I'm honestly not sure how the Superman/Bizarro fight goes down, but I'm assuming it's very close and the winner comes out pretty hurt.
Hal beats Sinestro after a tough fight, and comes out somewhat hurt. Black Adam beats Captain Marvel after a tough fight, but also comes out somewhat hurt.
Then it's mostly Black Adam against a hurt Superman and Hal. I think BA would win that 6/10 times, if Superman is in bad shape.
@blackadamFTW: how Black Adam has repeated shown show that he is on superman's level or above in terms of strength, Hal had to depower Sinestro in Sinestro Corps war to beat him, Superman could probs take out bizarro but the other two are there to round on him
@dondave: Black Adam has shown to be above Superman, but Captain Marvel has consistently beaten him since his creation. In my book, Captain Marvel vs. Black Adam ends up in a win for Billy.
Not too sure about Sinestro vs. Green Lantern, but even if Hal loses, he keeps him preoccupied.
Superman vs. Bizarro ends in a pretty easy win for Supes. I don't think that Bizarro has ever beaten Supes, and if he has, Superman has beaten him a helluva lot more than he's beaten him.
team supes should win here...the villians's ego would get in their way even tho they have the raw physical attributes to actually win, it's the team work that tips team supes in favor in the end...
Team 1, in a very close fight. Ultimately, Bizzaro costs his team. The only one he can conceivably take a majority against is Billy, and that's still a hard fought win. Clark and Hal can take an ever so slight majority against any of Team 2, and Billy is just good enough to contend until help arrives. That's of course not including the teamwork advantage the heroes will have over the villains. It's very close, but Team 1 will edge it out 5.1/10.
All the characters are in the same weight class as their opposite reflections, meaning that morality, skill, and experience are what will decide the outcome. Superman is more skilled than Bizarro but too moral to kill, Bizarro has no restraint whatsoever. Sinestro is more experienced than Hal and is willing to Kill where Hal is not. Black Adam is more experienced, skilled, and is willing to kill, Captain marvel is not. If we're being realistic, Team 2 should win everytime to Team 1, because Team 2 has the same abilities but are generally more experienced and are willing to go all out to kill their enemy.
All the characters are in the same weight class as their opposite reflections, meaning that morality, skill, and experience are what will decide the outcome. Superman is more skilled than Bizarro but too moral to kill, Bizarro has no restraint whatsoever. Sinestro is more experienced than Hal and is willing to Kill where Hal is not. Black Adam is more experienced, skilled, and is willing to kill, Captain marvel is not. If we're being realistic, Team 2 should win everytime to Team 1, because Team 2 has the same abilities but are generally more experienced and are willing to go all out to kill their enemy.
Bizzaro is way to dumb to beat Clark, and holds back all of his power, as seen here:
Also Hal deafened Sinestro more times than not, and even so if Sinestro beats Hal Superman will destroy Bizzaro long before, and he is the MVP here. Being able to take anyone here down 1v1. Black Adam is the only one that the hero can't beat, and either Hal or Sups could solo him.
All the characters are in the same weight class as their opposite reflections, meaning that morality, skill, and experience are what will decide the outcome. Superman is more skilled than Bizarro but too moral to kill, Bizarro has no restraint whatsoever. Sinestro is more experienced than Hal and is willing to Kill where Hal is not. Black Adam is more experienced, skilled, and is willing to kill, Captain marvel is not. If we're being realistic, Team 2 should win everytime to Team 1, because Team 2 has the same abilities but are generally more experienced and are willing to go all out to kill their enemy.
Bizzaro is way to dumb to beat Clark, and holds back all of his power, as seen here:
Also Hal deafened Sinestro more times than not, and even so if Sinestro beats Hal Superman will destroy Bizzaro long before, and he is the MVP here. Being able to take anyone here down 1v1. Black Adam is the only one that the hero can't beat, and either Hal or Sups could solo him.
I agree that if we go by comic book logic Superman, Hal, and Captain Marvel will be victorious. They have all beaten there opposites more than once. If we're being realistic, the heroes' morality is a dangerous handicap against unstoppable and bloodthirsty enemies. Also, Sinestro and Black Adam are more experienced wielding their powers. Even if Superman defeated Bizarro, which would be difficult without killing him, he'd then face Sinestro and Black Adam at the same time, which is too much for the man of steel. Of course, this is only if you're being realistic. You're more than welcome to employ comic book logic and WIS, PIS, CIS to your heart's content.
I agree that if we go by comic book logic Superman, Hal, and Captain Marvel will be victorious. They have all beaten there opposites more than once. If we're being realistic, the heroes' morality is a dangerous handicap against unstoppable and bloodthirsty enemies. Also, Sinestro and Black Adam are more experienced wielding their powers. Even if Superman defeated Bizarro, which would be difficult without killing him, he'd then face Sinestro and Black Adam at the same time, which is too much for the man of steel. Of course, this is only if you're being realistic. You're more than welcome to employ comic book logic and WIS, PIS, CIS to your heart's content.
Sinestro has lost to Hal on multiple occasions, calling it comic book logic is a lame excuse, seriously lame, Hal has better feats, he is faster more versitly, bloodlust and lack of morals isn't every thing. Superman has casually stomped Bizarro in the past, BA is the only one that beats his arch nemesis and again he can't even take Hal or Supes alone.
I agree that if we go by comic book logic Superman, Hal, and Captain Marvel will be victorious. They have all beaten there opposites more than once. If we're being realistic, the heroes' morality is a dangerous handicap against unstoppable and bloodthirsty enemies. Also, Sinestro and Black Adam are more experienced wielding their powers. Even if Superman defeated Bizarro, which would be difficult without killing him, he'd then face Sinestro and Black Adam at the same time, which is too much for the man of steel. Of course, this is only if you're being realistic. You're more than welcome to employ comic book logic and WIS, PIS, CIS to your heart's content.
Sinestro has lost to Hal on multiple occasions, calling it comic book logic is a lame excuse, seriously lame, Hal has better feats, he is faster more versitly, bloodlust and lack of morals isn't every thing. Superman has casually stomped Bizarro in the past, BA is the only one that beats his arch nemesis and again he can't even take Hal or Supes alone.
I'm sorry but it is comic book logic. Good has to triumph over evil in comic books. They can't allow Bizarro and Sinestro to win, because they represent repellent views. Black Adam is only allowed to win because he isn't a straight-up villain but an anti-hero. All three of the villains are capable of the same Feats as their heroic counter-parts, the heroes usually win either through deus ex machina or a combination of WIS/CIS/PIS. I know I can't convince you of this, but take a closer look at the comics. The villains are written to be defeated by the heroes. There is no logic to their loss only morality.
I'm sorry but it is comic book logic. Good has to triumph over evil in comic books. They can't allow Bizarro and Sinestro to win, because they represent repellent views. Black Adam is only allowed to win because he isn't a straight-up villain but an anti-hero. All three of the villains are capable of the same Feats as their heroic counter-parts, the heroes usually win either through deus ex machina or a combination of WIS/CIS/PIS. I know I can't convince you of this, but take a closer look at the comics. The villains are written to be defeated by the heroes. There is no logic to their loss only morality.
Yes but this means that the heres are superior based on the fact that consistently win and have superior feats. Label it what you want but all of the evidence and feats in this sit come from comics, so it still stands.
I'm sorry but it is comic book logic. Good has to triumph over evil in comic books. They can't allow Bizarro and Sinestro to win, because they represent repellent views. Black Adam is only allowed to win because he isn't a straight-up villain but an anti-hero. All three of the villains are capable of the same Feats as their heroic counter-parts, the heroes usually win either through deus ex machina or a combination of WIS/CIS/PIS. I know I can't convince you of this, but take a closer look at the comics. The villains are written to be defeated by the heroes. There is no logic to their loss only morality.
Yes but this means that the heres are superior based on the fact that consistently win and have superior feats. Label it what you want but all of the evidence and feats in this sit come from comics, so it still stands.
Good always triumphing over evil is the foundation of all WIS, CIS, and PIS. You're supposed to move past simple morality and evaluate their abilities objectively. Objectively, the villains have at least all the same feats as the heroes and also have more bloodthirsty and brutal feats than the heroes. If you're being honest, they can do everything heroes can do and they are more brutal.
Matching Orion beating AMAZO, keeping up with Jay Garrick, one shooting power girl, and breaking Orion's constcruts, he also hits harder than the asteroid that killed the dinosaurs. This is a 1 million mega ton impact, and he hits harder than it.
Regardless Captain Marvel, and Adam have already stalemated 3 times.
The Power of SHAZAM graphic novel:
https://imgur.com/a/basjb
The Power of SHAZAM #47:
https://imgur.com/a/vXGaW
Hawkman #24 (It's a short fight, but they were still even):
Good always triumphing over evil is the foundation of all WIS, CIS, and PIS. You're supposed to move past simple morality and evaluate their abilities objectively. Objectively, the villains have at least all the same feats as the heroes and also have more bloodthirsty and brutal feats than the heroes. If you're being honest, they can do everything heroes can do and they are more brutal.
What feats? If a character beats another character consistently they are above that character, whether you like it or not. PIS is when something happens that shouldn't but a good guy winning isn't PIS just because they won, that is a moronic argument. Also whet are these feats that you keep talking about?
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