Taskmaster Vs William Cobb

VS

• Cobb is sent to Kill Taskmaster
• Taskmaster has no knowledge of Cobb
• Standard Gear for both
• Battle takes place on rooftop at night
• Current Versions of both
• Find ends with Death or Incap
• Who Wins??

Tony

Taskmaster stomps him. As much as I like Cobb, he got taken down by a Batman who had spent days deprived of sleep and food IIRC. Taskmaster being roughly Batman's equal in terms of skill and arguably superior in some stats shouldn't have much of a problem when functioning at 100%.

i shall go with TM for he can wreck havok on WC. WC won't be able to do much against him

@strider92: +1

Taskmaster could've KO him and win the match but since the rules don't allow that

Taskmaster wouldn't be able to kill William Cobb due to his healing factor and incapicitating him is hard as well

@dcandmarvel: he could easily just web incap tbh and decap shouldn't be a problem for task

Tony.

bump

Taskmaster, easily.

Taskmaster pawns him

Taskmaster 10/10

Nightwing was able to take out a Talon with a stab to the brain and, although that Talon may not have been as skilled as Cobb, Nightwing isn't as skilled as Taskmaster.

Tony kicks his @ss

bump

Taskmaster has too much skill. He is violently underrated.

He also uses weapons. Cutting Cobbs head off would be easy.

Tony.

Jmarshmallow

Cobb blocked 2 nerve strike attempts one after another from Bruce and if memory serves Batman was stating that Cobb was fast and that manifested itself when he landed a few good strikes and based on how the fight went, Cobb would've won. Bear in mind his regenerative factor is instaneos and very effective under these circumstances. This is a tight spot for Tasmaster and Cobb is quite a challenge.

As much as I like Taskmaster I think he loses this fight.

Tony and it isn't all that close.

Taskmaster with ease.

Tony

Wow. Not often that you get universal consensus on a fight. Good to see Taskmaster be given the win too, he's a cool villain.

Taskmaster handily. Despite Nightwing saying even at 100% he doubt he could have beaten Cobb, Cobb still lost due to the environment and he goes and gets decimated by a weakened Bruce. Taskmaster has the skill to be around Batman's level and he's got the necessary tools to win.

Tony decapitates him

So we basically all agree that Tasky wins right? Right.

@god_spawn said:

The main issue is both Batman and Nightwing beat him by exploiting his vulnerability to cold temperatures (it affects Talons' healing factor drastically). Taskmaster has no knowledge on him, how would he find out his weakness to cold. The first time Batman and him fought, Cobb was dominant and the second time Batman defeated him when they were in a cold place. How come people come to that decision, just being "handicapped" doesn't justify the fact that Bruce would still fail to take Cobb down without foreknowlege. So the question is, how can Taskmaster take him down and that's a major problem Tony has to deal with and probably can't overcome respectively. The claim that Tony beats him isn't correct nor is there anything about it indicating its validity.

Taskmaster's photographic reflexes won't be helpful. On top of healing factor as Cobb's major advantage, he has enhanced speed (to the point Bruce was impressed), enhanced strength (Bruce thought he was on Venom), enhanced durability, advanced fighting skills (blocked two nerve strikes), throwing skills and carries some knives and blades.

As far as his photographic reflexes not being helpful, he still has his amassed skills to back him up. He's also quite fast. Fast enough that during a brief fight, Venom couldn't touch him, and those watching noted that Tony's speed was actually too much for Venom in terms of speed, someone who fights with Spiderman on the regular. He is able to take on Captain America on par, even when being shot at by Winter Soldier.

Taskmaster

@jacthripper:

As far as his photographic reflexes not being helpful, he still has his amassed skills to back him up. He's also quite fast. Fast enough that during a brief fight, Venom couldn't touch him, and those watching noted that Tony's speed was actually too much for Venom in terms of speed, someone who fights with Spiderman on the regular. He is able to take on Captain America on par, even when being shot at by Winter Soldier.

I am fully aware that Tony has copied different martial arts styles and is also extremely skilled, he belongs to the top list. However that still doesn't provide a satisfactory answer to how (without knowing Cobb's power-set in advance) he beats Cobb. Taskmaster is a formidable combatant but he lacks the sufficient damage output to be a well-suited candidate for a fight against someone who possesses an exceedingly high healing factor.

Taskmaster handily. At one moment Dick is stating that he can never defeat Cobb and at the other, a weakened Batman is stomping him with ease. Taskmaster would have almost no problems against Cobb.

And what stops Tasky from blitzing him and cutting off his head?

Tasky wins easily.

@brucerogers:

And what stops Tasky from blitzing him and cutting off his head?

1. It's not in-character for Tony.
2. He has no knowledge on Cobb and his healing factor.
3. Cobb has enhanced speed, Bruce was impressed by it. And factually speaking, Bruce landed one hit and he stabbed Bruce 2x, parried his attacks 2x and then kicked him through the reinforced glass. Close quarter combat decreases dramatically the possibility that Tony wins.

People, stop being stupid.

Bruce overpowering a character created solely for being physically superior to him was just stupid ass bad writing. That should be obvious. Do you actually use the showing where Batman one shots Killer Croc? No, that's ridiculous as well. A peak human just doesn't beat a meta-human by overpowering them, that is nonsense.

As for the battle, I don't see why Tony stomps.....even if he wins. Tony craps himself over Moon Knights durability.........he'd probably kill himself before having to face the best Talon.

@nathaniel_adam:

It's not in-character for Tony.

Except it totally is and I am not talking about his one-time double speed feat either. He has frequently blitz attacked his opponents using moves copied from notoriously fast and agile characters like Spider-man ,Daredevil etc. There is no reason to believe he will not use them here.

He has no knowledge on Cobb and his healing factor.

Yeah and? He always has that sword of his which is part of his standard gear and which he frequently uses in melee combat. And besides, do you really need prior knowledge on your opponent to figure out that decapitation is probably a surefire way to kill them?

Cobb has enhanced speed, Bruce was impressed by it. And factually speaking, Bruce landed one hit and he stabbed Bruce 2x, parried his attacks 2x and then kicked him through the reinforced glass. Close quarter combat decreases dramatically the possibility that Tony wins.

How enhanced are we talking here? and he getting twice as many hits on Bruce than vice versa is not really an indicator of anything. I basically don't see what cobb is bringing into the table which Tasky hasn't faced before.

Tony stomps

@brucerogers:

Except it totally is and I am not talking about his one-time double speed feat either. He has frequently blitz attacked his opponents using moves copied from notoriously fast and agile characters like Spider-man ,Daredevil etc. There is no reason to believe he will not use them here.

No, I'm saying that decapacitation isn't in-character. Blitzing alone doesn't do the trick.

Yeah and? He always has that sword of his which is part of his standard gear and which he frequently uses in melee combat. And besides, do you really need prior knowledge on your opponent to figure out that decapitation is probably a surefire way to kill them?

Then why he never goes for that tactic? I'm not talking outliers and against cannon fodder.

How enhanced are we talking here? and he getting twice as many hits on Bruce than vice versa is not really an indicator of anything. I basically don't see what cobb is bringing into the table which Tasky hasn't faced before.

It actually says about his speed and fighting skills due to Bruce's own impressive feats. Cobb tanks what Taskmaster dishes out but not the other way around.

@nathaniel_adam:

No, I'm saying that decapacitation isn't in-character. Blitzing alone doesn't do the trick.

Since when?. And Blitzing with weapons will be more than enough to do the trick.

Then why he never goes for that tactic? I'm not talking outliers and against cannon fodder.

Have you actually seen him fight? Barring the occasion where he is disarmed or weaponless, Tony always resorts to his weapons in order to finish his fights as quickly as possible. Whether it's a sword, a shield, arrows etc. And honestly, why are you bringing up fodder like it is supposed to make a difference? I mean, it's not like Cobb not being fodder is somehow magically going to make Tony not use his sword to behead or dismember him the first chance he gets.

For what it's worth, he uses his sword and other weapons against established fighters quite often. Whether he is successful or not is a different story.

It actually says about his speed and fighting skills due to Bruce's own impressive feats. Cobb tanks what Taskmaster dishes out but not the other way around.

Well since Tony is definitely in Bruce's tier of fighting skill and probably a bit faster, I am not fancying Cobb's chances here. Even if he cannot beat him to silly the way Bruce did, he has enough tools in his arsenal to finish the job.

Tony wrecks.

@brucerogers:

Since when?. And Blitzing with weapons will be more than enough to do the trick.

No, it won't.

Have you actually seen him fight? Barring the occasion where he is disarmed or weaponless, Tony always resorts to his weapons in order to finish his fights as quickly as possible. Whether it's a sword, a shield, arrows etc. And honestly, why are you bringing up fodder like it is supposed to make a difference? I mean, it's not like Cobb not being fodder is somehow magically going to make Tony not use his sword to behead or dismember him the first chance he gets.

For what it's worth, he uses his sword and other weapons against established fighters quite often. Whether he is successful or not is a different story.

It doesn't matter if he uses it or not, what matters is, Deadpool and Taskmaster have had a few run-ins. Tony knows well about Wade and is fully aware how good his healing factor is. How come he never has resorted to decapicitation while fighting Wade with his sword, let alone someone like Talon who Tony has no knowlede on?

Well since Tony is definitely in Bruce's tier of fighting skill and probably a bit faster, I am not fancying Cobb's chances here. Even if he cannot beat him to silly the way Bruce did, he has enough tools in his arsenal to finish the job.

I agree with almost everything you say here but Taskmaster can't put him down. However I don't know why you bring up the fight with Batman again considering cold temperature is fatal for the Talons and affects their regenerative capabilities negatively that's how Bruce won, it stands to reason that otherwise Cobb would've beaten him just like in their first fight where Cobb was clearly dominant. I don't dissuade you from sticking to your guns but the facts convey the opposite of your implications.

Taskmaster stomps hard.

I feel like Talon is underrated. People give him hate just because he got beat by half-dead Batman, but in my interpretation, the intention of that scene wasn't Scott Snyder saying "Look at how pathetic the character that I just created three issues ago is. Even Batman at his worst can beat him, therefore Batman at his best can curbstomp him and so can anybody on Batman's tier."

The point was more that, Batman's determination is so strong, he can still force himself to fight, and still beat his rival, even in the worst condition. Talon was meant to be a genuine foe to Batman even at his best, that's why they had a fight earlier where Talon totally won fair and square by kicking Bruce out a window, although Snyder threw in those two panels of Bruce holding back just to leave it open that Batman could win in a fair fight, but it was only two panels. And he's the one who threw Batman in the damn pit in the first place, after successfully ambushing him. Even Nightwing directly and clearly admitted that Cobb would beat him in combat even at his best, indicating Cobb must be in Batman's tier. Cobb was directly stated to be the very best Talon ever, while other Talons were too much for Red Hood to keep up with, soloing the Birds of Prey, and a bunch of other crazy stuff. The whole point of the maze scene hinges on the fact that Cobb was the very best Talon, and was the one capable of rivaling the goddamn Batman himself, not a fodder, and that Batman's determination is so strong, he can still force himself to win against his rival even in the worst condition.

TL;DR version: Unless you think Taskmaster fodderizes Batman, I don't think he fodderizes Talon. Talon is in Batman's tier as far as combat goes, he just lacks finer traits like true determination, and much wit as shown in his fight with Nightwing.

VS TASKMASTER: Cobb is stronger, likely faster, more experienced, he's nearly immortal and regenerates from most wounds, and he's much more focused and controlled than egotistical and ultimately-cowardly Tony. I can actually see him winning.

@nickzambuto: Get out of here with that common sense. Cobbs bones were obviously made of glass, thats why batman beat him.

I guess if Taskmaster can find a way to freeze Cobb, he has this one.

Taskmaster for the solid majority, but he'll have to work for it.

I agree with nick's appraisal of the situation as far as Cobb's depiction in relation to Bruce. This is happening all too often now. However, I still think Taskmaster has him beat in this fight.