Two panthers vs Two batmen
Both have standard Gear. (T'challa is in his Hudlin run stuff)
Fight takes place in NYC. No blood lust. Morals on. No prep. Win is by KO. Both teams at peak. Who takes it and why?
T'challa and Shuri vs Bruce and Dick
Either way. Panther could defeat BatMan or Dick individually, but in my opinion, Shuri is the weaklink. It depends on who defeats who first.
I still see a stalemate.
@Crom-Cruach: Oh i agree.
If that is true then it means T'Challa here takes the physical superiority to Bruce. But then again, there are plenty of amazing Bruce stories where that didn't stop him from pulling a victory even against some pretty devious opponents. That said, T'Challa is one dude few in his power class can match.
Based on my knowledge I'd say stalemate. But that's because I have a lot of respect for everything I've seen T'Challa do and not enough knowledge on Shuri.
" cause Panther is my fav hero."I am honestly pissed off Deadpool got a movie but T'Challa didn't...
" @Crom-Cruach: Me too. I don't know when DP got so popular. "I think it was after the Daniel Way run or something. I honestly don't understand why people like DP. When written seriously, he's nothing new or interesting. Just another assassin/merc with a tragic past they propped up by having him beat wolverine. In his current run he's nothing but an annoying waste of space and resources when far better characters are languishing in obscurity.
@Nelomaxwell said:
" They were talking about a Panther movie for mad long. "Really? I'd pay to see that. A well done Black Panther movie would be awesome.
" @Nelomaxwell said:QF-freaking-T. Well said on both counts." @Crom-Cruach: Me too. I don't know when DP got so popular. "I think it was after the Daniel Way run or something. I honestly don't understand why people like DP. When written seriously, he's nothing new or interesting. Just another assassin/merc with a tragic past they propped up by having him beat wolverine. In his current run he's nothing but an annoying waste of space and resources when far better characters are languishing in obscurity.
@Nelomaxwell said:" They were talking about a Panther movie for mad long. "Really? I'd pay to see that. A well done Black Panther movie would be awesome. "
" @Silver2467: You know what's funny people are like so sure who should play the panther or at least the top two and still no one has done anything in relation to a movie and they shafted the show. "I think this just illustrates one of the big problem with the U.S Comic industry, the hypocrisy.
" @Nelomaxwell said:Sad but true." @Silver2467: You know what's funny people are like so sure who should play the panther or at least the top two and still no one has done anything in relation to a movie and they shafted the show. "I think this just illustrates one of the big problem with the U.S Comic industry, the hypocrisy. "
" However, Shuri doesn't come close to Dick, at all. "how good is she actually? What are her best feats? I don't know anything about her beyond the bare minimum. I know T'Challa enough to know he's clearly in Bruce's league. But Shuri is a real blind spot for me.
" @spidey 15: It actually depends on the match-ups. I'm more inclined to go with Bruce and Dick, since Shuri is the weakest link. "I think team stands a good chance due to T'Challa.
Since he has superhuman stats and he is equally skilled to Batman, he should be able to beat either Dick or Bruce alone. Maybe Shuri, is the weakest link here, but she should be able to hold her own, until BP beat his opponent.
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Now honestly, while i want to say stalemate....i think the Batmen will take it. The obvious match-ups are Bruce vs T'Challa and Shuri vs Dick. Mostly b/c if you put them 2gether then Dick and Shuri are the obvious subordinates (based on interplay between characters, i mean look at how T'Challa was calling the shots even during her "reign" while fighting the Doomwar) T'Challa (now correct me but i think the Hudlin run was the one where he got amped right??? If not then someone point me the right way, i'm just gonna use Doomwar T'Challa 4 the peak in this argument, n peak human 4 the lows). T'Challa is one of the few men that i'm positive it's a coin toss when he faces Bruce in the ring, with or w/o all the gadgets. It's the kind of fight that you'd make a mint off in pay-per-view. Both are martial arts masters, and master strategists. Honestly i'd b more interested in a full blown war between them w/ access to all their influence..but w/ what we have i see them matching each other. Though if it's T'Challa w/ the enhanced strength and endurance n such from that anonymous Panther deity, then i'd give him the edge. The problem is Shuri.....i just don't see her as being able to take out Dick. I'm sry but i'd give him the solid majority. An Dick, especially considering the level of experience he and Bruce have working in tandem, would be just the edge that Bruce needs ta take out T'Challa. I think Dick would fall in the end, but it would be enough for them to clinch a victory. So i'll give the Bats...7/10.
" @Emerald_General_Jai: T'Challa got amped in volume four, after Maberry took over the book. "Then def Bruce n Dick.
"Now honestly, while i want to say stalemate....i think the Batmen will take it. The obvious match-ups are Bruce vs T'Challa and Shuri vs Dick. Mostly b/c if you put them 2gether then Dick and Shuri are the obvious subordinates (based on interplay between characters, i mean look at how T'Challa was calling the shots even during her "reign" while fighting the Doomwar) T'Challa (now correct me but i think the Hudlin run was the one where he got amped right??? If not then someone point me the right way, i'm just gonna use Doomwar T'Challa 4 the peak in this argument, n peak human 4 the lows). T'Challa is one of the few men that i'm positive it's a coin toss when he faces Bruce in the ring, with or w/o all the gadgets. It's the kind of fight that you'd make a mint off in pay-per-view. Both are martial arts masters, and master strategists. Honestly i'd b more interested in a full blown war between them w/ access to all their influence..but w/ what we have i see them matching each other. Though if it's T'Challa w/ the enhanced strength and endurance n such from that anonymous Panther deity, then i'd give him the edge. The problem is Shuri.....i just don't see her as being able to take out Dick. I'm sry but i'd give him the solid majority. An Dick, especially considering the level of experience he and Bruce have working in tandem, would be just the edge that Bruce needs ta take out T'Challa. I think Dick would fall in the end, but it would be enough for them to clinch a victory. So i'll give the Bats...7/10. "
So you're basically saying that even if T'Challa might be able to take out Bruce, that you think Dick would most likely be able to take out Shuri faster than T'Challa can take out Bruce?
This would of course allow the Bats to double team Panther ... that's pretty reasonable. Nice call.
I agree that Panther should take out Batman and Dick should take out Shuri ... so I guess it really does depend on who can take out who the fastest in the end.
I think Dick has the experience and of course a larger library of feats over Shuri ... but then again, aren't Shuri's physical stats over Dick's? Like enhanced strength, senses, etc.
If so it could make up the difference and she could "maybe" hold her own longer than one might think. Her only real fault for lack of feats is being a newer character ... not necessarily incapable.
Good matchup either way. Definitely a very even fight.
Dick took down all the main Batman rouges all by himself, all at the same time, while under the effect of scarecrows gas, when he was Pre-Batman. Bruce is well...he's BATMAN!
The 2 Batman win here.
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