Taskmaster vs Punisher and Moon Knight

#1 Posted by ChaosBlazer (3930 posts) - 9 months, 7 days ago - Show Bio

Taskmaster

vs

Punisher and Moon Knight

No prep.

Morals off.

Fight in a large, empty warehouse. No bystanders.

Basic equipment.

#2 Posted by Vance Astro (88663 posts) - 9 months, 7 days ago - Show Bio

Taskmaster is afraid of Moon Knight.

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#3 Posted by ChaosBlazer (3930 posts) - 9 months, 7 days ago - Show Bio

@Vance Astro: well Tasky is kind of a coward lol. When he found out he couldn't hurt Luke Cage he was afraid too.

#4 Posted by Vance Astro (88663 posts) - 9 months, 7 days ago - Show Bio

Taskmaster could win with his regular equipment but it all depends on how Moon Knight and Punisher work together. Moon Knight has been an Avenger so he knows how to work with others..he's not great at it but he can, Punisher has worked with various heroes for whatever reason, he's never been very good at it either. Punisher is a great shot. With basic equipment, Taskmaster could get shot in the head or somewhere, that would really turn the tables while he's occupied with Moon Knight, or vice versa. Fighting two characters offer tons of scenarios but I always like to think that ganging up on one character gives you the upper hand. I'd go with the team.

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#5 Posted by ChaosBlazer (3930 posts) - 9 months, 6 days ago - Show Bio

bump.

#6 Posted by TERMINATORXX (3900 posts) - 9 months, 6 days ago - Show Bio

Team

#7 Posted by jeanroygrant (20191 posts) - 9 months, 6 days ago - Show Bio

@Vance Astro said:

Taskmaster could win with his regular equipment but it all depends on how Moon Knight and Punisher work together. Moon Knight has been an Avenger so he knows how to work with others..he's not great at it but he can, Punisher has worked with various heroes for whatever reason, he's never been very good at it either. Punisher is a great shot. With basic equipment, Taskmaster could get shot in the head or somewhere, that would really turn the tables while he's occupied with Moon Knight, or vice versa. Fighting two characters offer tons of scenarios but I always like to think that ganging up on one character gives you the upper hand. I'd go with the team.
#8 Posted by jashro44 (9236 posts) - 9 months, 6 days ago - Show Bio

I think taskmaster should win. He is familiar with both there moves and I can see him closing the gap. I don't think either member of the team is as skilled as him ignoring that one time moon knight beat him...

#9 Posted by Moon_Bat_87 (579 posts) - 9 months, 6 days ago - Show Bio

@Vance Astro said:

Taskmaster could win with his regular equipment but it all depends on how Moon Knight and Punisher work together. Moon Knight has been an Avenger so he knows how to work with others..he's not great at it but he can, Punisher has worked with various heroes for whatever reason, he's never been very good at it either. Punisher is a great shot. With basic equipment, Taskmaster could get shot in the head or somewhere, that would really turn the tables while he's occupied with Moon Knight, or vice versa. Fighting two characters offer tons of scenarios but I always like to think that ganging up on one character gives you the upper hand. I'd go with the team.

This.

But I do think that even if they do not cooperate that they would win.

#10 Edited by ChaosBlazer (3930 posts) - 9 months, 6 days ago - Show Bio

@Moon_Bat_87: If they do not cooperate they will still win? How? Taskmaster can take either of them one-on-one, they will need to work together to have a chance.

#11 Posted by Moon_Bat_87 (579 posts) - 9 months, 6 days ago - Show Bio

@ChaosBlazer said:

@Moon_Bat_87: If they do not cooperate they will still win? How? Moon Knight can take either of them one-on-one, they will need to work together to have a chance.

Thats the point, Moon Knight can take either of them one-on-one, so if Castle didnt want to work with Moon Knight, all he (Moon Knight) would have to do is wait for Taskmaster to kill Castle, and the Moon Knight can move in and take Taskmaster down.

#12 Posted by ChaosBlazer (3930 posts) - 9 months, 6 days ago - Show Bio

@Moon_Bat_87: typo. Meant to say Tasky can take either of them one-on-one.

#13 Posted by Moon_Bat_87 (579 posts) - 9 months, 6 days ago - Show Bio

@ChaosBlazer said:

@Moon_Bat_87: typo. Meant to say Tasky can take either of them one-on-one.

Oh, well, sorry. I was thinking that you made a typo, but I wasnt sure.

I would still say that Moon Knight can defeat both of them.

#14 Posted by ChaosBlazer (3930 posts) - 9 months, 6 days ago - Show Bio

@Moon_Bat_87: any proof? If Moon Knight has defeated him before, then I'm ready to call PIS/inconsistency.

#15 Posted by Vance Astro (88663 posts) - 9 months, 6 days ago - Show Bio
@Moon_Bat_87 said:

@ChaosBlazer said:

@Moon_Bat_87: If they do not cooperate they will still win? How? Moon Knight can take either of them one-on-one, they will need to work together to have a chance.

Thats the point, Moon Knight can take either of them one-on-one, so if Castle didnt want to work with Moon Knight, all he (Moon Knight) would have to do is wait for Taskmaster to kill Castle, and the Moon Knight can move in and take Taskmaster down.

You're over-estimating Moon Knight.
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#16 Posted by ChaosBlazer (3930 posts) - 9 months, 6 days ago - Show Bio

bump.

#17 Edited by Moon_Bat_87 (579 posts) - 9 months, 6 days ago - Show Bio

Something interesting I found:

"Taskmaster has said that he finds Moon Knight's style of fighting annoying, as Moon Knight would rather take a punch than avoid it" - http://www.comicvine.com/taskmaster/29-4578/

Shang-Chi has said that Moon Knight is a Formidable opponent.

Also Moon Knight has show the ability to will his broken body to function as if it were normal. He has also been seen once to fight for 80+ minutes. And I do remember reading that he dodged gun fire on multiple occasions, from Nick Fury none the less.

Additionally I think Moon Knight is stronger than Taskmaster.

And then there is this:

#18 Posted by Vance Astro (88663 posts) - 9 months, 6 days ago - Show Bio
@Moon_Bat_87 said:

Something interesting I found:

"Taskmaster has said that he finds Moon Knight's style of fighting annoying, as Moon Knight would rather take a punch than avoid it" - http://www.comicvine.com/taskmaster/29-4578/

I don't know why Moon Knight's style would even be relevant. Taskmaster is just simply an all-round better fighter than Moon Knight. Why would it be that no other characters make note of Moon Knight's style and have no problem fighting well against him? Don't know why writers always try that "Taskmaster doesn't like this style" or "This character is unpredictable to Taskmaster" nonsense to give a plausible way for a character to beat him. It's just bad writing. 
 
@Moon_Bat_87 said:

Shang-Chi has said that Moon Knight is a Formidable opponent.

Taskmaster>>>Shang Chi. 
 
@Moon_Bat_87 said:

Also Moon Knight has show the ability to will his broken body to function as if it were normal. He has also been seen once to fight for 80+ minutes. 

That's when he had the Moon Powers. 
  
@Moon_Bat_87 said:

 And I do remember reading that he dodged gun fire on multiple occasions, from Nick Fury none the less.

The Punisher and Taskmaster are better marksmen than Fury.
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#19 Edited by Moon_Bat_87 (579 posts) - 9 months, 6 days ago - Show Bio

See images above, I edited them into my post after you replied to my post.

And yes the writers do try to make it plausible for characters to beat them, and it is often PIS, but it still is canon.

#20 Posted by Vance Astro (88663 posts) - 9 months, 6 days ago - Show Bio
@Moon_Bat_87 said:

Sorry see images above, I edited them into my post after you replied to my post.

And yes the writers do try to make it plausible for characters to beat them, and it is often PIS, but it still is canon.

Just because it's canon doesn't mean it's valid in battle forums.
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#21 Posted by Moon_Bat_87 (579 posts) - 9 months, 6 days ago - Show Bio

@Vance Astro said:

@Moon_Bat_87 said:

Sorry see images above, I edited them into my post after you replied to my post.

And yes the writers do try to make it plausible for characters to beat them, and it is often PIS, but it still is canon.

Just because it's canon doesn't mean it's valid in battle forums.

I understand that. But do you believe the images above are PIS?

#22 Posted by Blacklightning13 (909 posts) - 9 months, 6 days ago - Show Bio

@Moon_Bat_87: I do. Batman once took an arrow to the shoulder and screamed in pain. In that image Taskmaster shoots him 4 times with a crossbow. twice in the shoulder, once more (doesn't show it landing) and once in the chest. The first in the shoulder is enough to put nearly anyone down. Moon Knight can still go to the very limit of his body without the pain effecting him. So he could take about 2 before he stops. Your body is designed that if you are severely damaged it begins to give up so as to start diverting blood and energy to the damaged parts of your body. Such people as Batman who can come pretty damn close to controlling everything in there body can resist this but the pain can over come most of them anyway. Also the first shot to the chest judging by where it hit him should have either stabbed his heart, scratched it or come very very close. So that one shot alone should put him down.

#23 Posted by Vance Astro (88663 posts) - 9 months, 6 days ago - Show Bio
@Moon_Bat_87 said:

I understand that. But do you believe the images above are PIS?

Yes. 
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#24 Posted by Moon_Bat_87 (579 posts) - 9 months, 6 days ago - Show Bio

Well then as of right now, I have no knowledge of Moon Knight being able to defeat Taskmaster if that feat and other suggested PIS are removed.

So, then I would say that Taskmaster would win if Punisher and Moon Knight did not work together.

#25 Posted by Strider92 (11251 posts) - 9 months, 6 days ago - Show Bio

@Moon_Bat_87 said:

That was some real bad PIS right there.

Gonna go with Taskmaster. He's held his own against tougher teams than this. Although Punisher and Moon Knight might stand a chance if they manage to work well together.

#26 Posted by TheCheeseStabber (3490 posts) - 9 months, 6 days ago - Show Bio

@Strider92 said:

@Moon_Bat_87 said:

That was some real bad PIS right there.

Gonna go with Taskmaster. He's held his own against tougher teams than this. Although Punisher and Moon Knight might stand a chance if they manage to work well together.

I'de like to bring up that, that fight in the photos was because Moon Knight Crashed his ship into a building an almost ran him over with it before coming out while Tasky was still in a daze and trying to figure out what happened, and wasn't even close to prepared. So kinda PIS i guess.

But if the team works together they might get this but...

#27 Posted by ChaosBlazer (3930 posts) - 9 months, 6 days ago - Show Bio

@TheCheeseStabber: well Tasky wouldn't drop his sword in fear or whatever. That part was stupid.

#28 Posted by Alexander505 (1493 posts) - 9 months, 6 days ago - Show Bio

Team win.

#29 Posted by TheCheeseStabber (3490 posts) - 9 months, 6 days ago - Show Bio

@ChaosBlazer: I don't know if he dropped it in fear or if it got flung out of his hands, I know he slammed down a couple of his weapons on a table when the ship crashed. But if he did drop it it was PIS

#30 Posted by ChaosBlazer (3930 posts) - 9 months, 6 days ago - Show Bio

@TheCheeseStabber: He had his sword up against Moon Knight's head, and then he dropped it in 'fear'. Pretty PISy.

#31 Posted by darktiger (3768 posts) - 9 months, 6 days ago - Show Bio

Taskmaster takes both if they don't work together

#32 Posted by TheCheeseStabber (3490 posts) - 9 months, 6 days ago - Show Bio

@ChaosBlazer: True. Sorry I only remember remnants, I had the ooh but it was stolen :[

#33 Posted by k4tzm4n (30903 posts) - 9 months, 6 days ago - Show Bio

Taskmaster has the skill to take both on and dare I say it, with a fair amount of ease too.

Also, a man that has faced down assorted groups of Avengers and had extended fights with Captain America shouldn't be even remotely afraid of Moon Knight.

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#34 Posted by darktiger (3768 posts) - 9 months, 6 days ago - Show Bio

@k4tzm4n said:

Taskmaster has the skill to take both on and dare I say it, with a fair amount of ease too.

Also, a man that has faced down assorted groups of Avengers and had extended fights with Captain America shouldn't be even remotely afraid of Moon Knight.

agreed he fights teams by himself if he can fight the avengers and take some of them then he can beat moon knight and punisher,it almost makes me laugh

#35 Edited by Vance Astro (88663 posts) - 9 months, 6 days ago - Show Bio
@k4tzm4n said:

Also, a man that has faced down assorted groups of Avengers and had extended fights with Captain America shouldn't be even remotely afraid of Moon Knight.

Just being perfectly honest, just about any Avengers roster has at least one character that would absolutely trash Moon Knight.Whether they be street level or above that.
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#36 Posted by ChaosBlazer (3930 posts) - 9 months, 6 days ago - Show Bio

@Vance Astro said:

@k4tzm4n said:

Also, a man that has faced down assorted groups of Avengers and had extended fights with Captain America shouldn't be even remotely afraid of Moon Knight.

Just being perfectly honest, just about any Avengers roster has at least one character that would absolutely trash Moon Knight.Whether they be street level or above that.

Well Moon Knight is kind of at the low end of street level superheroes in terms of power. He's just not on the level of guys like Captain America or Wolverine.

#37 Posted by k4tzm4n (30903 posts) - 9 months, 6 days ago - Show Bio

.@Vance Astro said:

@k4tzm4n said:

Also, a man that has faced down assorted groups of Avengers and had extended fights with Captain America shouldn't be even remotely afraid of Moon Knight.

Just being perfectly honest, just about any Avengers roster has at least one character that would absolutely trash Moon Knight.Whether they be street level or above that.

Exactly why I said that.

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#38 Edited by Moon_Bat_87 (579 posts) - 9 months, 6 days ago - Show Bio

@ChaosBlazer said:

@Vance Astro said:

@k4tzm4n said:

Also, a man that has faced down assorted groups of Avengers and had extended fights with Captain America shouldn't be even remotely afraid of Moon Knight.

Just being perfectly honest, just about any Avengers roster has at least one character that would absolutely trash Moon Knight.Whether they be street level or above that.

Well Moon Knight is kind of at the low end of street level superheroes in terms of power. He's just not on the level of guys like Captain America or Wolverine.

I feel that Moon Knight is underestimated.

He has stood toe to toe with Deadpool, Spiderman, Bullseye, Werewolf By Night, Daredevil, Deadzone, and even Dr. Doom to name a few. Did he win this fights? Not all. And those he did win he had help. But the fact that he can stand toe tot toe with them is impressive.

The problem is that Moon Knight has extremely inconsistent powers. And his current form is not at all his most powerful.

#39 Edited by k4tzm4n (30903 posts) - 9 months, 6 days ago - Show Bio

@Moon_Bat_87: I don't think saying he's not on par with Captain America or Wolverine is underestimating him. He's simply not up to par with them. Could he give them a decent fight? Absolutely, but the likelihood of him taking a majority is... well, virtually impossible. I think the same applies for Taskmaster. Now, if someone calls Moon Knight useless, pathetic, untalented, etc... then I'd agree he's being underestimated ;)

Honestly, he hasn't had his powers in ages so I don't even take that into account. For me, the biggest problem is his sorely lacking when it comes to hand-to-hand battles against credible and talented opponents. Daredevil's radar was out of whack when they faced (courtesy of the arcade) and I have major personal gripes with that Deadpool battle. I think Moon Knight (especially in that armor) should give Wade a very solid fight, but Deadpool's enhanced stats, skill feats, healing factor and agility should allow him to take that match. Unfortunately, we had an unharmed Moon Knight walk away as the victor.

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#40 Posted by Vance Astro (88663 posts) - 9 months, 6 days ago - Show Bio
@k4tzm4n said:

.@Vance Astro said:

@k4tzm4n said:

Also, a man that has faced down assorted groups of Avengers and had extended fights with Captain America shouldn't be even remotely afraid of Moon Knight.

Just being perfectly honest, just about any Avengers roster has at least one character that would absolutely trash Moon Knight.Whether they be street level or above that.

Exactly why I said that.

0_______0  Miscommunication be killin me....
 
@Moon_Bat_87 said:

But the fact that he can stand toe tot toe with them is impressive.

No it's not. Every street leveler can do that. Taskmaster has the same track record.
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#41 Edited by Moon_Bat_87 (579 posts) - 9 months, 6 days ago - Show Bio

@k4tzm4n said:

@Moon_Bat_87: I don't think saying he's not on par with Captain America or Wolverine is underestimating him. He's simply not up to par with them. Could he give them a decent fight? Absolutely, but the likelihood of him taking a majority is... well, virtually impossible. I think the same applies for Taskmaster. Now, if someone calls Moon Knight useless, pathetic, untalented, etc... then I'd agree he's being underestimated ;)

Honestly, he hasn't had his powers in ages so I don't even take that into account. For me, the biggest problem is his sorely lacking when it comes to hand-to-hand battles against credible and talented opponents. Daredevil's radar was out of whack when they faced (courtesy of the arcade) and I have major personal gripes with that Deadpool battle. I think Moon Knight (especially in that armor) should give Wade a very solid fight, but Deadpool's enhanced stats, skill feats, healing factor and agility should allow him to take that match. Unfortunately, we had an unharmed Moon Knight walk away as the victor.

I can totally agree with you on this.

#42 Edited by k4tzm4n (30903 posts) - 9 months, 6 days ago - Show Bio

@Vance Astro: Man, get you sum engleesh lessuns!

I was essentially saying Taskmaster has no reason to be afraid of Moon Knight - he's fought far worse.

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#43 Posted by SuperBeasty (3 posts) - 6 months, 11 days ago - Show Bio

This is a really sad battle because there is absolutely no detailed information given which make all the possible outcomes of the battle.

#44 Posted by Bitchgurl (130 posts) - 6 months, 11 days ago - Show Bio

Taskmaster wins.

Period.

End of story.

#45 Posted by Nefarious (16250 posts) - 6 months, 11 days ago - Show Bio

The team wins. They are too much for Taskmaster.

#46 Edited by Cochise (651 posts) - 6 months, 11 days ago - Show Bio

Team wins. Taskmaster's ability to memorize reflexes is GREAT on paper but in comics it routinely does not live up to its theoretical effectiveness. He is very good but not the street-level champ some think he is. His "victories" over Avengers tend to be him getting a hit in and then (wisely) running away.

#47 Posted by robertloucksjr (1090 posts) - 6 months, 11 days ago - Show Bio

If Tasky uses his double speed feat to put one down or incapacitate one long enough to take out the other, he wins. If the team can drag it out, they should manage a win.

#48 Edited by Cochise (651 posts) - 6 months, 11 days ago - Show Bio

@robertloucksjr said:

If Tasky uses his double speed feat to put one down or incapacitate one long enough to take out the other, he wins. If the team can drag it out, they should manage a win.

Honest question, how many times has Taskmaster ever used this double time? Outside of the one time in the story it was used, I don't think I've ever seen it used in combat or even mentioned.

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