T-3000,T-X,T-1000 vs United States

Rules

no nukes

morals on

US has 1 day prep

could the terminators destroy the US?

US in a stomp.

The t-1000 is destroyed and the t-3000 is incapped immediately.

This is a mismatch of epic proportions.

U.S

@mrmxyzptlk: the t-1000 could morph into other people he killed,the t-3000 too i guess,even if they know where the terminators are causing destruction they could morph into normal people and get way i dont think the U.S would bomb the shit out of the place because civilians morals on.i think they would try to disable/destroy them at ground level with tanks etc and that would be alot harder

U.S uses electromagnetic scans to detect the hidden terminators.

US then bfrs t3000 to focus on t1000

Once t3000 is away of t1000 US uses a FEL laser to melt t1000 since hes the primal target

US then focus everything on t3000 and he dies horribly

T-X inflitrates and takes control of the human's tech, no?

Wat. Terminators get stomped, they wouldn't stand a chance against a few modern police departments.

HUMANS FTW

RULES DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING ABOUT MORALS.

BOMB THE LIVING DAYLIGHTS OUT OF EVERYTHING

@uft: good point hacking and passing false information in their advantage.

@Mr_NoFunAllowed: and acomplish the terminators goal

Yeah, there's no limitations or restrictions in the OP.

Nukes ftw.

if you can't beat it, bomb it

Anyone can beat a terminator , i could kill one with just a kitchen knife , except for the terminator 2 guy , hes the true terminator

@roberto alvarenga: only one problem the u.s. uses a laser on the T-1000, but not the T-3000 that can't be destroyed by a laser. The T-800 hit the T-3000 with a laser and John survived fine. I suppose the u.s. dies. Those machines would steal and top every weaponary on there military base.

Also guys The military isn't gonna bomb the entire united States or they won't have a place to live anymore. Lol

@roberto alvarenga: You thinking you can beat A TERMINATOR with a knife? Good example of trolling.

T-800, T-850, T-1000, T-X, T-3000, T-5000 and skynate would all laugh in your face, video record you doing it and with the flick of a finger you're pizza sauced.

where do they start? do the t's start in the US?

Morals off, US wins in a stomp, lol.

Just dump nanobots eating everyshit on the terminators.

@batmanspreppack: yeah

@mypasswords1234: terminator from first movie yes , easily , he has incredible strenght , but in skeleton mode hes so easy to kill.

Knife the wires , all of them , start by the arms , its quite easy since hes slow and unarmored...

As for the others , may as well kill yourself :/

@mypasswords1234: we're talking about FEL lasers , lasers wich easily melt trough 3m of steel / s ...

His nanobots dont stand a chance , neither do any other terminator , or more than half the things achieved with this century 's technology...

The terminator 2 terminator seems more dangerous since hes immune to basically everything , except molten metal.

@xtrojan: this is not U.S in the year 2200

@rickyrck: you do realize nanobots already exist right?

Well in a very simple state , but in 10 or so years...

Tough i guess that still doesnt apply to nowadays

@roberto alvarenga: yes i know but even 10 years from now,hell,even 50 years from now on i bet they woulndt be able to deploy nanobots to destroy a humansize living being/robot

The only reason the machines were winning is because we had little military and low class tech. We have everything now to defeat them including emp

U.S.A.

Laughing out loud.

Nice battle..thanks

@roberto alvarenga: The T-800 in salvation survived moltein metal which is 1,569,790 degrees hotter than the sun. That T-800 wouldn't even realise those lasers even touched him. And that's also if those TERMINATOR's don't disarm the humans first and use there lasers against them which would most likely happen. Those lasers would melt the Americans and you as well far quicker than it would any TERMINATOR. The TERMINATOR from T2 was a T-1000. A T-1000 died in acid in the new movie that was released. Sounds like you have very little knowledge on TERMINATOR'S. John survived a laser hit by a T-800 and they were in the year 2017 and had far greater tech than the Americans can dream of having. Even the Japanese couldn't have.

@roberto alvarenga: again wrong. Knifing the wires isn't how to destroy a T-800. There's only one way to kill a T-800, but I surely won't tell you.You also have to go through the T-800's armor first before you access wiring. Which you stand no chance at doing. The T-800 would pat you on the head and have you and the u.s.a. bowing to him. Just like in the end.

Skynate will stomp the entire earth. They sure turned john into a slave in the last movie. The big warrior.

Man vs. Machine. No contest.

Machines win hands down.

@mypasswords1234: i can clearly see unprotected wires an hydraulics near his shoulders and his arms , in certain places pf his neck , his legs , and the under part pf his torso.

They're also not faster than a human , nor more agile , and due to this they're somewhat predicable , so one could flawlessly kill one , if they dont get crabbed by his hands , wich can instantly stop the heart of a human.

By cutting hydraulics he cant move , and his hydraulics are relativistically unprotected , his armor is made of a alloy of ceramic and a temperature resistant metal , wich can be pierced by 100mm+ cannons.

Theyre also primarly meant for ranged attacks , and temperature resistance , since most weapons in the future are plasmas , and going hand to hand is only a secondary strategy.

As for the others they can be killed by killing their nanobots (in case of t3000) or melting their amorphous bodies(t1000) , wich shows the temperature resistance of around 1000C , a temperature relativistically easly achievable by almost every advanced weaponry nowadays.

T1000 is primal target , his amorphous body represents bigger threats in terms of versatility , t800 is cannon fodder , easily killable by even simple shells.

T3000 is the hardest.

Due to the incredible lack of science in t3000 , he apparently is a god , because movie makers forgot to realize nanobots can easily have their rotaxanes damaged , and IRL t1000 is far more durable.

So the only option is to get him to space , wich shouldnt be too hard , just magnet him inside a pod and launch him to space.

Hes physically weak , but he punches fast , wich will prove futile agaisnt some very well armored and magnetized cage.

His nanobots have also shown lack of ability to consume matter , and it will probably stay that way since skynet doesnt want grey goo taking over the world.

Altough , if we do take this scientifically , since this is a realism battle , john's nanobots would get mowed trough by plasma (movie also forgot plasma has some ridiculous magnetism...of course) , and would get hilariously rekt by FEL lasers ;)

us

I loled.

Sadly, there's a troll in this thread, because I think the question is fairly interesting. I believe it could go either way.

All of the terminators can morph, and this will be a huge advantage for them. I suppose that every human could have a sophisticated temperature monitor with them at all times, in order to determine if the "person" before them is really human (presumably, terminators wouldn't have an average human body temperature, but I could be wrong).

Dogpiling the T-X would work. Enough humans on top of it, and it would be destroyed.

Dogpiling the T-1000 and T-3000 would be ineffective.

Are you guys freaking kidding me? This is the US of A. They put together a special forces team of Sam Fisher, John McClane, and Rocky Balboa, the machines stand no chance in hell.

@allstarsuperman: the machines steal weaponary off the military base and use it against them. Those machines are gonna destroy the world in the head. Humans die to easily. One shot to the chest they die. Machines don't even flinch when shot. When humans can survive gun shots without blinking, let me know.

@roberto alvarenga: T-800's have gotten up from truck explosions, grenade blast, shotgun rounds. Ak47 rounds...etc... That didn't do squat to the T-800. What makes you think your dads little pocket knife will do anything? The T-800 would just grab your arm and break it. He's had his power source knocked out and came back.

If cutting his hydrolucs would work, then why didn't they do it in the movie? Cause Reese knows it won't work.and T-800's survived grenade blast and truck explosions with no damage to the hydrolics and there wiring is underneath there metal.

Now the T-1000 who died in acid that the T-800 washed his arm in and was not effected by the acid is more durable than the T-3000 who tanked bigger helicopter explosions, lasered, fell from insane heights,etc..isn't as durable as a T-1000? Your a joke, dude.

And yes magnets only last so long. Until they run out of gas. John himself could take over the world. The u.s. would need a bomb strong enough to take out practicly a city which was what the field generated did that killed him, but its not only john they're dealing with. Its john, a T-X and A T-1000. Chances are one of the other TERMINATOR'S will be chasing the u.s. in a helicopter and blowing there copter yo and the humans die.

Machines win. Let it go dude. Let the humans losing ride.

@mypasswords1234: t800 only did what it did , because PIS bullshit.

Hes supposed to be unstoppable , but in real life hes cannon fodder.

Hes made of temperature resistant metal and ceramic alloy , and maths done is only slightly stronger than A36 steel.

His shoulder hydraulics are completely unprotected , and so are his wires.

A hammer could malfunction the hydraulics , or a knife could cut the wires that control daid hydraulics.

I real life they are nowhere near what they are in the movie ,since the movie just keeps forgetting about their logical mortality.

1million degrees hotter than the sun metal?

Oh please make me laugh...

T1000 died horribly in a molten iron pool , and so did t800 , that is not even anywhere close to the temperature of the sun...

T1000 is stronger IRL , hes amorphous programmable matter , far more advanced than t3000 , But the movie treats him like if he were useless.

t1000 died in acid because his matter wasnt resistant to it.

Just becaude glass is acid resistant doesnt mean its stronger than steel , thats not how logic works.

T800 survived getting his battery shot?

Hell no , he had his battery ripped trough , he had his hydraulics all malfunctioning and could barely move , and had to resort to an extra temporary battery to reboot , that is not surviving , since he was completely battle un-ready , and could only surprise grenade launch t1000 to molten iron , had he failed , t1000 would have his head on a platter.

They both died in temperatures easily achieved by nowadays adanced energy weapons , and t800 got his heart ripped by a steel beam , a 100+mm cannon would easily one shot him if aimed properly.

T800 stands no chance.

T1000 is far more versatile , he can not only disguise as a person as he can disguise as anything his volume allows him , wich could be confusing in a battlefield.

Some simple tank hell would stagger him , a FEL would melt him in less than 10 seconds.

As for t3000 hes made of nanites , they move electromagnetically and are easily punched trough by even a improvised magnet glove , wich is nowhere near nowadays advanced magnetism , and he could easily be stuck in a loop as if he were a shirt inca washing machine , and this is still film-friendly.

We saw that some laser sword cut him straight trough , and stopped him from speedblitzing t800 , a far slower individual.

In real life , his nanites would get mowed trough by FEL lasers , and as a byproduct , the temperature achieved would easily damage the rotaxanes in nearby nanobots wich would make them unneficient at replicating themselves.

Hell even some simple high gauge shell would damage him , tough he would quickly regenerate and said cannon would have to reload.

A vehicle mounted 54MJ railgun would cut him straight trough and send him flying , greatly damaging any important parts in his torso.

Tough this would only stagger him and he would regenerate , because he apparently had infinite nanites...

The only thing needed to kill him is a vortex like magnetic cage , and a FEL , aim that FEL at him and he would get nowed trough , especially since hes in a vortex...

Another option is to put grey goo on him , but said grey goo could go rogue and consume our entire world.

The movie brings some unexplaine PIS resistance just to make them unstoppable so that the movie doesnt end in them getting hilariously rekt by modern day simple and advanced weaponry...

As for those who say:

They would infiltrate us ...

Nah they wouldnt , we have electromagnetical sensors that can detect them from kilometers away...

Or you could just use a magnet and throw it at everyone you look at , and i guess you get the point.

@mypasswords1234: you know that a nail with sun temperature would insta-kill any living human in 1000 km radius? that mean those molted metal would kill all live on earth

@roberto alvarenga: no, the T-800 did what he did because he's that durable. Its canon. Sorry, you can't rewrite the movie.

In real life he's a God compared to a puny human who aren't very durable. That die of diseases and cant live as long.

His wires are protected and you fail to forget his wires are underneath his armor. Plus T-800's are programmes with self repairness.

You are aware john was turned into a TERMINATOR by a T-5000? I'd let the T-5000 turn me on and I garentee you, the u.s. dies. Only reason kyle and Sarah one was help by pops who's a T-800.

Yes it took a field generator to destroy John, but you fail to see the team work used in the movie. Kyle activated it and pops was hding john down trapping him. I suppose the u.s. better have a reprogrammed T-800 to save them or they're dead..end..of, but pops barely beat him. He needed a lot of help. John could dance around every u.s. agent all day & night.

Johns nanobots are far stronger, durable and better than a T-1000's.

@bachh2: its been argued Superman's heat vision is hotter than the sun, but it can be argued its not considering he's used his heat visions on earth and if it was that hot, then the earth and mankind would if melted & died.

@mypasswords1234: is this a superman thread? last check it's a teminator threat and the melting metal is no where near a nuclear reaction level of heat.

@mypasswords1234: isn't realism a thin when we're talking realistic battles between realistic technology agaisnt nowadays realistic technology?

Im pretty sure it is.

''T800 is a god'' , dont make me laugh , a factory pressig machine redued it to shreds , hes not muh stronger than steel , any common ww2 and above tank would one shot him , and this is still canon friendly.

He took 40mm grenades wich rely on fragmentation , this is not a feat of durability , 40mm fragnades =/= 100+ AP shells

''His wires are protected'' did you even look at his shoulders , or his arms?

''Self-repairness'' , yeah , because using scrap metal and putting it as replacement for t800 components is self repair.

I once repaired a computer with a few spair tin and copper wire , does that mean it can self repair?

I clearly see a few wires , and alot of unprotected hydraulics.

You seem to act as if t3000 was immortal , when he can easily be rekt by magnetism , he even got outpunched by a slow t800 with improvised magnet gloves... Now imagine a well magnetized cage , he couldnt even reassamble and would just vortex for the rest of his days...

And that is still canon friendly.

In real life , he would be desintegrated in no time by almost every modern energy weapon , and would get hilariously curbstomped by magnetic field generating dishes , since he wouldnt be able to properly assemble , and would get mowed trough by FEL lasers.

The nanites in that movie are no where near real life nanites , and are inaccuratly ignoring the limitations of nanomachines , rotaxanes , and the law of fundamental dynamics.

If the t5000 turned you into a t3000 youd just get magnetized all over the place , sorry buddy , a washing machine's life would be your life.

IRL , nanobots are child's play for programmable matter , t1000 could have done so much more.

@bachh2: I was using supes heat vision as an example. Just to school some children in the thread.

@mypasswords1234: superman does not obey by our physic's rules.

Molten metal does , and its not hotter than the sun , its not hotter than plasma , and its not hotter than lasers.

@roberto alvarenga: the T-800 is closer to god level than you'll ever be... Hahaha... That hydroluc press would of crushed you and the u.s. army too and they'd die far quicker than the T-800 did. Since this debates about man vs machine, you can't use a hydtolic press as an excuse like the humans are gonna survive that.

Let me put it to you like this, the u.s. isn't strong enough to pick up the T-800's bucket of piss. Let alone do squat to a T-3000, a T-X and a T-1000.

Self repair is when the T-800 did arm and eye surgery as seen in the first one and when pops in T5 put his knee back into place. Humans have slow healing factors, they can't move when they get shot or they die at that. Lolol

You keep arguing lasers... John survived two major big laser blast by a T-800 and was hit pretty good. Because John's shown to recover from laser hits by a T-800. Your laser arguments going to fail. John would disarm them and laser the u.s. and would terminate the u.s. soldiers in seconds and john laughs in thee face due to the fact he can come back to life and the humans stay dead.

That magnetic junk only last for so long til it runs out of enegery. They tried that on John and it didn't last to long. Seriously dude, you need to watch the movie and stop trolling. Lol

Now there's nano machines in real life? You need to link me to this and link me to a site that states its more powerful than johns. Bet u can't.

If I got turned into a T-3000 I'd have a lot of fun, I'd just mimic a soldier after killing it, the leader of the base, steal all the weapons, including grenande launchers, missle launchers, lasers, and all the pieces it takes to make bombs and stomp the whole country including YOU with it and laugh @ you. The u.s. would have no weaponary then because I done stole ALL of it. They'd have to cry to the Japanese for help and say there sorrys for bombing there country because a T-3000 stole there weaponary and is about to do what they did to the japs.

BOMB EVERY BODY!

The T-1000's durability isn't impressive when compared to John's. After liquid nitrogen, he kept glitching which means his form was screwed up bad. They confirmed this in the directors cut.

@roberto alvarenga: its not hotter than a laser? Which john survived? When humans are durable enough to withstand lasers. Come back with feats. When the humans stop losing to machines like they do in the movie, let me know.

The TERMINATOR's stomps

the United States into the ocean..so hard..

They take over the world including this little piece of land on earth.

@mypasswords1234: lol your saying that an army would get crushed by a pressing machine?

How in any sort of anything in any universe that could ever exist , would that sentence make sense?

Armies are not an individual , they're armies , you cant put a army in a pressing machine , but an army can put a t800 in it.

And still , t800 gets rekt by 100+mm AP shells , and this is still canon friendly , since the t800 has never been shot at by a high gauge cannon , and he was dented by simple 40mm fragnades.

A machine using scrap metal as replacement or reattaching components is not self repairing , its scavenging for components to repair.

The t1000 self repairs , the t3000 self repairs , the t800 does not.

In a battle t800 cant repair , and he can barely repair out of battle , and so far has only shown ghetto improvised repair.

Lol , humans die when they get shot at , t800 also dies when he gets a steel beam trough his battery , and that aint even a weapon!

Id also like to see him repair without arms , surely he can do it cause hes so advanced right?

Hes so godly , getting some cheap produced steel beam trough his expensive alloy armor plate and coming out the other side and havig to resort to an extra temporary battery to survive , and even then be barely able to walk , or barel aim a grenade launcher...

There are people who survived multiple steel beams trough their chest , t800 did not survive 1.

He got staggered so badly he couldnt even think , by just some laser sword , there are things that completely outshadow said sword.

And the magnet gloves ran out?

Just because your phone runs ot of battery doesnt mean a nuclear power plant will run out of energy in the same time interval.

Seriously , far stronger magnets can be kept up for thousands of years , with almost no energy wasted , and its not like they cant be replaced after said thousand years.

And yes , nanobots have been here for a long while , tough they're currently doing less offensive things , since real life nanobots are far more dangerous than skynet , offensive nanobots are basically prohibited.

Your t3000 life wouldnt be so fun , youd get electromagnetically tracked a few kilometers away , and infiltration would be impossible ,

So yeah , no sneaksy doodling around, and also , your not a pack mule , your a t3000 and using a truck to carry all that stuff wont work , since you will repeatedly have all your possessions shot at by UAV drones , and all your bases shot at by anti bunker missiles , you aint even gonna build a toaster without it exploding on you.

And after all of that , some smart guy would just magnet you into a vortex , and once again , a washing machine's life for you.

Oh , and all your attempts to steal their weaponry would only lead you into some magnetic trap , and then humans will laugh at you and throw you into space , where you sill spend your following few billion years of battery life regreting your decisions.

The only reason t3000 was ok in the movie was only because the world didnt know he existed and he was undercover as john...

The t1000 in the movie was very primitive , real life programmable matter would make t3000 sound like child's play...

@roberto alvarenga:

I worked in a press room. If handcuffed, I could crush an army of people. All at once? No. One at a time? Absolutely.

The T-800 was never dented by a 40mm fragnades, he's been hit with AK47 full autos which would penatrate through steel far better than that... Still the 800 recieved no scratch let alone dents.

The armys gonna put the T-800 in a press? Yes they'll have to crawl underneath it first which will cause another TERMINATOR to activate it and kill then first. And you know what? They'd prolly make you watch...lol

That T-800 wasn't the same T-800 that was taken out by a Barret. It was a far weaker one than the ones seen in T1-4 plus it was a CGI Arnold T-800. Not the real Arnold T-800. And the humans would be in pieces If hit by one of those.

Plus this fight doesn't involve a T-800. That Barret wouldn't do squat to a T-3000. John would laugh and beg em to do it more so hed have more to laugh at.

Name a human who survived all of what the T-800 has survived.

Shot

Stabbed through his power source.

Run over by a tanker truck

Dropped from insane heights 368 feet high in the sky.

Electrucuted

Plasma blast

Grenade launchers

And name one person who got up from a gas truck explosion? Your not fooling anyone with your non sense.

The T-800 self repairs. He fixed his knee, he did eye surgery and arm surgery on himself. That's self repair. What kind of classes did u take in school? Or had u not seen a movies, just pieces and don't know a thing.

T-1000's and T-3000's who are in this fight have better healing factors than a T-800 and your point is what?

The T-800 did recover his arm in the last movie when he upgraded to a liquid model. What Human has done that? None. My brother lost half of his foot back in 2007 but they sure couldn't repair it. Yet machines can...hahaha

They can't build a nano tech machine. Its to possible. Troll some more.

Yup and when I put that equipment in my truck, and get shot at, blown up at like John did, I'll just recover in seconds like john did and blow them away too and they won't be back because humans can't come back. He killed 2 cops in a police station while disguised as an agent.

Yes he was undercover aw John and as stated, he can become undercover as a soldier from the base too. And kill the humans from there.

The nano technology isn't a T-3000. Its made out of turds that the T-3000 would spoon feed into every u.s. soldiers mouth.