Actually Superman does have a lot of willpower, you would know this if you read the comics. I have never seen Wonder Woman move at super speed, not once. You can keep argueing that Wonder Woman is stronger than Superman, but let's set up a scenerio.
If someone holded a gun to your head, and said. "Who would win in a fight? Superman or Wonder Woman? If you answer wrong i will shoot you in the head." You would say Superman would win, because you want to cut the bull and say, "Superman would win." to save you life.
Actually Superman does have a lot of willpower, you would know this if you read the comics. I have never seen Wonder Woman move at super speed, not once. You can keep argueing that Wonder Woman is stronger than Superman, but let's set up a scenerio.
If someone holded a gun to your head, and said. "Who would win in a fight? Superman or Wonder Woman? If you answer wrong i will shoot you in the head." You would say Superman would win, because you want to cut the bull and say, "Superman would win." to save you life.
"In terms of magic, the one superhero i can think of that can give superman a run for his money, is Thor. What is Superman weak against? Magic. What is Thor? Magic."
@Edenial: What about black atom? In fact there are a lot of people who have the magic and power to fight superman. I personally believe that superman would win hands down and thats kind of acknowledged by the whole; the worlds in crisis...lets call superman. not wonderwoman. i also cant name many (if any) instances when batman called on wonder woman. when s**t hits the fan, who does he call on? Superman...As for the question of ethos, batman has probobly the best knowledge of superheroes and knows their weaknesses the best. Waller, luther, brainiac...all of those people also accredit superman as being the most powerful. name someone who worries more about wonder woman than superman in a fight....also BLACK ATOM WINS!!!
@WDW: This goes to show what Azzerrelo thinks of WW@CitizenBane said:
@WDW said:
@CitizenBane said:
@Libertyprime said:
LOL I found this in the internet anybody know where scan is from?
For Tomorrow. Later on, Diana got angry and tried to attack Kal. He grabbed her wrists and patiently told her to stfu.
Soon After Wonder Woman gets more angry and kicks superman out if his own CRIB
Really? Why don't you post the rest of the fight where Superman said he didn't even want to fight Diana, or perhaps later on when he was throwing planet-busting punches with Zod? You won't, because it doesn't fit with your delusion.
And there's also the Amazons Attack incident where Superman restrained Wonder Woman and flew her away from Hippolyta against her will.
I don´t take anything Azzerrelo writes with WW seriously.
There´s no point going to comics on this debate because it depends on the writers bias and what the writer knows about the character.
Superman wins. WW has less than 25% chances of winning.Superman has superb HTH skills (not so good as WW though) WW's resistance to fire will not be that effective, she will get pierced through the chest if Superman ampes-up his heat vision and no she won't have a chance to block with her gauntlets because Superman is way too fast for her.Her magical equipment won't do much either if she can't match Superman's speed.His strength is arguably vastly superior (judging by his feats) as well as his durability,Superman is invulnerable to everything whereas WW is only invulnerable to energy/elemental projection and blunt attacks(punches,maces,hammers e.t.c)Her reflexes are inferior-equal to Superman's and she is not as skilled in airborne combat as Superman .WW would only win if they fought in a solid kryptonite planet orbiting a red star lol!
It's never been seen before except for in Superman: Red Son, where it was Diana who broke out of her own lasso to save Superman from the Red sun-lamps.
I recall Mongul owning her ass well, then superman destroyed Mongul. :P
Are you referring to the opening of Infinite Crisis? Mongul never "owned" her, he basically smacked both of them away, Superman recovered quicker and assaulted Mongul with heat vision. Not really a fair assessment mate :)
@deranged_midget: I cant even post the pictures that's how many different versions of superman have kicked monguls behind, and wonder woman got tossed by him.
In this one superman stops WW from killing him with his two hands on her magic sword.
@thetruthnerds: Depends on the Mongul. The one you see who fought alongside and trained Superman to fight Imperiex was Mongul Jr, who in turn was weaker than his father, Mongul Sr. That was the Silver Age Mongul who regularly made a fool of Silver Age Superman.
I think the above "Mongul" post by thetruthnerds is actually is a reference to " For the Man Who has Everything" story. In that one..Mongul looks poised to kill WW, and Superman rescues her.
He probably thought Doomsday picked a rope or a chain or something....
Yeah,problem......
Stop bringing random irrelevant crap up when you are arguing....
So, it's irrelevant cus you don't want it to be relevant? Seems legit, we'll go with that ..... lol doomsday gonna put Superman the man of steel in a regular rope and chains lol....that's new.
No matter what every WW fanboy says,the answer is pretty much obvious here......
A non-holding back Supes would beat her sh!tless........
you mean like in sacrifice, when he was bloodlusted and he couldn't beat her sht less?
You forget Superman was brainwashed.He thought she was the god-damn Doomsday.He didn't expect a tiara at him.
Why does evey WW fanboy bring this up????
cus .... she tossed the lasso at him too, he wasn't expecting that either....
problem?
Maybe because she wasn't blood-lusted herself and mainly trying to contain him. I've always thought personally, that the Physical advantage Superman has over Wonder-Woman is not enough to mitigate her considerably superior skill.
Maybe because she wasn't blood-lusted herself and mainly trying to contain him. I've always thought personally, that the Physical advantage Superman has over Wonder-Woman is not enough to mitigate her considerably superior skill.
This is Pre-New 52 of course.
right, she did state she was holding back a little bit, yeah.....makes her victory a little sweeter ...
Maybe because she wasn't blood-lusted herself and mainly trying to contain him. I've always thought personally, that the Physical advantage Superman has over Wonder-Woman is not enough to mitigate her considerably superior skill.
This is Pre-New 52 of course.
Whatever physical difference they had in Pre-52 was miniscule at best, but it arguably changed when he let's loose as he is infamous for holding back a large portion of his strength. Her skill evened that out by a ridiculous degree though.
New 52 is a completely different story as she doesn't really have that many strength or physical feats to hold up against Superman.
He probably thought Doomsday picked a rope or a chain or something....
Yeah,problem......
Stop bringing random irrelevant crap up when you are arguing....
So, it's irrelevant cus you don't want it to be relevant? Seems legit, we'll go with that ..... lol doomsday gonna put Superman the man of steel in a regular rope and chains lol....that's new.
Ahhh,Doomsday could use the rope or the chain not to contain him,but to throw him away or something.By pure common sense which you seem to lack,if Superman knew it was WW,he would have stopped attacking her the moment he realized it.
Stop bringing up this fight........It's irrelevant.....
I have a verry relevant scan of Wonder Woman getting humiliated by Supes.
Also WW couldn't even beat the Mongul(Both of them). Superman has kicked the crap out of Mongul Jr twice and Mongul Sr once.
@stronger: So once again.........its irrelevant cus you want it to be........not good enough, Wonder Woman wins
Just leave comicvine in peace and stop posting your fanboy crap................
And for a time you know, I thought you knew the defference between a debater and a troll....Ironic cause your avatar says troll hunter....
Yeah, I know the difference,.....you don't....\
Trolling
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@stronger: So once again.........its irrelevant cus you want it to be........not good enough, Wonder Woman wins
Just leave comicvine in peace and stop posting your fanboy crap................
And for a time you know, I thought you knew the defference between a debater and a troll....Ironic cause your avatar says troll hunter....
Yeah, I know the difference,.....you don't....\
Trolling
Let me start of by explaining what trolling actually is! Trolling is a user who posts to incite flame wars and continues to post in a manner that is offensive or posting something that has nothing to do with the thread. Baiting other users into an argument and continuing that argument in hopes of offending that user or the community. As such this is not allowed on comicvine and will be dealt with according to the comcvine guide lines! again if you can not debate civilly and with out trying to ignite a flame war then comicvine is not the site for you.
@deranged_midget: i didn't egg him on, he called me a fanboy, said I lacked common sense, told me to leave comic vine, and then insinuated I was a troll.
Afterwards I didn't even respond back to him .... just posted a meme
@ancient_0f_days: So instead of leaving it alone, you decided to post a meme stating a supposed victory? I've read the comments between the two of you. You know better than to continually argue with someone and yes mate, you taunted him. Even if he was insinuating you were a fanboy or a troll, was it necessary to respond in a similar manner rather than simply ignoring it? If you have a problem with a user in the future, just flag them and let one of the mods handle it. Don't escalate the situation :)
I wouldn't say the physical difference was "minuscule" at best. He was definitely stronger than her, she was just more willing to use her power than he was.
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