I'm giving the edge to MCU team.
Team Arrowverse vs Team MCU
It isn't cannon with the show... He hasn't proved on the show he knows he can do anything yet... Just because they are capitalizing on the show with a comic doesn't mean the show and book concurrent with each other.... The arrow book has notta to do with the actual show... gives back story sometimes but that's about it...
http://arrow.wikia.com/wiki/The_Flash:_Season_Zero
It's canon. Get over it.
http://arrow.wikia.com/wiki/Arrow:_Season_2.5
Arrow comic is also canon to Arrowverse
@allstarsuperman: Here's your nickel :P
Going with Arrow team, but that could change after AoU, which btw, i'm seeing today!! (well, technically today, it's midnight right now in Aus and I see it at 8:30 PM)
MCU WRECK
@rbt: How are they supposed to beat Tony?
MCU WRECK
@rbt: How are they supposed to beat Tony?
Barry should be able to take him down. Tony's faceplate can easily be opened.
With a day prep. I see Oliver bringing an EMP arrow. Don't think Tony's suit are EMP proof in MCU.
@rbt: It was removed by Thor, someone who possesses strength miles above anyone here. No one on the Arrow team is going to remove it at all, let alone easily.
It's getting to the point now with Cap having four movies to draw from, where he has more impressive looking feats than Slade. Cap was a straight beast in AoU and at this point as much as I hate to admit it, Cap has the edge until Slade returns and picks up more feats which is likely according to Manu Bennett, of course even if he does that's assuming he gets his enhanced status back.
EDIT: After doing a quick google search on a possible Deathstroke return it is actually seeming unlikely, Bennett was displeased with the portrayal of the character in the show, and with the plans for a suicide squad movie, it seems as though those characters are unlikely to be seen on TV which is well unfortunate in my opinion.
@rbt: It was removed by Thor, someone who possesses strength miles above anyone here. No one on the Arrow team is going to remove it at all, let alone easily.
My bad. I thought it was removed by Cap.
Team MCU
@rbt: All good man
- Hawkeye vs Arrow = Arrow
- Black Widow vs Black Canary = Black Widow
- Grant Ward vs Arsenal = Ward
- Melinda May vs Huntress = May
- Captain America vs Deathstroke = Cap
- Iron Man vs Flash = Iron Man
Team MCU wins this fairly easily.
@matthewparker: Flash isn't in Arrow, so MCU I guess
But two guys with mirakuru makes it tough
But I still say MCU
Hawkeye vs Green Arrow
Black Widow vs Canary
Grant Ward vs Red Arrow
Melinda May vs Huntress
Captain America vs Deathstroke
Iron Man vs The Flash
DIGGLE, DIGGLE, DIGGLE...
Ironman solos
Ironman solos if it's a team brawl. Flight and his durability and firepower make it a sinch honestly. And Barry gets tagged by people humans like Oliver sooo a genius like Stark it's gonna be no contest to be honest.
Barry could easily solo, creating a vortex that can suck the oxygen from everyone and land an infinite mass punch (even though the show limits it so 1/20 of it)
Barry could easily solo, creating a vortex that can suck the oxygen from everyone and land an infinite mass punch (even though the show limits it so 1/20 of it)
What would sucking the oxygen from Iron Man do? Also Barry used his IMP he almost knocked himself out IIRC and Girder doesn't have the durability feats Iron Man has nor the air maneuverability.
RDJ solos
@uugieboogie: iron man acc does solo, but I was wondering if there was the possibility to phase through his suit, I was also wondering if Barry didn't have PIS on and could outmaneuver tony
Arrow beats hawkeye
Canary beats widow
May beats huntress
Roy w/mirakuru beats ward
Roy without mirakuru is a toss up
Death stroke beats cap
Ironman beats the flash in most circumstances
Barry could easily solo, creating a vortex that can suck the oxygen from everyone and land an infinite mass punch (even though the show limits it so 1/20 of it)
What would sucking the oxygen from Iron Man do? Also Barry used his IMP he almost knocked himself out IIRC and Girder doesn't have the durability feats Iron Man has nor the air maneuverability.
RDJ solos
im saying if he fully used the IMP in the show , he can kill tony instantly
@uugieboogie: iron man acc does solo, but I was wondering if there was the possibility to phase through his suit, I was also wondering if Barry didn't have PIS on and could outmaneuver tony
Arrow beats hawkeye
Canary beats widow
May beats huntress
Roy w/mirakuru beats ward
Roy without mirakuru is a toss up
Death stroke beats cap
Ironman beats the flash in most circumstances
Op doesn't say Roy has Mirakuru. And an argument can be made why Deathdstroke isn't beating Cap. But all that is irrelevant because RDJ indeed does solo like you agreed
@uugieboogie: but would the flash phasing through IM's suit work, because he has shown the ability to alter his density and pass through objects when he left that bomb attached to that truck
Barry could easily solo, creating a vortex that can suck the oxygen from everyone and land an infinite mass punch (even though the show limits it so 1/20 of it)
What would sucking the oxygen from Iron Man do? Also Barry used his IMP he almost knocked himself out IIRC and Girder doesn't have the durability feats Iron Man has nor the air maneuverability.
RDJ solos
im saying if he fully used the IMP in the show , he can kill tony instantly
The imp he used in the show on Girder didn't have damage output to put Iron Man down. His suit tanks missiles and can take quite a few hits from MCU Thor who striking power is far above what Flash's IMP has shown. He'll have trouble tagging Barry but looking at how Barry consistently gets tagged by slower people in the show Iron Man will put him down eventually. I think you getting the tv IMP confused with comics IMP.
@uugieboogie: but would the flash phasing through IM's suit work, because he has shown the ability to alter his density and pass through objects when he left that bomb attached to that truck
I don't see why they wouldn't but Flash isn't phasing through his suit which could potentially kill Tony. And you remember which episode he did the phasing ability?
@uugieboogie: you have to remember barry doesn't even know his full power , the show depicts the first 9 months of his power and he doesn't even know what the speed force is yet
@uugieboogie: it was the trickster episode, I don't remember the number, I remember he had to phase through a truck and left the bomb attacked to it, I was thinking it could be an attack he could use against tony if he doesn't act like a complete idiot
@redatom1234: This is in character, so there's no way Barry is going to think about phasing before Tony takes him out.
Green Arrow vs Hawkeye = Green Arrow
Black Widow vs Black Canary = Black Widow
Grant Ward vs Arsenal = Arsenal
Melinda May vs Huntress = Melinda May
Captain America vs Deathstroke = Could go either way.
Iron Man vs The Flash = Iron man easily. CW flash is a jobber by trade.
@birdman400: So what makes you think he can do an IMP strong enough to take out Iron Man? You're making a baseless assumption. You have to realize this is a TV version and not a comic version. He may not even get as strong as his comic version and you can't assume he will be.
@mrmxyzptlk: How's Arsenal beating Ward?
@uugieboogie: im not making an assumption , an IMP is enough power to hit Tony's core , well that's a logical assumption, Barry can vibrate his arms at a very high speed right? if he gets close enough to him is it possible to vibrate tony parts off of him?
@uugieboogie: Assuming Mirakuru.
I'm only going to focus on the Clint vs Ollie debate here (if you want to see anything on what I think of Slade vs Steve then I'm actually doing a CAV on that very fight so check it out votes are always welcome).
I'm going to go out and say that Clint is defiantly the better marksman but he won't win. Oliver is more than sufficient to fire his arrows on target but the difference between the 2 is Oliver is a better combatant. Not just h2h with a bow Ollie has proven he uses it with incredible speed during combat making him more suite to a combat scenario than Hawkeye. He is also to fast for Flint to hit, Oliver has dodged arrows fire at him from behind without looking as well as effortlessly block arrows all the time. Ollie can use his superior combat skills to get closer where he really has an advantage and simply overwhelm Hawk. He's not the better marksman but he's more skilled with the combat application of the bow, faster, and a far superior h2h fighter.
@birdman400: When has Barry ever done that? You do realize these are current in character versions. In character Barry isn't going to do something that will kill a person and currently the best "IMP" we've seen IIRC was use against Girder and the damage output was not enough to put Iron Man down who took multiple hits from Thor (without completely being destroyed) and MCU Thor has better striking feats than that "IMP" that almost knocked Barry himself out. Therefore you are making an assumption and Flash has the shown the power to do a powerful IMP. You are getting these confused with comic versions. CW Flash is not better Iron Man or any other high their for that matter.
@uugieboogie: lets wait , I mean CW flash is finally gonna learn about the speed force and probably learn hand-to-hand combat from Jay Garrick , but yea I guess CW Flash would put up a decent fight against Iron Man
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