Taskmaster

vs
Punisher and Moon Knight


No prep.
Morals off.
Fight in a large, empty warehouse. No bystanders.
Basic equipment.
Taskmaster

vs
Punisher and Moon Knight


No prep.
Morals off.
Fight in a large, empty warehouse. No bystanders.
Basic equipment.
Taskmaster is afraid of Moon Knight.
@Vance Astro: well Tasky is kind of a coward lol. When he found out he couldn't hurt Luke Cage he was afraid too.
Taskmaster could win with his regular equipment but it all depends on how Moon Knight and Punisher work together. Moon Knight has been an Avenger so he knows how to work with others..he's not great at it but he can, Punisher has worked with various heroes for whatever reason, he's never been very good at it either. Punisher is a great shot. With basic equipment, Taskmaster could get shot in the head or somewhere, that would really turn the tables while he's occupied with Moon Knight, or vice versa. Fighting two characters offer tons of scenarios but I always like to think that ganging up on one character gives you the upper hand. I'd go with the team.
@Vance Astro said:
Taskmaster could win with his regular equipment but it all depends on how Moon Knight and Punisher work together. Moon Knight has been an Avenger so he knows how to work with others..he's not great at it but he can, Punisher has worked with various heroes for whatever reason, he's never been very good at it either. Punisher is a great shot. With basic equipment, Taskmaster could get shot in the head or somewhere, that would really turn the tables while he's occupied with Moon Knight, or vice versa. Fighting two characters offer tons of scenarios but I always like to think that ganging up on one character gives you the upper hand. I'd go with the team.
@Vance Astro said:
Taskmaster could win with his regular equipment but it all depends on how Moon Knight and Punisher work together. Moon Knight has been an Avenger so he knows how to work with others..he's not great at it but he can, Punisher has worked with various heroes for whatever reason, he's never been very good at it either. Punisher is a great shot. With basic equipment, Taskmaster could get shot in the head or somewhere, that would really turn the tables while he's occupied with Moon Knight, or vice versa. Fighting two characters offer tons of scenarios but I always like to think that ganging up on one character gives you the upper hand. I'd go with the team.
This.
But I do think that even if they do not cooperate that they would win.
@Moon_Bat_87: If they do not cooperate they will still win? How? Taskmaster can take either of them one-on-one, they will need to work together to have a chance.
@ChaosBlazer said:
@Moon_Bat_87: If they do not cooperate they will still win? How? Moon Knight can take either of them one-on-one, they will need to work together to have a chance.
Thats the point, Moon Knight can take either of them one-on-one, so if Castle didnt want to work with Moon Knight, all he (Moon Knight) would have to do is wait for Taskmaster to kill Castle, and the Moon Knight can move in and take Taskmaster down.
@Moon_Bat_87: typo. Meant to say Tasky can take either of them one-on-one.
@ChaosBlazer said:
@Moon_Bat_87: typo. Meant to say Tasky can take either of them one-on-one.
Oh, well, sorry. I was thinking that you made a typo, but I wasnt sure.
I would still say that Moon Knight can defeat both of them.
@Moon_Bat_87: any proof? If Moon Knight has defeated him before, then I'm ready to call PIS/inconsistency.
You're over-estimating Moon Knight.@ChaosBlazer said:
@Moon_Bat_87: If they do not cooperate they will still win? How? Moon Knight can take either of them one-on-one, they will need to work together to have a chance.
Thats the point, Moon Knight can take either of them one-on-one, so if Castle didnt want to work with Moon Knight, all he (Moon Knight) would have to do is wait for Taskmaster to kill Castle, and the Moon Knight can move in and take Taskmaster down.
Something interesting I found:
"Taskmaster has said that he finds Moon Knight's style of fighting annoying, as Moon Knight would rather take a punch than avoid it" - http://www.comicvine.com/taskmaster/29-4578/
Shang-Chi has said that Moon Knight is a Formidable opponent.
Also Moon Knight has show the ability to will his broken body to function as if it were normal. He has also been seen once to fight for 80+ minutes. And I do remember reading that he dodged gun fire on multiple occasions, from Nick Fury none the less.
Additionally I think Moon Knight is stronger than Taskmaster.
And then there is this:


I don't know why Moon Knight's style would even be relevant. Taskmaster is just simply an all-round better fighter than Moon Knight. Why would it be that no other characters make note of Moon Knight's style and have no problem fighting well against him? Don't know why writers always try that "Taskmaster doesn't like this style" or "This character is unpredictable to Taskmaster" nonsense to give a plausible way for a character to beat him. It's just bad writing.Something interesting I found:
"Taskmaster has said that he finds Moon Knight's style of fighting annoying, as Moon Knight would rather take a punch than avoid it" - http://www.comicvine.com/taskmaster/29-4578/
Taskmaster>>>Shang Chi.Shang-Chi has said that Moon Knight is a Formidable opponent.
That's when he had the Moon Powers.Also Moon Knight has show the ability to will his broken body to function as if it were normal. He has also been seen once to fight for 80+ minutes.
The Punisher and Taskmaster are better marksmen than Fury.And I do remember reading that he dodged gun fire on multiple occasions, from Nick Fury none the less.
See images above, I edited them into my post after you replied to my post.
And yes the writers do try to make it plausible for characters to beat them, and it is often PIS, but it still is canon.
Just because it's canon doesn't mean it's valid in battle forums.Sorry see images above, I edited them into my post after you replied to my post.
And yes the writers do try to make it plausible for characters to beat them, and it is often PIS, but it still is canon.
@Vance Astro said:
@Moon_Bat_87 said:Just because it's canon doesn't mean it's valid in battle forums.Sorry see images above, I edited them into my post after you replied to my post.
And yes the writers do try to make it plausible for characters to beat them, and it is often PIS, but it still is canon.
I understand that. But do you believe the images above are PIS?
@Moon_Bat_87: I do. Batman once took an arrow to the shoulder and screamed in pain. In that image Taskmaster shoots him 4 times with a crossbow. twice in the shoulder, once more (doesn't show it landing) and once in the chest. The first in the shoulder is enough to put nearly anyone down. Moon Knight can still go to the very limit of his body without the pain effecting him. So he could take about 2 before he stops. Your body is designed that if you are severely damaged it begins to give up so as to start diverting blood and energy to the damaged parts of your body. Such people as Batman who can come pretty damn close to controlling everything in there body can resist this but the pain can over come most of them anyway. Also the first shot to the chest judging by where it hit him should have either stabbed his heart, scratched it or come very very close. So that one shot alone should put him down.
Yes.I understand that. But do you believe the images above are PIS?
Well then as of right now, I have no knowledge of Moon Knight being able to defeat Taskmaster if that feat and other suggested PIS are removed.
So, then I would say that Taskmaster would win if Punisher and Moon Knight did not work together.
@Strider92 said:
@Moon_Bat_87 said:
That was some real bad PIS right there.
Gonna go with Taskmaster. He's held his own against tougher teams than this. Although Punisher and Moon Knight might stand a chance if they manage to work well together.
I'de like to bring up that, that fight in the photos was because Moon Knight Crashed his ship into a building an almost ran him over with it before coming out while Tasky was still in a daze and trying to figure out what happened, and wasn't even close to prepared. So kinda PIS i guess.
But if the team works together they might get this but...
@TheCheeseStabber: well Tasky wouldn't drop his sword in fear or whatever. That part was stupid.
@ChaosBlazer: I don't know if he dropped it in fear or if it got flung out of his hands, I know he slammed down a couple of his weapons on a table when the ship crashed. But if he did drop it it was PIS
@TheCheeseStabber: He had his sword up against Moon Knight's head, and then he dropped it in 'fear'. Pretty PISy.
@ChaosBlazer: True. Sorry I only remember remnants, I had the ooh but it was stolen :[
Taskmaster has the skill to take both on and dare I say it, with a fair amount of ease too.
Also, a man that has faced down assorted groups of Avengers and had extended fights with Captain America shouldn't be even remotely afraid of Moon Knight.
@k4tzm4n said:
Taskmaster has the skill to take both on and dare I say it, with a fair amount of ease too.
Also, a man that has faced down assorted groups of Avengers and had extended fights with Captain America shouldn't be even remotely afraid of Moon Knight.
agreed he fights teams by himself if he can fight the avengers and take some of them then he can beat moon knight and punisher,it almost makes me laugh
Just being perfectly honest, just about any Avengers roster has at least one character that would absolutely trash Moon Knight.Whether they be street level or above that.Also, a man that has faced down assorted groups of Avengers and had extended fights with Captain America shouldn't be even remotely afraid of Moon Knight.
@Vance Astro said:
@k4tzm4n said:Just being perfectly honest, just about any Avengers roster has at least one character that would absolutely trash Moon Knight.Whether they be street level or above that.Also, a man that has faced down assorted groups of Avengers and had extended fights with Captain America shouldn't be even remotely afraid of Moon Knight.
Well Moon Knight is kind of at the low end of street level superheroes in terms of power. He's just not on the level of guys like Captain America or Wolverine.
.@Vance Astro said:
@k4tzm4n said:Just being perfectly honest, just about any Avengers roster has at least one character that would absolutely trash Moon Knight.Whether they be street level or above that.Also, a man that has faced down assorted groups of Avengers and had extended fights with Captain America shouldn't be even remotely afraid of Moon Knight.
Exactly why I said that.
@ChaosBlazer said:
@Vance Astro said:
@k4tzm4n said:Just being perfectly honest, just about any Avengers roster has at least one character that would absolutely trash Moon Knight.Whether they be street level or above that.Also, a man that has faced down assorted groups of Avengers and had extended fights with Captain America shouldn't be even remotely afraid of Moon Knight.
Well Moon Knight is kind of at the low end of street level superheroes in terms of power. He's just not on the level of guys like Captain America or Wolverine.
I feel that Moon Knight is underestimated.
He has stood toe to toe with Deadpool, Spiderman, Bullseye, Werewolf By Night, Daredevil, Deadzone, and even Dr. Doom to name a few. Did he win this fights? Not all. And those he did win he had help. But the fact that he can stand toe tot toe with them is impressive.
The problem is that Moon Knight has extremely inconsistent powers. And his current form is not at all his most powerful.
@Moon_Bat_87: I don't think saying he's not on par with Captain America or Wolverine is underestimating him. He's simply not up to par with them. Could he give them a decent fight? Absolutely, but the likelihood of him taking a majority is... well, virtually impossible. I think the same applies for Taskmaster. Now, if someone calls Moon Knight useless, pathetic, untalented, etc... then I'd agree he's being underestimated ;)
Honestly, he hasn't had his powers in ages so I don't even take that into account. For me, the biggest problem is his sorely lacking when it comes to hand-to-hand battles against credible and talented opponents. Daredevil's radar was out of whack when they faced (courtesy of the arcade) and I have major personal gripes with that Deadpool battle. I think Moon Knight (especially in that armor) should give Wade a very solid fight, but Deadpool's enhanced stats, skill feats, healing factor and agility should allow him to take that match. Unfortunately, we had an unharmed Moon Knight walk away as the victor.
0_______0 Miscommunication be killin me.....@Vance Astro said:
@k4tzm4n said:Just being perfectly honest, just about any Avengers roster has at least one character that would absolutely trash Moon Knight.Whether they be street level or above that.Also, a man that has faced down assorted groups of Avengers and had extended fights with Captain America shouldn't be even remotely afraid of Moon Knight.
Exactly why I said that.
No it's not. Every street leveler can do that. Taskmaster has the same track record.But the fact that he can stand toe tot toe with them is impressive.
@k4tzm4n said:
@Moon_Bat_87: I don't think saying he's not on par with Captain America or Wolverine is underestimating him. He's simply not up to par with them. Could he give them a decent fight? Absolutely, but the likelihood of him taking a majority is... well, virtually impossible. I think the same applies for Taskmaster. Now, if someone calls Moon Knight useless, pathetic, untalented, etc... then I'd agree he's being underestimated ;)
Honestly, he hasn't had his powers in ages so I don't even take that into account. For me, the biggest problem is his sorely lacking when it comes to hand-to-hand battles against credible and talented opponents. Daredevil's radar was out of whack when they faced (courtesy of the arcade) and I have major personal gripes with that Deadpool battle. I think Moon Knight (especially in that armor) should give Wade a very solid fight, but Deadpool's enhanced stats, skill feats, healing factor and agility should allow him to take that match. Unfortunately, we had an unharmed Moon Knight walk away as the victor.
I can totally agree with you on this.
This is a really sad battle because there is absolutely no detailed information given which make all the possible outcomes of the battle.
Team wins. Taskmaster's ability to memorize reflexes is GREAT on paper but in comics it routinely does not live up to its theoretical effectiveness. He is very good but not the street-level champ some think he is. His "victories" over Avengers tend to be him getting a hit in and then (wisely) running away.
If Tasky uses his double speed feat to put one down or incapacitate one long enough to take out the other, he wins. If the team can drag it out, they should manage a win.
@robertloucksjr said:
If Tasky uses his double speed feat to put one down or incapacitate one long enough to take out the other, he wins. If the team can drag it out, they should manage a win.
Honest question, how many times has Taskmaster ever used this double time? Outside of the one time in the story it was used, I don't think I've ever seen it used in combat or even mentioned.
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