Taskmaster has never beaten Iron Man or anywhere near it. Come on. Dodging twice and knocking him down without doing any kind of damage to him is no "win". Tony had to shoot a guard to escape. He never soloed the Avengers in the 80s either.
That being said, UDON Taskmaster could take the team down. His track record against Cap is actually very good, and he held his own against them already without the benefits provided in this thread.
I don't see this suit being being a benefit for Taskmaster, if anything he's better off without it.
"A second more of this and I will shatter every bone in my body or pass out from exhaustion"
All this for what? To just double his speed?
Bucky has said that Steve is 3 times faster, stronger and more durable than he is and he said that 50s Cap was 2 times that of Cap yet Bucky kept up with 50s Cap due to his arm and defeated 50s Cap in all their encounters by outsmarting him or using his acrobats. With his arm, Bucky has caught arrows and deflected bullet like projectiles.
That being said, Cap has also tangoed with 50s Cap who is double of all his own stats.
The team takes it. They just have to keep applying pressure and defend with their shields and Taskmaster will eventually brake all his bones.
EDIT: Read the OP once more... his body wont' be damaged? That's a little unfair now. Team still might be able to take it though, it's just A LOT harder.
@Strider92: To be honest, I think TM does take it but it's a little unfair. I would at least give the team 1 hour of prep and knowledge that he's going to be twice as fast and has a SHIELD Weapons generator.
@Strider92: To be honest, I think TM does take it but it's a little unfair. I would at least give the team 1 hour of prep and knowledge that he's going to be twice as fast and has a SHIELD Weapons generator.
Fair point. I've edited the op so he can only generate Cap's shield. If he can generate any weapon offensive and defensive its unbalanced.
@Vance Astro: I think Bucky could fight and beat Taskmaster in a H2H battle, but only once, then he would research Bucky and memorize all his new moves.
But in this case Taskmaster gets to strike twice as fast without any problems to his body. That's not really fair IMO, the guy already has the power to photographically memorize everyone's moves and then mimic them.
How do you feel the whole UDON suit plust 2X his speed without any draw backs fairs in this fight?
@Vance Astro: I think Bucky could fight and beat Taskmaster in a H2H battle, but only once, then he would research Bucky and memorize all his new moves. But in this case Taskmaster gets to strike twice as fast without any problems to his body. That's not really fair IMO, the guy already has the power to photographically memorize everyone's moves and then mimic them. How do you feel the whole UDON suit plust 2X his speed without any draw backs fairs in this fight?
Knowing all of someone's moves isn't a win for Taskmaster.
Also, y'all gotta read the text in those UDON scans. His body can hardly handle moving at Spider-Man's speed, so its not like he can constantly move around like him:
"A second more of this and I'll either shatter every bone in my body or pass out from exhaustion."
Not trying to downplay him, but we should keep his limitations in mind.
Also, y'all gotta read the text in those UDON scans. His body can hardly handle moving at Spider-Man's speed, so its not like he can constantly move around like him:
"A second more of this and I'll either shatter every bone in my body or pass out from exhaustion."
Not trying to downplay him, but we should keep his limitations in mind.
I made the same mistake as you if you read my post, in the OP he has no body damage for this fight. Kinda unfair right?
Also, y'all gotta read the text in those UDON scans. His body can hardly handle moving at Spider-Man's speed, so its not like he can constantly move around like him:
"A second more of this and I'll either shatter every bone in my body or pass out from exhaustion."
Not trying to downplay him, but we should keep his limitations in mind.
This is actually a common misconception Taskmaster can copy someones movements eg: Spider-mans but cannot perfom them at anywhere near the same speed. For exemple if he watched Gorgon cut through a machine-gun fire as it flew towards him Taskmaster could copy the attack flawlessly but would he be able to perform it at the same speed? No because Gorgon is super-human. he would be able to use all Gorgon's movements but would not be able to do them at the speeds Gorgon performs them at.
His double time lets him perform at 2x the speed of a peak human should be able to move at. Where as someone like Spider-man due to his durability is designed to perform at 15x the speed of a peak human (I believe it was 15x could be more could be a little less but its still a lot above 2x). Thus Taskmaster is performing movements at roughly 2x the speed of Cap but still nowhere near someone like Spider-man. I don't see Taskmaster taking this easily as there are 2 people on the other team.
Edit: I just looked up Spider-mans speed and he performs at 40x the speed of a peak human this is a speed Taskmaster cannot hope to achieve.
@texasdeathmatch:Np :). I've edited the op to make it clearer. Explaining that he can't go faster than 2x
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@SlimJ87D: Ah, well that's silly. Might as well give him a healing factor and adamantium :P.
If i'd have given him a healing factor (or god forbid adimantium bones) He would have been incredible overpowered. He performs his speeds at 2x because its the only speed he can function at that doesn't instantly destroy his body. If he had a healing factor he could put on a tape of say Iron Fist and play it at 100x times the normal speed and be able to perform those exact movements at 100x the speed of Iron Fist. Heck he could put it at 200x if his healing factor was strong enough. So there's a BIG difference between unlimited 2x speed and Taskmaster with a HF.
@Strider92: Haha yeah, I was just being a jerk and joking around. But damn, he'd be a beast.
Yeah I know :p I was just trying to put the difference into perspective. If he had a HF all he'd have to do is sit down and watch Gorgon, Shang-chi and Spider-man all at 100x normal speed and we could say goodbye to a lot of heros lol.
Also, y'all gotta read the text in those UDON scans. His body can hardly handle moving at Spider-Man's speed, so its not like he can constantly move around like him:
"A second more of this and I'll either shatter every bone in my body or pass out from exhaustion."
Not trying to downplay him, but we should keep his limitations in mind.
This is actually a common misconception Taskmaster can copy someones movements eg: Spider-mans but cannot perfom them at anywhere near the same speed. For exemple if he watched Gorgon cut through a machine-gun fire as it flew towards him Taskmaster could copy the attack flawlessly but would he be able to perform it at the same speed? No because Gorgon is super-human. he would be able to use all Gorgon's movements but would not be able to do them at the speeds Gorgon performs them at.
His double time lets him perform at 2x the speed of a peak human should be able to move at. Where as someone like Spider-man due to his durability is designed to perform at 15x the speed of a peak human (I believe it was 15x could be more could be a little less but its still a lot above 2x). Thus Taskmaster is performing movements at roughly 2x the speed of Cap but still nowhere near someone like Spider-man. I don't see Taskmaster taking this easily as there are 2 people on the other team.
Edit: I just looked up Spider-mans speed and he performs at 40x the speed of a peak human this is a speed Taskmaster cannot hope to achieve.
Where did you get that info? I read in a bio that his speed and reflexes are 16X. His top sprint was like 120 MPH which sounds about 16X to me.
@SlimJ87D: Spider-man has said his reflexes are 40x faster then a peak human twice. I can't find the other scan though...But here is one of them.
Oh, reflexes and speed are very different. On top of reflexes, he may have calculated his spider sense giving him pre-cognition on adition to his above normal reflexes giving him extreme reflexes. For example, things that fly toward your eye hardly ever hit your eye. I really don't believe speed and reflexes, although directly affect each other, are one and the same.
Speed wise, he has ran 120 MPH (I did the calculations once since he ran an X amount of distance in an Y amount of time) and that is pretty close to 16 times average human running speeds. 40 is quite a bit, ad due to his lower showings compared to someone that can move 40X (all the people he has fought even with and has been taged by) I think it might be safer to assume his speed is about 16X and that is even pushing it compared to his lower showings.
Either way the scan mentions speed and SPider-man directly says reflexes which both relate but are not one in the same. I think it's safe to assume that the people who have tagged Spider-man or other occurrences would lead us all to accept that he is far below 40X the speed of an average human, because that is quite a big number.
Where did you get that info? I read in a bio that his speed and reflexes are 16X. His top sprint was like 120 MPH which sounds about 16X to me.
Well this scan is a good example he states that he is moving twice (2x) the speed of a normal human and if he kept it up he would shatter every bone in his body. If he almost caused himself damage by moving at 2x how can he possibly hope to react at 16x without completely destroying himself?
Do you have any scans to back this up? Because i'd be interested to see where he's exhibited that kind of speed.
@Strider92: WHat? I was talking about you mentioning Spider-man's speed being 40X, the scan above clearly state it's his reflexes that are 40X.
As for his running speed, I'm not sure anymore, I might have got mixed up with his swinging speeds, a long time ago he ran a distance in a certain amount of time and I either remember calculating it at 60 or 120. It could have been a mix up of MPH or kilometers.
Both Captain America and Bucky probably have better reflexes than Taskmaster.Double time is some Udon sh#t.I've never seen any comparable reflex feats to that from him.
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