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#1 Posted by InnerAssassin (308 posts) - - Show Bio

Sylar from the show Heroes vs Matt, Andrew, and Steve.

Sylar has all his powers throughout the series. He is also bloodlusted while the team is in character. Both start 25 ft apart.

Who wins?

#2 Posted by Mr_Ingenuity (7173 posts) - - Show Bio

Stomp/spite.

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#3 Posted by InnerAssassin (308 posts) - - Show Bio

@Mr_Ingenuity: In whose favor and why?

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#5 Posted by InnerAssassin (308 posts) - - Show Bio

@Mr_Ingenuity: Sir i am on Season 3 of Heroes but you don't think 3 strong telepaths combined could take him down?

#6 Posted by theONEtaichou (1506 posts) - - Show Bio

Sylar! Its spite... The powers Sylar has even similar to the teens are far more advanced, far more powerful and he is far better at using them... He probably slices the black teen first (yeah I went there) and figures out how their powers work and kills the rest for fun

#7 Posted by Mr_Ingenuity (7173 posts) - - Show Bio

@InnerAssassin: They are not telepaths they have telekinesis but have empathy powers to each other. But non can survive electricity(Steve Montgomery died from a lighting bolt).

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#8 Posted by InnerAssassin (308 posts) - - Show Bio

@Mr_Ingenuity: My mistake telekinesis always get em mixed up.

MAtt and Andrew seemed pretty strong?

#9 Posted by Bossmonster (2166 posts) - - Show Bio

@Mr_Ingenuity said:

Stomp/spite.

This. I just don't understand why anyone would fight a bloodlusted Sylar.

#10 Posted by Mr_Ingenuity (7173 posts) - - Show Bio

@InnerAssassin: But Sylar has Claire Bennet's power to heal.

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#11 Posted by InnerAssassin (308 posts) - - Show Bio

@Mr_Ingenuity: Still couldn't he beat K/O?

#12 Posted by Mr_Ingenuity (7173 posts) - - Show Bio
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#13 Posted by LordOfAllHumans (3909 posts) - - Show Bio

The three of them should be able to take him. The only powers he has that can affect more than one person at a time are his tk (which is not as strong as the boys, especially the two that survived to battle in the end) and Teds power (which he seemed to have no control over), which charges up and IMO they can fly fast and far enough to avoid that. Sylar can heal, but that doesn't stop him from feeling pain. Most people he beats in the show seem to act really dumb when he's around allowing him to get the jump on them. Like the guy Trevor he got the shattering power from, the moment Elle blasted Sylar, his tk hold on Trevor is broken, instead of Trevor using his powers on the now surprised Sylar that is talking to and focusing on Elle, he does nothing but allow Sylar to re-tk him, after Elle runs away.

#14 Posted by Mr_Ingenuity (7173 posts) - - Show Bio

@LordOfAllHumans: Look above.

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#15 Posted by InnerAssassin (308 posts) - - Show Bio

@Mr_Ingenuity: Sir that was a totally different character?

#16 Posted by Mr_Ingenuity (7173 posts) - - Show Bio

@InnerAssassin: Considering Sylar absorbed that power & has control that feat is valid.

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#17 Posted by InnerAssassin (308 posts) - - Show Bio

@Mr_Ingenuity: Fair enough. Sir without spoiling is Season 4 of Heroes worth watching?

#18 Posted by Mr_Ingenuity (7173 posts) - - Show Bio

@InnerAssassin: The villain & end is meh but you see more character development.

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#19 Posted by InnerAssassin (308 posts) - - Show Bio

@Mr_Ingenuity: Hmm okay well thank you

#20 Posted by BMEZY (1206 posts) - - Show Bio

What powers does Sylar have here. I know what the OP said, but I would still like some clarification.

#21 Posted by LordOfAllHumans (3909 posts) - - Show Bio

@Mr_Ingenuity said:

@LordOfAllHumans: Look above.

Except when Peter actually does explode the city was protected because he was taken airborne and that happened because Nathan saw him glowing and charging, the boys can fly far and fast enough to avoid it.

#22 Posted by Mr_Ingenuity (7173 posts) - - Show Bio

@LordOfAllHumans: Really don't see a possibility for the Team. I have seen both Chronicle & Heroes (though remember far less of heroes).

Sylar has flight a healing factor & instakill powers making him far to versatile & deadly. Plus he is blood lust.

Also the Team takes shared damage. If one is killed I don't think their powers can cope for that amount of pain.

could do a better job of explaining.

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#23 Posted by LordOfAllHumans (3909 posts) - - Show Bio

@Mr_Ingenuity said:

@LordOfAllHumans: Really don't see a possibility for the Team. I have seen both Chronicle & Heroes (though remember far less of heroes).

Sylar has flight a healing factor & instakill powers making him far to versatile & deadly. Plus he is blood lust.

Also the Team takes shared damage. If one is killed I don't think their powers can cope for that amount of pain.

could do a better job of explaining.

I've seen them both too, and that explosion power is not instant and can be avoided. When Peter really did explode, he was taken into the air and the city was spared, those boys can fly high and fast enough to not be effected at all.

He as only been shown to instakill people one at a time usually through telekinetically immobilizing them and it works best on characters that need their limbs to focus their powers. They are more powerful than he is telekinetically and as shown with Elle taking a hit releases anybody he is holding. So he grabs one of them and another attacks him and drops whomever he is holding.

Andrew and Matt were not shown to take any damage when Steve was killed, and Matt was fine when he killed Andrew except for the beating he took during the actual fight. Matt and Steve seemed to share some kind of connection to Andrew when he was distraught, and it only caused a nose bleed in Matt, Steve only heard a voice and was able to locate Andrew. I don't see that being a deciding factor. They have more than enough power to rip Sylar to pieces, his healing factor is not so instant that he will just come back together and crazy ass Andrew is bloodlusted almost by nature, as having powers drive him insane.

#24 Posted by Shawnbaby (10419 posts) - - Show Bio

The boys were pretty strong....but not on Sylar's level.

#25 Edited by LordOfAllHumans (3909 posts) - - Show Bio

@Shawnbaby said:

The boys were pretty strong....but not on Sylar's level.

They are beyond his level when it comes to his most used power, he has no tk feats even close to them, all the rest of his powers can be avoided, because he can only use his other offensive powers on one person at a time, with the exception of Teds power which warns you when it is going to be used and requires build up to cause major wide spread damage. His tk can be used on more than one, but they can over power it, individually let alone collectively. They could BFR him while he charges up and his tk and flight should not be powerful enough to fight them doing it, as these boy love just flinging things about, and creating force fields to protect themselves from telekinetically flung buses and such.

#26 Posted by Shawnbaby (10419 posts) - - Show Bio

@LordOfAllHumans said:

@Shawnbaby said:

The boys were pretty strong....but not on Sylar's level.

They are beyond his level when it comes to his most used power, he has no tk feats even close to them, all the rest of his powers can be avoided, because he can only use his other offensive powers on one person at a time, with the exception of Teds power which warns you when it is going to be used and requires build up to cause major wide spread damage. His tk can be used on more than one, but they can over power it, individually let alone collectively.

He can heal through the damage they dish out...they cannot heal through the damage he can dish out.

#27 Posted by AllStarSuperman (20007 posts) - - Show Bio

Sylar wins he has tk, radiation, lightning, healing, melting and maybe more powers that I don't remember.

#28 Edited by LordOfAllHumans (3909 posts) - - Show Bio

@Shawnbaby said:

@LordOfAllHumans said:

@Shawnbaby said:

The boys were pretty strong....but not on Sylar's level.

They are beyond his level when it comes to his most used power, he has no tk feats even close to them, all the rest of his powers can be avoided, because he can only use his other offensive powers on one person at a time, with the exception of Teds power which warns you when it is going to be used and requires build up to cause major wide spread damage. His tk can be used on more than one, but they can over power it, individually let alone collectively.

He can heal through the damage they dish out...they cannot heal through the damage he can dish out.

@Shawnbaby said:

@LordOfAllHumans said:

@Shawnbaby said:

The boys were pretty strong....but not on Sylar's level.

They are beyond his level when it comes to his most used power, he has no tk feats even close to them, all the rest of his powers can be avoided, because he can only use his other offensive powers on one person at a time, with the exception of Teds power which warns you when it is going to be used and requires build up to cause major wide spread damage. His tk can be used on more than one, but they can over power it, individually let alone collectively.

He can heal through the damage they dish out...they cannot heal through the damage he can dish out.

What damage is he gonna dish that they can't shield from? They seem to be pretty durable anyway, considering the fight at the end, Andrew survived an explosion and still went on a rampage fighting his cousin slamming each other all through the city without succumbing to any injuries, they just kept fighting. The only thing that killed Steve was actual lightning and falling from that height and it's implied that Andrew actually had more to do with that then it just being a natural bolt, because you heard that noise that you hear when they use their powers at high levels right before Steve is hit.

#29 Posted by Shawnbaby (10419 posts) - - Show Bio

@LordOfAllHumans said:

@Shawnbaby said:

@LordOfAllHumans said:

@Shawnbaby said:

The boys were pretty strong....but not on Sylar's level.

They are beyond his level when it comes to his most used power, he has no tk feats even close to them, all the rest of his powers can be avoided, because he can only use his other offensive powers on one person at a time, with the exception of Teds power which warns you when it is going to be used and requires build up to cause major wide spread damage. His tk can be used on more than one, but they can over power it, individually let alone collectively.

He can heal through the damage they dish out...they cannot heal through the damage he can dish out.

@Shawnbaby said:

@LordOfAllHumans said:

@Shawnbaby said:

The boys were pretty strong....but not on Sylar's level.

They are beyond his level when it comes to his most used power, he has no tk feats even close to them, all the rest of his powers can be avoided, because he can only use his other offensive powers on one person at a time, with the exception of Teds power which warns you when it is going to be used and requires build up to cause major wide spread damage. His tk can be used on more than one, but they can over power it, individually let alone collectively.

He can heal through the damage they dish out...they cannot heal through the damage he can dish out.

What damage is he gonna dish that they can't shield from? They seem to be pretty durable anyway, considering the fight at the end, Andrew survived an explosion and still went on a rampage fighting his cousin slamming each other all through the city without succumbing to any injuries, they just kept fighting. The only thing that killed Steve was actual lightning and falling from that height and it's implied that Andrew actually had more to do with that then it just being a natural bolt, because you heard that noise that you hear when they use their powers at high levels right before Steve is hit.

Sylar can Disintegrate them. They can't recover from that.

He can also fire Electricity...which is, as you have just mentioned, effective against them.

He has Freezing Blasts, Alchemy, Radiation blasts (he can use them for more than just to explode), A healing Factor that makes him immortal.

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@AllStarSuperman said:

Sylar wins he has tk, radiation, lightning, healing, melting and maybe more powers that I don't remember.

His tk is nowhere close to their league. He has shown no control over his radiation to use it effectively and it is most effective as a bomb which has a very noticeable buildup so it can be avoided, they can fly farther than it can reach, as shown when Peter was taken high enough to not touch anything on the ground. His healing is not instant enough to keep him from being torn limb from limb. There is nothing to suggest his melting works on organic material and it requires physical contact. His other powers are in a link on the first page and don't seem to add much.

#31 Posted by RobocopSlayerT800 (2341 posts) - - Show Bio

@theONEtaichou said:

Sylar! Its spite... The powers Sylar has even similar to the teens are far more advanced, far more powerful and he is far better at using them... He probably slices the black teen first (yeah I went there) and figures out how their powers work and kills the rest for fun

this.

#32 Posted by AllStarSuperman (20007 posts) - - Show Bio

@LordOfAllHumans said:

@AllStarSuperman said:

Sylar wins he has tk, radiation, lightning, healing, melting and maybe more powers that I don't remember.

His tk is nowhere close to their league. He has shown no control over his radiation to use it effectively and it is most effective as a bomb which has a very noticeable buildup so it can be avoided, they can fly farther than it can reach, as shown when Peter was taken high enough to not touch anything on the ground. His healing is not instant enough to keep him from being torn limb from limb. There is nothing to suggest his melting works on organic material and it requires physical contact. His other powers are in a link on the first page and don't seem to add much.

they dont fly as fast as nathan

#33 Posted by LordOfAllHumans (3909 posts) - - Show Bio

@AllStarSuperman said:

@LordOfAllHumans said:

@AllStarSuperman said:

Sylar wins he has tk, radiation, lightning, healing, melting and maybe more powers that I don't remember.

His tk is nowhere close to their league. He has shown no control over his radiation to use it effectively and it is most effective as a bomb which has a very noticeable buildup so it can be avoided, they can fly farther than it can reach, as shown when Peter was taken high enough to not touch anything on the ground. His healing is not instant enough to keep him from being torn limb from limb. There is nothing to suggest his melting works on organic material and it requires physical contact. His other powers are in a link on the first page and don't seem to add much.

they dont fly as fast as nathan

What is this based on? How is it relevant? They can reach a destination fast and far enough before he explodes, because you can see him charging up to do it, they don't have to be as fast as Nathan (which is not proven), they just need to be faster than him exploding, which seems entirely impossible.

#34 Posted by AllStarSuperman (20007 posts) - - Show Bio

@LordOfAllHumans said:

@AllStarSuperman said:

@LordOfAllHumans said:

@AllStarSuperman said:

Sylar wins he has tk, radiation, lightning, healing, melting and maybe more powers that I don't remember.

His tk is nowhere close to their league. He has shown no control over his radiation to use it effectively and it is most effective as a bomb which has a very noticeable buildup so it can be avoided, they can fly farther than it can reach, as shown when Peter was taken high enough to not touch anything on the ground. His healing is not instant enough to keep him from being torn limb from limb. There is nothing to suggest his melting works on organic material and it requires physical contact. His other powers are in a link on the first page and don't seem to add much.

they dont fly as fast as nathan

What is this based on? How is it relevant? They can reach a destination fast and far enough before he explodes, because you can see him charging up to do it, they don't have to be as fast as Nathan (which is not proven), they just need to be faster than him exploding, which seems entirely impossible.

so they fly away? then how do you think they will be able to kill sylar

#35 Posted by LordOfAllHumans (3909 posts) - - Show Bio

@AllStarSuperman said:

@LordOfAllHumans said:

@AllStarSuperman said:

@LordOfAllHumans said:

@AllStarSuperman said:

Sylar wins he has tk, radiation, lightning, healing, melting and maybe more powers that I don't remember.

His tk is nowhere close to their league. He has shown no control over his radiation to use it effectively and it is most effective as a bomb which has a very noticeable buildup so it can be avoided, they can fly farther than it can reach, as shown when Peter was taken high enough to not touch anything on the ground. His healing is not instant enough to keep him from being torn limb from limb. There is nothing to suggest his melting works on organic material and it requires physical contact. His other powers are in a link on the first page and don't seem to add much.

they dont fly as fast as nathan

What is this based on? How is it relevant? They can reach a destination fast and far enough before he explodes, because you can see him charging up to do it, they don't have to be as fast as Nathan (which is not proven), they just need to be faster than him exploding, which seems entirely impossible.

so they fly away? then how do you think they will be able to kill sylar

I wasn't aware they had to kill him. I gave several ways they can KO, or generally incapacitate him with their superior tk.

#36 Posted by AllStarSuperman (20007 posts) - - Show Bio

@LordOfAllHumans said:

@AllStarSuperman said:

@LordOfAllHumans said:

@AllStarSuperman said:

@LordOfAllHumans said:

@AllStarSuperman said:

Sylar wins he has tk, radiation, lightning, healing, melting and maybe more powers that I don't remember.

His tk is nowhere close to their league. He has shown no control over his radiation to use it effectively and it is most effective as a bomb which has a very noticeable buildup so it can be avoided, they can fly farther than it can reach, as shown when Peter was taken high enough to not touch anything on the ground. His healing is not instant enough to keep him from being torn limb from limb. There is nothing to suggest his melting works on organic material and it requires physical contact. His other powers are in a link on the first page and don't seem to add much.

they dont fly as fast as nathan

What is this based on? How is it relevant? They can reach a destination fast and far enough before he explodes, because you can see him charging up to do it, they don't have to be as fast as Nathan (which is not proven), they just need to be faster than him exploding, which seems entirely impossible.

so they fly away? then how do you think they will be able to kill sylar

I wasn't aware they had to kill him. I gave several ways they can KO, or generally incapacitate him with their superior tk.

oh your right they dont have to kill him but sylar would definatly kill them if he got the chance

#37 Posted by LordOfAllHumans (3909 posts) - - Show Bio

@Shawnbaby said:

@LordOfAllHumans said:

@Shawnbaby said:

@LordOfAllHumans said:

@Shawnbaby said:

The boys were pretty strong....but not on Sylar's level.

They are beyond his level when it comes to his most used power, he has no tk feats even close to them, all the rest of his powers can be avoided, because he can only use his other offensive powers on one person at a time, with the exception of Teds power which warns you when it is going to be used and requires build up to cause major wide spread damage. His tk can be used on more than one, but they can over power it, individually let alone collectively.

He can heal through the damage they dish out...they cannot heal through the damage he can dish out.

@Shawnbaby said:

@LordOfAllHumans said:

@Shawnbaby said:

The boys were pretty strong....but not on Sylar's level.

They are beyond his level when it comes to his most used power, he has no tk feats even close to them, all the rest of his powers can be avoided, because he can only use his other offensive powers on one person at a time, with the exception of Teds power which warns you when it is going to be used and requires build up to cause major wide spread damage. His tk can be used on more than one, but they can over power it, individually let alone collectively.

He can heal through the damage they dish out...they cannot heal through the damage he can dish out.

What damage is he gonna dish that they can't shield from? They seem to be pretty durable anyway, considering the fight at the end, Andrew survived an explosion and still went on a rampage fighting his cousin slamming each other all through the city without succumbing to any injuries, they just kept fighting. The only thing that killed Steve was actual lightning and falling from that height and it's implied that Andrew actually had more to do with that then it just being a natural bolt, because you heard that noise that you hear when they use their powers at high levels right before Steve is hit.

Sylar can Disintegrate them. They can't recover from that.

He can also fire Electricity...which is, as you have just mentioned, effective against them.

He has Freezing Blasts, Alchemy, Radiation blasts (he can use them for more than just to explode), A healing Factor that makes him immortal.

How often has he disintegrated things, I've only ever seen it done on inorganic matter.

We don't know what killed Steven, it could have been the lightning but he was screaming so it didn't kill him right away, people without powers can survive it, he also then fell from several thousands feet, and was struck unawares. Sylar will be projecting bolts from his hand while facing them, and are they even as powerful as real lightning?

Same with the freezing. Is it a blast? when has he used it like that? Is it as powerful as Tracey, because hers are instant and we don't know if his is. What the range, because they like to fly when they fight.

Alchemy was never proven to work on inorganic matter, and it require touch.

What radiation blasts? Even Ted couldn't do that, and the little he learned about his power when creating an EMP it still was just him radiating outwards, and future Sylar IIRC correctly could only channel through punches.

He has a healing factor and his virtually immortal, but he is not invulnerable. He feels pain. He can be KOed and he can be incapacitated. How quick is his he gonna heal and get up to fight if Andrew decides to crush him like he did that car?

These boys can escape or protect themselves from most of their powers, they can create force fields, which is how they learned to fly and why Steve was not killed by getting hit by a plane. He is gonna start this fight the way he starts nearly everything, with tk, even bloodlusted, because it's what he does. The are gonna return with tk except they like to throw buses and cars and people into buildings with great force. They have more than enough power among the three of them to keep him in a constant state of pain and self repair, he's eventually gonna lose consciousness.

#38 Posted by LordOfAllHumans (3909 posts) - - Show Bio

@AllStarSuperman said:

@LordOfAllHumans said:

@AllStarSuperman said:

@LordOfAllHumans said:

@AllStarSuperman said:

@LordOfAllHumans said:

@AllStarSuperman said:

Sylar wins he has tk, radiation, lightning, healing, melting and maybe more powers that I don't remember.

His tk is nowhere close to their league. He has shown no control over his radiation to use it effectively and it is most effective as a bomb which has a very noticeable buildup so it can be avoided, they can fly farther than it can reach, as shown when Peter was taken high enough to not touch anything on the ground. His healing is not instant enough to keep him from being torn limb from limb. There is nothing to suggest his melting works on organic material and it requires physical contact. His other powers are in a link on the first page and don't seem to add much.

they dont fly as fast as nathan

What is this based on? How is it relevant? They can reach a destination fast and far enough before he explodes, because you can see him charging up to do it, they don't have to be as fast as Nathan (which is not proven), they just need to be faster than him exploding, which seems entirely impossible.

so they fly away? then how do you think they will be able to kill sylar

I wasn't aware they had to kill him. I gave several ways they can KO, or generally incapacitate him with their superior tk.

oh your right they dont have to kill him but sylar would definatly kill them if he got the chance

I agree with that, I just don't think he'll get the chance, he might at best take out one.

#39 Posted by Shawnbaby (10419 posts) - - Show Bio

@LordOfAllHumans said:

@Shawnbaby said:

@LordOfAllHumans said:

@Shawnbaby said:

@LordOfAllHumans said:

@Shawnbaby said:

The boys were pretty strong....but not on Sylar's level.

They are beyond his level when it comes to his most used power, he has no tk feats even close to them, all the rest of his powers can be avoided, because he can only use his other offensive powers on one person at a time, with the exception of Teds power which warns you when it is going to be used and requires build up to cause major wide spread damage. His tk can be used on more than one, but they can over power it, individually let alone collectively.

He can heal through the damage they dish out...they cannot heal through the damage he can dish out.

@Shawnbaby said:

@LordOfAllHumans said:

@Shawnbaby said:

The boys were pretty strong....but not on Sylar's level.

They are beyond his level when it comes to his most used power, he has no tk feats even close to them, all the rest of his powers can be avoided, because he can only use his other offensive powers on one person at a time, with the exception of Teds power which warns you when it is going to be used and requires build up to cause major wide spread damage. His tk can be used on more than one, but they can over power it, individually let alone collectively.

He can heal through the damage they dish out...they cannot heal through the damage he can dish out.

What damage is he gonna dish that they can't shield from? They seem to be pretty durable anyway, considering the fight at the end, Andrew survived an explosion and still went on a rampage fighting his cousin slamming each other all through the city without succumbing to any injuries, they just kept fighting. The only thing that killed Steve was actual lightning and falling from that height and it's implied that Andrew actually had more to do with that then it just being a natural bolt, because you heard that noise that you hear when they use their powers at high levels right before Steve is hit.

Sylar can Disintegrate them. They can't recover from that.

He can also fire Electricity...which is, as you have just mentioned, effective against them.

He has Freezing Blasts, Alchemy, Radiation blasts (he can use them for more than just to explode), A healing Factor that makes him immortal.

How often has he disintegrated things, I've only ever seen it done on inorganic matter.

We don't know what killed Steven, it could have been the lightning but he was screaming so it didn't kill him right away, people without powers can survive it, he also then fell from several thousands feet, and was struck unawares. Sylar will be projecting bolts from his hand while facing them, and are they even as powerful as real lightning?

Same with the freezing. Is it a blast? when has he used it like that? Is it as powerful as Tracey, because hers are instant and we don't know if his is. What the range, because they like to fly when they fight.

Alchemy was never proven to work on inorganic matter, and it require touch.

What radiation blasts? Even Ted couldn't do that, and the little he learned about his power when creating an EMP it still was just him radiating outwards, and future Sylar IIRC correctly could only channel through punches.

He has a healing factor and his virtually immortal, but he is not invulnerable. He feels pain. He can be KOed and he can be incapacitated. How quick is his he gonna heal and get up to fight if Andrew decides to crush him like he did that car?

These boys can escape or protect themselves from most of their powers, they can create force fields, which is how they learned to fly and why Steve was not killed by getting hit by a plane. He is gonna start this fight the way he starts nearly everything, with tk, even bloodlusted, because it's what he does. The are gonna return with tk except they like to throw buses and cars and people into buildings with great force. They have more than enough power among the three of them to keep him in a constant state of pain and self repair, he's eventually gonna lose consciousness.

n Don't Look Back, James Walker was found frozen solid, mid-bite. In Road Kill Sylar managed to coat a large stretch of highway with ice in seconds and in The Hard Part Sylar froze Hiro's sword to the point of shattering. These events indicate that he can rapidly freeze a human body or cause hundreds of cubic feet of ice to form from ambient moisture in seconds or decrease the temperature of metal to the point of breaking.

Sylar's disintegration power was only used against non-organics...however he used his Sound Manipulation to disintegrate an entire body in the episode Viewpoints

In the episode, The Golden Goose. Bob turned Hampton Connolly into gold.

Ted was able to make Fireballs with his Radiation. He could also focus it at specific objects.

#40 Posted by LordOfAllHumans (3909 posts) - - Show Bio

@Shawnbaby said:

@LordOfAllHumans said:

@Shawnbaby said:

@LordOfAllHumans said:

@Shawnbaby said:

@LordOfAllHumans said:

@Shawnbaby said:

The boys were pretty strong....but not on Sylar's level.

They are beyond his level when it comes to his most used power, he has no tk feats even close to them, all the rest of his powers can be avoided, because he can only use his other offensive powers on one person at a time, with the exception of Teds power which warns you when it is going to be used and requires build up to cause major wide spread damage. His tk can be used on more than one, but they can over power it, individually let alone collectively.

He can heal through the damage they dish out...they cannot heal through the damage he can dish out.

@Shawnbaby said:

@LordOfAllHumans said:

@Shawnbaby said:

The boys were pretty strong....but not on Sylar's level.

They are beyond his level when it comes to his most used power, he has no tk feats even close to them, all the rest of his powers can be avoided, because he can only use his other offensive powers on one person at a time, with the exception of Teds power which warns you when it is going to be used and requires build up to cause major wide spread damage. His tk can be used on more than one, but they can over power it, individually let alone collectively.

He can heal through the damage they dish out...they cannot heal through the damage he can dish out.

What damage is he gonna dish that they can't shield from? They seem to be pretty durable anyway, considering the fight at the end, Andrew survived an explosion and still went on a rampage fighting his cousin slamming each other all through the city without succumbing to any injuries, they just kept fighting. The only thing that killed Steve was actual lightning and falling from that height and it's implied that Andrew actually had more to do with that then it just being a natural bolt, because you heard that noise that you hear when they use their powers at high levels right before Steve is hit.

Sylar can Disintegrate them. They can't recover from that.

He can also fire Electricity...which is, as you have just mentioned, effective against them.

He has Freezing Blasts, Alchemy, Radiation blasts (he can use them for more than just to explode), A healing Factor that makes him immortal.

How often has he disintegrated things, I've only ever seen it done on inorganic matter.

We don't know what killed Steven, it could have been the lightning but he was screaming so it didn't kill him right away, people without powers can survive it, he also then fell from several thousands feet, and was struck unawares. Sylar will be projecting bolts from his hand while facing them, and are they even as powerful as real lightning?

Same with the freezing. Is it a blast? when has he used it like that? Is it as powerful as Tracey, because hers are instant and we don't know if his is. What the range, because they like to fly when they fight.

Alchemy was never proven to work on inorganic matter, and it require touch.

What radiation blasts? Even Ted couldn't do that, and the little he learned about his power when creating an EMP it still was just him radiating outwards, and future Sylar IIRC correctly could only channel through punches.

He has a healing factor and his virtually immortal, but he is not invulnerable. He feels pain. He can be KOed and he can be incapacitated. How quick is his he gonna heal and get up to fight if Andrew decides to crush him like he did that car?

These boys can escape or protect themselves from most of their powers, they can create force fields, which is how they learned to fly and why Steve was not killed by getting hit by a plane. He is gonna start this fight the way he starts nearly everything, with tk, even bloodlusted, because it's what he does. The are gonna return with tk except they like to throw buses and cars and people into buildings with great force. They have more than enough power among the three of them to keep him in a constant state of pain and self repair, he's eventually gonna lose consciousness.

n Don't Look Back, James Walker was found frozen solid, mid-bite. In Road Kill Sylar managed to coat a large stretch of highway with ice in seconds and in The Hard Part Sylar froze Hiro's sword to the point of shattering. These events indicate that he can rapidly freeze a human body or cause hundreds of cubic feet of ice to form from ambient moisture in seconds or decrease the temperature of metal to the point of breaking.

Sylar's disintegration power was only used against non-organics...however he used his Sound Manipulation to disintegrate an entire body in the episode Viewpoints

In the episode, The Golden Goose. Bob turned Hampton Connolly into gold.

Ted was able to make Fireballs with his Radiation. He could also focus it at specific objects.

He had Hiros sword in his hands when he froze it and didn't freeze James Walker on screen. So far we have him opening a door and making a road slick, it's a blast, you got a scan of how much ice it created, because he touched the sword to get it that cold.

When did he do that in Viewpoints and who did he do it to? The guy (Dennis) he killed in Viewpoint that left a skeleton, left a smoldering one, doesn't sound like sound manipulation did that, he used tk on everybody else.

Bobs power still requires touch.

That doesn't mean Sylar can (Ted ability, of which Ted had little to know control he made fireballs that he never launched and that is not the same as a blast) he didn't have it long enough before he was stabbed and then lost those powers to the virus and only future Sylar was shown channeling the energy in a punch.

All of this info is from a Heroes wiki, the ice part is speculation, the sound thing only seemed to have happened on the sound manipulation page because you can script for viewpoints and there is no mention of sound manipulation, only smoldering skeleton and tk choking.

#41 Posted by Sherlock (7239 posts) - - Show Bio
@Mr_Ingenuity: What needs explaining? 
 
I would like to say iv never seen Chronicle or even heard of it. 
 
Sylars radiation powers keep coming up here.@LordOfAllHumans: Has said several times that the trio can fly fast and far enough to avoid the blast.In the episode with Future Gabriel,Sylar destroys the entire city they were in killing everyone there including Daphne who was a speedster.If she couldnt outrun the blast i sincerely doubt these guys could
#42 Posted by ComocYahweh (661 posts) - - Show Bio

@Sherlock said:

@Mr_Ingenuity: What needs explaining?

I would like to say iv never seen Chronicle or even heard of it.

Sylars radiation powers keep coming up here.@LordOfAllHumans: Has said several times that the trio can fly fast and far enough to avoid the blast.In the episode with Future Gabriel,Sylar destroys the entire city they were in killing everyone there including Daphne who was a speedster.If she couldnt outrun the blast i sincerely doubt these guys could

Watch Chronicle, it's a good movie. Also only Tk wise team wins pretty easy, but Sylar has regen so not sure what they could do to kill him.

#43 Posted by LordOfAllHumans (3909 posts) - - Show Bio

@Sherlock said:

@Mr_Ingenuity: What needs explaining?

I would like to say iv never seen Chronicle or even heard of it.

Sylars radiation powers keep coming up here.@LordOfAllHumans: Has said several times that the trio can fly fast and far enough to avoid the blast.In the episode with Future Gabriel,Sylar destroys the entire city they were in killing everyone there including Daphne who was a speedster.If she couldnt outrun the blast i sincerely doubt these guys could

Daphne like every other idiot in that room actually watched him build up a charge and waited for him to explode. I have also stated that you can see him charge up, they have the speed and lift to get far enough to avoid the explosion, the way Nathan was fast enough to grab Peter and take him far enough to not destroy the city.

#44 Posted by Pyrogram (35110 posts) - - Show Bio

Sylar stomps

#45 Edited by LordOfAllHumans (3909 posts) - - Show Bio

@ComocYahweh said:

@Sherlock said:

@Mr_Ingenuity: What needs explaining?

I would like to say iv never seen Chronicle or even heard of it.

Sylars radiation powers keep coming up here.@LordOfAllHumans: Has said several times that the trio can fly fast and far enough to avoid the blast.In the episode with Future Gabriel,Sylar destroys the entire city they were in killing everyone there including Daphne who was a speedster.If she couldnt outrun the blast i sincerely doubt these guys could

Watch Chronicle, it's a good movie. Also only Tk wise team wins pretty easy, but Sylar has regen so not sure what they could do to kill him.

This is not to the death, they have more than enough power to KO him.

@Pyrogram said:

Sylar stomps

How? Radiation? They can get away. His other powers either only work on one person at a time, require touch or have no offensive capabilities. He will attack first telekinetically like he always does (even bloodlusted), and they will show him what real tk is. He can heal, but like I said they can keep him in a constant state of repair and pain (which he feels) he is not indestructible and can be KOed and that is all they need to do to win.

#46 Posted by Pyrogram (35110 posts) - - Show Bio

@LordOfAllHumans: wha? he has fought more than 1 at a time loads

#47 Posted by LordOfAllHumans (3909 posts) - - Show Bio

@Pyrogram said:

@LordOfAllHumans: wha? he has fought more than 1 at a time loads

Elaborate please.

#48 Posted by Pyrogram (35110 posts) - - Show Bio

@LordOfAllHumans: The final battle vsing like everybody... Including a guy who could stop time and he held his own for a while.

#49 Posted by LordOfAllHumans (3909 posts) - - Show Bio

@Pyrogram said:

@LordOfAllHumans: The final battle vsing like everybody... Including a guy who could stop time and he held his own for a while.

I still don't see your point. The "guy" who could stop time didn't do it, or Sylar would be dead because he has no counter to that. Hiro could have killed Sylar when he froze time, when Sylar was visiting his mother, but Hiro was not a killer. What power has Sylar used on multiple targets at once?

#50 Posted by Pyrogram (35110 posts) - - Show Bio

@LordOfAllHumans: Multiple slicing of their heads he could do like he done to multiple of those Swat members or whatever they are.