#1 Edited by Thedarklordpandamonium (4825 posts) - - Show Bio

Enough of the 'street-level' tournaments with their 'scenarios' and their 'environmental factors' and their 'points' and their 'perks'.

It's time to remind the world just how powerful fictional characters are.

So without further ado, I present to you...

TDLP's Powerhouse Tournament!

Limitations

Team Size: 4 characters if going Han Solo, 2 characters if teaming up with another Viner.

Sources: I don't care, but they have to have a reasonable amount of feats. Not a one shot wonders or featless characters with assumed feats. Can be from fanfiction as long as they fit and the fanfiction is popular. Can have the same character; two users can both have Silver Surfer. If you have to rely on character statements, please make sure those character statements are from a RELIABLE SOURCE and NOT hyperbole. Similarly inside the debate don't discredit feats just for the sake of discrediting them.

Strength: Has to have upper limit (cannot be infinite, Sun Wukong style. Hulk is perfectly fine, because he takes time to get to an increase.)

Speed: Has to be slower than teleportation in combat speed and less than attosecond in reaction speed, and cannot give the user any additional abilities due to speed. Excessive Speedblitzing is also not allowed. No Flashes, they lead to flamewars of infinite IMPs in a picosecond.

Gen. Durability: There are three kinds of attacks as far as I'm concerned, those that damage the physical body or P, those that damage the mind/soul or T, and those of magical/mystical origin or M. Your character has to be susceptible to at least 2/3 of P, T, or M. If any of these do not exist in the universe your character is from, they only have to be susceptible to at least 1/2 or 1/1.

P durability: Cannot exceed multiple supernovae in durability if they are susceptible to it, if not must follow Gen rule

T durability: Cannot exceed multi-solar-system-controlling durability if they are susceptible to it, if not must follow Gen rul

M durability: Cannot exceed Skyfather-level magic durability if they are susceptible to it, if not must follow Gen rule

Gen. Attacks: No OHKO attacks; for example you cannot use a T attack on a character whose universe does not contain T, so on and so forth. However you could use an M attack on Superman. Your character cannot possess more than 2/3 of these types of attacks; if one does not exist in your character's universe you can have the other 2 types of attacks

P attacks: Cannot exceed the output of a supernova in power. Exercise your best judgment here.

T attacks: Must be less than solar-system-controlling.

M attacks: Must be less than the power of Odin.

No reality/time warping...of any kind! Not even a Cosmic Ring!

Duplicates are allowed, but not on the same team.

No omni-anythings.

Assorted Abilities: Please, just don't be OP. If you sneak in a char that can do something like speedstealing, etc, I will have to ban that character and decrease your team size. Anyone with technopathy cannot use it, etc.

No excessive amounts of Lantern Crops crap. I seriously do not want to see a debate on whether or not Hulk is angry or just misunderstood, I just don't.

NO MORALS! NO CHARACTER! NOTHING!!! But if 'no morals' would put your character over the top, your character has morals. :(

Rule of Thumb #1: Make sure half of your team can beat the other half.

Rule of Thumb #2: No characters over the power level of say Odin, Galactus, etc.

Prep Limitations:

-Cannot bring in items already owned

-Must be realistic; i.e. Hank Pym could not create Ultron in an hour

-Cannot create infinite anythings

-Cannot exceed the limits already in place

-Cannot be used to increase the powers of your team (i.e. taking Amazo and copying the powers of a ton of scrubs)

If you think any of these limits are imbalanced...don't be afraid to speak up! :o

List of Teams

Approved: 16

@betatesthighlander1:

1) Lady Death, Classic from the later parts of the series

2) Pre-AvX Magneto

3) Warrior Madness Thor w/Power Gem

4) KC Supes

@diredrill:

Skrulluminati

Super Special Awesome Absorbing Man

Ultron (Techno-Organic)

Amazo

@kidman560:

1) Captain Britain king of the other world

2) Ghost Rider Zarathos

3) Silver Surfer

4) Colossonaut

@cadencev2:

WBH

Ghost Rider Daniel Ketch (Last Stand)

Ghost Rider Johnny Blaze (Zarathos)

War Hulk

@xxgin:

1) Thanos

2) Alan Scott

3) Ult. Reed Richards

4) Darkseid

@the_legendary_supersaiyan_hulk

Super Perfect Special Awesome Cell DBZM

Gast Carholh DBZM

Heavenly King Sani (Toriko)

South Supreme Kai DBZM

@joeagentofhand1

Mordru Prince of Darkness

Obsidian

Alan Scott

Jean Loring Eclipso

@dccomicsrule2011:

Eternal Sailor Moon

Hal Jordan pre-52

Sailor Galaxia

Palpatine w/superweapons

@darkraiden:

Blackheart

Amazo

Thanos

Aptom

@funsiized:

Yoshino-Psyren Amped

Grana-Psyren Amped

Itsuki Minami- EoS with Regalia

Eragon w/ ALL the Eldunari.

@sovereign91001:

Quasar

Binary

Doctor Fate (Hector Hall)

Green Phoenix (Jean Grey)

@nighthunder:

1) SS3 Goku

2) Kyle Rayner

3) Silver Surfer

4) Thanos

@thedarklordpandamonium

1) Kid Amazo, base powers

2) Kyle Rayner non-CoF

3) Super Gogeta?

4) Kid Omega (2nd mutation, Endsong)

@jokergeist:

1-3) Powerpuff Girls

4) Rainbowdash

@skit:

Index

Funny Valentine

Aries Shion

Aries Mu

@neonpheonix:

1. Black Adam

2. General Zod

3. Doomsday

4.Martian Manhunter

@neongamewave:

Shinnok with Amulet/Staff (Mortal Kombat)

G Rugal (Capcom Vs SNK 2)

Omega or The Doctor (Dr Who)

Aizen (Bleach)

#2 Posted by Thedarklordpandamonium (4825 posts) - - Show Bio

Post reserved.

#3 Posted by Betatesthighlander1 (7462 posts) - - Show Bio
#4 Posted by XxGin (1350 posts) - - Show Bio
#5 Posted by Thedarklordpandamonium (4825 posts) - - Show Bio
#6 Edited by Betatesthighlander1 (7462 posts) - - Show Bio

@thedarklordpandamonium:

I'm thinking (and tell me is their OP)

Lady Death (classic, from the later parts of the series)

Classiic Magneto

Warrior Madness Thor (W/ Power Gem)

and fourth currently undecided

#7 Posted by Betatesthighlander1 (7462 posts) - - Show Bio
#8 Posted by Skit (2366 posts) - - Show Bio
#9 Posted by Thedarklordpandamonium (4825 posts) - - Show Bio

@thedarklordpandamonium:

I'm thinking (and tell me is their OP)

Lady Death (classic, from the later parts of the series)

Classiic Magneto

Warrior Madness Thor (W/ Power Gem)

and fourth currently undecided

1) Who?

2) Didn't Classic Magneto kinda, y'know, suck?

3) Sure

4) KC Superman is OK, no Flashes are allowed.

@skit said:

@thedarklordpandamonium: Could you save me a spot please.

Spot saved.

#10 Posted by Betatesthighlander1 (7462 posts) - - Show Bio
#11 Edited by Thedarklordpandamonium (4825 posts) - - Show Bio

@betatesthighlander1:

1) Her powers/abilities section is sorely lacking. But until someone contests her she's fine.

2) Uh...I can't think of any Magneto who would really be outside the limitations of this tourney, so sure.

3) Yeah

4) Cool

Welcome.

#12 Posted by Betatesthighlander1 (7462 posts) - - Show Bio
#13 Posted by Betatesthighlander1 (7462 posts) - - Show Bio
#14 Edited by DireDrill (2447 posts) - - Show Bio

Skrulluminati

Absorbing Man

Ultron (Techno-Organic)

Amazo

#15 Posted by Thedarklordpandamonium (4825 posts) - - Show Bio
#16 Posted by kidman560 (7577 posts) - - Show Bio

Ok i really want in on this

Captain Britain (king of the Other World)

Ghost Rider (hell hes probably breaking the rules also)

Silver Surfer (hes probably pushing the limits)

Juggernaut Colossus

if one or two are not allowed then

1. Rogue

2. spider man (with Enigma force)

#17 Posted by Betatesthighlander1 (7462 posts) - - Show Bio

@diredrill: sorry, who's that first one on your team?

#18 Posted by DireDrill (2447 posts) - - Show Bio

@betatesthighlander1: Skrulluminati, the unnamed Super Skrull containing the combined powers of the Illuminati.

#19 Posted by Betatesthighlander1 (7462 posts) - - Show Bio
#20 Posted by Thedarklordpandamonium (4825 posts) - - Show Bio

Ok i really want in on this

Captain Britain (king of the Other World)

Ghost Rider (hell hes probably breaking the rules also)

Silver Surfer (hes probably pushing the limits)

Juggernaut Colossus

if one or two are not allowed then

1. Rogue

2. spider man (with Enigma force)

1) Err is that an amped version of Captain Britain or just regular Captain Britain?

2) Depends...Johnny Blaze or Zarathos? If Zarathos, maybe not.

3) Errrrr...hrmm...the words 'supernova' and 'Silver Surfer' are tossed around quite a bit together, but until someone brings up something that makes him outside the limits he's good.

4) Who? Is this either or, or are you talking about Colossonaut?

1. Sure

2. What's the Enigma force?

#21 Posted by DireDrill (2447 posts) - - Show Bio

@betatesthighlander1: Seriously? Super Skrull with Illuminati powers obviously would have appeared in either the Illuminati/Secret Invasion.

#22 Edited by Betatesthighlander1 (7462 posts) - - Show Bio

@diredrill said:

@betatesthighlander1: Seriously? Super Skrull with Illuminati powers obviously would have appeared in either the Illuminati/Secret Invasion.

okay

could you give me issue numbers?

because official sources don't recognize that name

does he have another that he goes by?

#23 Edited by kidman560 (7577 posts) - - Show Bio

@kidman560 said:

Ok i really want in on this

Captain Britain (king of the Other World)

Ghost Rider (hell hes probably breaking the rules also)

Silver Surfer (hes probably pushing the limits)

Juggernaut Colossus

if one or two are not allowed then

1. Rogue

2. spider man (with Enigma force)

1) Err is that an amped version of Captain Britain or just regular Captain Britain?

2) Depends...Johnny Blaze or Zarathos? If Zarathos, maybe not.

3) Errrrr...hrmm...the words 'supernova' and 'Silver Surfer' are tossed around quite a bit together, but until someone brings up something that makes him outside the limits he's good.

4) Who? Is this either or, or are you talking about Colossonaut?

1. Sure

2. What's the Enigma force?

1. Very Much so Amped up CB (if not go reg im cool either way but i saw a amped up thor so i assumed it was ok)

2. uhh well id prefer zarathros but Jhonny Blaze is cool

3. Keep SS untill someone says no

4. Colossonaut

1a. cool

2a. the enigma force made spider man is most powerful im not exactly sure what it does

#24 Edited by Thedarklordpandamonium (4825 posts) - - Show Bio
#25 Posted by DireDrill (2447 posts) - - Show Bio

@betatesthighlander1: Skrulluminati was never named and is in fact a fan name given to him but he may also be called Skrull Bolt. He is featured most prominently in the Illuminati comic that occurred pre-Secret Invasion. I am not your library, look it up.

#26 Posted by DireDrill (2447 posts) - - Show Bio
#27 Posted by Pokergeist (22351 posts) - - Show Bio

@thedarklordpandamonium: Lets see, by the rules it seems I could use....

Divine Spawn

World Breaker Hulk

Ahriman of the Thousand Sons (However you said no Time Warping, does this mean people who can increase their Reaction time with powers, like say Darth Sidious or Luke Skywalker with the Force?)

Ghost Rider Zarathos

#28 Posted by Pokergeist (22351 posts) - - Show Bio

@diredrill: He can be harmed by anything Holy (Kryptonite), Soul attacks on the Host, or Powerful Magics. Thats 3 things.

#29 Edited by kidman560 (7577 posts) - - Show Bio

@thedarklordpandamonium: Lets see, by the rules it seems I could use....

Divine Spawn

World Breaker Hulk

Ahriman of the Thousand Sons (However you said no Time Warping, does this mean people who can increase their Reaction time with powers, like say Darth Sidious or Luke Skywalker with the Force?)

Ghost Rider Zarathos

dude i already claimed zarathos GR

#30 Edited by Thedarklordpandamonium (4825 posts) - - Show Bio

@cadencev2 said:

@diredrill: He can be harmed by anything Holy (Kryptonite), Soul attacks on the Host, or Powerful Magics. Thats 3 things.

That's 2/3, actually. But good 'nuff.

1) Divine Spawn...erm...which Spawn is this?

2) Fine.

3) Time warping as in...well, cannot warp time. Darth Sidious increasing his reaction time is okay, Zoom is not.

4) Cool

@kidman560: The OP makes it clear you can have multiples of characters.

#31 Edited by kidman560 (7577 posts) - - Show Bio
#32 Edited by XxGin (1350 posts) - - Show Bio
#33 Posted by Pokergeist (22351 posts) - - Show Bio

@thedarklordpandamonium: Thats the thing The Psy Power Warp Time warps the time reaction of the person using it and increases their own speed to near Light Speed.

Remember your rules are funky for 40K where Warp is the power of Magic and Psykers.

#34 Posted by Pokergeist (22351 posts) - - Show Bio

@kidman560: LOL Take him. He sucks any way.

I will take Daniel Ketch from Last Stand.

#35 Posted by Thedarklordpandamonium (4825 posts) - - Show Bio

@kidman560: LOL Take him. He sucks any way.

I will take Daniel Ketch from Last Stand.

You can have multiples.

@thedarklordpandamonium: Thats the thing The Psy Power Warp Time warps the time reaction of the person using it and increases their own speed to near Light Speed.

Remember your rules are funky for 40K where Warp is the power of Magic and Psykers.

Dammit. Bleh...exercise your best judgment.

#36 Posted by OmgOmgWtfWtf (6954 posts) - - Show Bio

@thedarklordpandamonium

1. The Kishin, Asura (Soul Eater)

2. The Destroyer (Claymore), with infected Riful, Dauf and Beth.

3. Jackie Estacado (The Darkness)

4. To be determined.

#37 Posted by Thedarklordpandamonium (4825 posts) - - Show Bio

@thedarklordpandamonium

1. The Kishin, Asura (Soul Eater)

2. The Destroyer (Claymore), with infected Riful, Dauf and Beth.

3. Jackie Estacado (The Darkness)

4. To be determined.

1) Errrrrrrrrrrrrrm...Is he vulnerable to physical attacks or magical attacks?

2) Beth isn't really under the Destroyer's control is she?

3) Hm, if you're sure.

#38 Edited by OmgOmgWtfWtf (6954 posts) - - Show Bio

@thedarklordpandamonium:

Conventional magic doesn't really exist in the Soul Eater verse, but he is susceptible to soul attacks. He was defeated the first time by having his skin ripped off by Lord Death and being stuffed into said skin, but conventional physical attacks don't seem to faze him.

Beth was infected by the Destroyer's rod. So I assume she was under its influence. The Destroyer doesn't really control its victims given it has no mind of its own. It turns people into rampaging monsters :)

#39 Posted by Pokergeist (22351 posts) - - Show Bio

@thedarklordpandamonium:

OK, I made up my mind then.

Spawn (Second Metamorphosis)

Ghost Rider Daniel Ketch (Last Stand)

Ghost Rider Johnny Blaze (Zarathos)

Man Thing

Oh snap!

#40 Posted by Thedarklordpandamonium (4825 posts) - - Show Bio
#41 Edited by Pokergeist (22351 posts) - - Show Bio
#42 Posted by Thedarklordpandamonium (4825 posts) - - Show Bio
#43 Posted by The_Legendary_SuperSaiyan_Hulk (9549 posts) - - Show Bio

My team:

Zen Buu(DBM)

Gast Carcolh(DBM)

The top two will be my team if someone would like to team up, I need someone with telepaths lol.

Knocking Master Jirou(Toriko)

Galbatorix(With Eldunari)

Online
#44 Posted by Funsiized (3586 posts) - - Show Bio
#45 Posted by The_Legendary_SuperSaiyan_Hulk (9549 posts) - - Show Bio

@funsiized: You should choose telepaths and team up with me~

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#46 Posted by Thedarklordpandamonium (4825 posts) - - Show Bio

My team:

Zen Buu(DBM)

Gast Carcolh(DBM)

The top two will be my team if someone would like to team up, I need someone with telepaths lol.

Knocking Master Jirou(Toriko)

Galbatorix(With Eldunari)

ofc you choose DBZM chars

alright, have fun w/it!

@funsiized: I AIN'T GONNA

#47 Posted by joeagentofhand1 (4362 posts) - - Show Bio
#48 Posted by The_Legendary_SuperSaiyan_Hulk (9549 posts) - - Show Bio
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#49 Posted by XxGin (1350 posts) - - Show Bio

@thedarklordpandamonium:

Ace tourney! Lemmie in

I pick..

Ultimate Reed Richards

Thanos (if not allowed add Surfer)

Darksied (if not allowed add Juggernaut 8th day)

Dr Strange should be allowed his magic never threatened the LT. LT was just testing him . The LT was never using his full power. If you really can't add Strange.. add Allan Scott or Fate

#50 Posted by Thedarklordpandamonium (4825 posts) - - Show Bio