"@comicdude23: yep though in most fights wonderwomans capable of standing up to superman with her indestructable gautlets "
They can shoot magical lightning.......but i don't see her using the lightning.....
"@comicdude23: yep though in most fights wonderwomans capable of standing up to superman with her indestructable gautlets "
" @comicdude23 said:" He's done that for a long time........ "Really? I remember him vibrating invisible, but that's hardly the same thing. "
I believe Supes phased during a fight with Doomsday, but even if Superman could render himself intangible by vibration, he rarely uses this tactic (and the same for vibrating invisible).
I love how much has been said about his widely developed ability of vibration and then when asked for evidence all that can be found scan of him doing it...
I'm unimpressed. A case can be made that he is simply evading the blows and leaving his afterimage, especially in the fourth panel when his head visibly moves. You're gonna have to do better.
"I love how much has been said about his widely developed ability of vibration and then when asked for evidence all that can be found scan of him doing it... I'm unimpressed. A case can be made that he is simply evading the blows and leaving his afterimage, especially in the fourth panel when his head visibly moves. You're gonna have to do better. "
"@comicdude23: yep he wouldnt vibrate threw wonderwomans blows as they wouldnt hurt enough for him to need too. Though if she gets the lasso on him he will thats what were talking about here isnt it since the lasso cant be broken. "
" @AtPhantom: ok heres something- you have to move backwards and forwards at light speed to vibrate instingable thats how people knew it was what he was doing it, but anyway hes vibrated on cyborb superman to shatter him, vibrated invisible to hide, also hes vibrated a few times against random enemies like holding someoen and vibrating to do serious damage, than supergirl can also vibrate invisible and threw things now. Vibratings just a trick they do as there skilled enough to do vibration techniques most likely off watching and getting taught of the flashs- well i know thats what happened with supergirl. I wouldnt be suprised if conner starts doing vibration tricks off being taught by bart "A few points.
" @comicdude23: yep he wouldnt vibrate threw wonderwomans blows as they wouldnt hurt enough for him to need too.What? Diana is perfectly capable of harming him with her blows.
I think Wonder Woman would give him trouble. I don't see Supes using his vibrating. But Supes should get through her equipment.
" @Silver2467: yep but his durability level can take a whole lot of her blows while hers cant take his "What makes you think that? Diana has withstood blows from Superman before, as well as others like Genocide, Zoom, Flash, Power Girl, Bizarro, and others. Why would she suddenly be incapable of resisting as many hits?
" @Silver2467: because when he hit her with a full power punch he knocked out and she went flying from space to earth leaving a crator than woke up,He knocked her unconscious as a result of the heat from the sun (only made more scorching by his heat vision),his being briefly sun-amped as a result of his close proximity to the sun, his blows, and her fall the entire distance back to earth. It was not simply his blow, and even if it was, that would be inconsistent anyway. A mind controlled Superman punched Wonder Woman directly in the back of the head in the Tenth Circle, and she stood up again. She has proven more than once as being durable enough to handle blows from characters in Clark's strength class (and Diana herself is in his weight class as well).
seeing him use freeze breathe on her. Than the stupidness starts where she got outa the ice (could be explained as vibrating outa the ice but not the point),How is that stupid? Do you honestly believe that Wonder Woman is not strong enough to break out of ice? LOL.
than she somehow sneaked up on him while he was focusing on her with super hearing and smashed her gauntlets on his head causing him to drop in pain since there magical gauntlets. But during the fights she hits him and he takes it but when he actually lays a hit on her it causes real damage and she needs to constantly block his attacks with the gauntlets "He did not simply "take it" as you claim. He was knocked back and harmed by her strikes, as he has been in some of their other fights. Also, during For Tomorrow, Wonder Woman resisted a blow from him without any legitimate noticeable injury.
" @comicdude23: yep he wouldnt vibrate threw wonderwomans blows as they wouldnt hurt enough for him to need too. Though if she gets the lasso on him he will thats what were talking about here isnt it since the lasso cant be broken. "One question, How is he going to be able to do that. Doesn't the lasso give WW power over those who are caught in it? I could be wrong I haven't read any WW for about 25 years.
" @Valtot said:" @comicdude23: yep he wouldnt vibrate threw wonderwomans blows as they wouldnt hurt enough for him to need too. Though if she gets the lasso on him he will thats what were talking about here isnt it since the lasso cant be broken. "One question, How is he going to be able to do that. Doesn't the lasso give WW power over those who are caught in it? I could be wrong I haven't read any WW for about 25 years. "
"Didn't stopped Bizarro from breaking it and beat her to a pulp. "Back the truck up for a minute.
I remember all fights with Superman and Wonder Woman, including ones with Superman brainwashed. Wonder Woman was NEVER KO'ed in a few hits... The fight Superman had against Wonder Woman in Absolute Power wouldn't count, because that was a different version of Wonder Woman, not the original one. All fights were either sparring matches, misunderstandings (like the one in the For Tomorrow arc, and in another arc where Wonder Woman defeated the Justice League members one by one) that didn't have a clear winner, or battles with Superman under the influence (Tenth Circle, Sacrifice, Witch and the Warrior pt. 2)." Superman takes this without much problem, in fact all of their fights when superman was serious it ended with 1, 2 or 3 blows from Superman and WW down
No. She's still Class 100. Whether or not she's as strong as her original incarnation is yet to be determined." BTW isn't current WW street lvl or something? "
" I don't understand these statements that Diana won't use her lightning ... if she is capable of doing it, she can do it in my opinion. How is anyone to say " nah, she just won't because I don't want her to." As if Superman is vibrating invisible every single issue ... but for some reason it's perfectly fine for him to do this in the battle. It doesn't matter, because there are other ways Diana could end this fight if she stuns Supes with her bracers' thunder clap and shatters his eardrums. Assuming she's allowed to do this also, unless people would like to nerf her for this fight once again and say they don't want her doing that to poor Superman. She could then take the opportunity to use her speed to ensnare him in her lasso while he's stunned. She could then use lightning, but if that's still too unfair for Superman, she could still just slit his throat open with her sword or tiara. I would like to see evidence of Superman vibrating through the Lasso of Truth. Even if evidence could be provided that he can vibrate through solid objects ... this is the unbreakable and mystically enchanted Lasso woven by the Gods. Is there any evidence Superman could vibrate through this, considering it isn't exactly the same as a brick wall?If not, then I would have to say, NO ... he cannot pass through it like it's some insignificant peice of silly string. I'm not saying that Superman cannot possibly win a fight with Diana, but people need to stop taking away powers from her and abilities that are rightfully hers ... to twist this fight into Superman's favor and make it seem as if she has no way of winning. "I agree.
"The two have fought several times. In the Tenth Circle, they basically stalemated. In Sacrifice, Superman was bloodlusted because of Max Lord, and he was dominating Diana because of this. She survived by escaping the fight and breaking Lord's hold over Supes' mind. In For Tomorrow, Wonder Woman challenged Clark while armed with her sword and shield, and Superman never even had any interest in fighting her. Despite this, he still gained the upper hand. Based on their track records, skill sets, and power sets, Wonder Woman could potentially win, but Superman should win a majority. "
In another showing, Bizarro breaking the Lasso and beating up Wonder Woman was in Trinity, and DC Elseworlds mini. It's not canon, at all, and within a different continuity. Using the mainstream New Earth continuity versions, Bizzaro has never fought Wonder Woman.I thought you said Trinity was canon.
" @PhoenixoftheTides: Disagree, You have to take consistent showings and character into count. And Supes has shown to be superior to her in a random encounter. "Kinda hard to find consistent showings for both - they are two of DC's most iconic characters, so unless we specify which Superman and Wonder Woman we are dealing with, it's pretty up in the air in terms of superiority. Is this Goddess of Truth WW, current Superman, or some other version? Also, it's not fair, IMHO, to take into account powers that Superman rarely uses or recent martial arts training without conceding that Wonder Woman has more martial arts experience and feats regarding same or powers that, even though rarely used, can match what Clark can pull out.
" @comicdude23 said:" @PhoenixoftheTides: Disagree, You have to take consistent showings and character into count. And Supes has shown to be superior to her in a random encounter. "Kinda hard to find consistent showings for both - they are two of DC's most iconic characters, so unless we specify which Superman and Wonder Woman we are dealing with, it's pretty up in the air in terms of superiority. Is this Goddess of Truth WW, current Superman, or some other version? Also, it's not fair, IMHO, to take into account powers that Superman rarely uses or recent martial arts training without conceding that Wonder Woman has more martial arts experience and feats regarding same or powers that, even though rarely used, can match what Clark can pull out. "
Wonder Woman has no combat feats..... Superman is a master martial artist..... "
" @comicdude23 said:Wonder Woman has no combat feats..... Superman is a master martial artist..... "I really hope you're joking, because Wonder Woman is acknowledged to be the best martial artist in the world by Batman, and is stated to be superior in these skills among the Big Three. "
"@comicdude23:
He's got to be kidding ... comic you aren't serious right? "Wonder Woman has no combat feats.....
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