Who would win?
Superman vs Wonder-Woman
Valkaad says:
"Her sword is sharp enough to cut him and I know she is a BA, but do you think she really has the strength and speed to go up against him. I mean if he HAD to kill her."
That's what happened with the whole Max Lord thing and though he very nearly killed her, she could have killed him too (she cut his throat, but kept him alive). I think Superman wins more often than not, but she can hold her own and it's within her power to pull some wins.
Buckshot says:
"That's what happened with the whole Max Lord thing and though he very nearly killed her, she could have killed him too (she cut his throat, but kept him alive). I think Superman wins more often than not, but she can hold her own and it's within her power to pull some wins."
I agree. It's fairly close but Superman would win the majority. That was a great fight by the way. Maybe one of Wonder Woman's best fights.
Valkaad says:
"G-Man says:"http://www.comicvine.com/message/superman-vs-wonder-woman-battle-of-the-sexes/17737/&c=89&89"Her sword is sharp enough to cut him and I know she is a BA, but do you think she really has the strength and speed to go up against him. I mean if he HAD to kill her."
If it's to the death, Superman loses. He's all high and mighty about not taking a life. Yes Wonder Woman has killed before (Max Lord) but she has just vowed that even one life is one life too many (in this week's issue). Soooooo maybe she wouldn't kill either? If push came to shove, she would kill before Supes would.
Forever says:
"She has magic items, her powers were granted to her by magic, and she was born out of magic."
so wouldn't that give her an advantage
spiderman0409 says:
"Forever says:"She has magic items, her powers were granted to her by magic, and she was born out of magic."so wouldn't that give her an advantage"
If she's using those items it would certainly help her out. She always has her tiara, bracelets and lasso, but if she has her sword with her then that makes her really dangerous.
Supes looks pretty beat to me. But I'd say he's faster and a bit stronger. He should be able to fly by, give her a little love tap and knock her out. It's close.
"Supes looks pretty beat to me. But I'd say he's faster and a bit stronger. He should be able to fly by, give her a little love tap and knock her out. It's close.
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She's smart enough to use the magic edge against him
and Diana is a better fighter
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Yeah I know the Ali thing is a Superman of another age
Not canon but retconed, the lil Superman writers with their inferiority complexes have since given Superman lots of ninja skills, he felt insignificant next to other fighters so Superman fly backwards in time to study ninja techniques in magical land and now he apparently has batman beat with 900 years martial arts training.
Diana as long as the writers don't include PIS should be able to take the majority against Superman
There's no telling if he still has that resistance that Phantom Stranger gave him. At the time, it was only effective against 'flaying winds' according to Superman. Even before that, Superman was resisting weaker forms of magic, but he's never been able to resist the power of the Lasso of Truth. Then, take into the equation her magic lightning from her bracelets, which is essentially Zeus' lightning. I think Wonder Woman now has greater chances of winning." @BatDance: Superman was granted a resistance to magic BUT you choose to ignore things like always. "
@Voidheart said:
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can someone show me her lightning ability, pls?
i really like how she used it and in what context
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can someone show me her lightning ability, pls?
i really like how she used it and in what context
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i got to still give it to clark or at least 50/50
to be honest i really dont see clark being able to out fight her but he has shown the strength to ko her in one hit..
"to be honest i really dont see clark being able to out fight her but he has shown the strength to ko her in one hit.."Most other times, she tanks all of his hits. Even when Superman is unleashed/brainwashed (there have been two instances), she was never KO'ed. KO'ing her in one hit when she's not looking or alert doesn't count.
" @castleking said:it kinda does... awareness of the attack should have no bearing to the person Ko resistance.."to be honest i really dont see clark being able to out fight her but he has shown the strength to ko her in one hit.."Most other times, she tanks all of his hits. Even when Superman is unleashed/brainwashed (there have been two instances), she was never KO'ed. KO'ing her in one hit when she's not looking or alert doesn't count. "
"it kinda does... awareness of the attack should have no bearing to the person Ko resistance.. "They. Weren't. Fighting. When. He. KO'ed. Her. Therefore. It. Doesn't. Count.
Whenever they do fight, he's never able KO her. Period. When he was brainwashed and bloodlusted to go all out against Wonder Woman by Circe, he fails to KO her. When he was brainwashed by Maxwell Lord in Infinite Crisis to think that Wonder Woman is Doomsday, he still can't KO her, even if he's fighting with the intention to kill her. In all other fights, it's the same thing.
" @castleking said:but like i said i would place them 50/50 and thats without the chance of his shown ability to ko her... adding the unlikely chance that a punch to the back of the head could do her in.."it kinda does... awareness of the attack should have no bearing to the person Ko resistance.. "They. Weren't. Fighting. When. He. KO'ed. Her. Therefore. It. Doesn't. Count. Whenever they do fight, he's never able KO her. Period. When he was brainwashed and bloodlusted to go all out against Wonder Woman by Circe, he fails to KO her. When he was brainwashed by Maxwell Lord in Infinite Crisis to think that Wonder Woman is Doomsday, he still can't KO her, even if he's fighting with the intention to kill her. In all other fights, it's the same thing. "
"adding the unlikely chance that a punch to the back of the head could do her in.. "He would never get the chance, not in battle. It's not like she can't keep up with him.
" @AngelFrost said:Haha, Thanks. :D" Wonder Woman would win this [: "I f@cking love you for this. :) "
love you tooo.
xoxo
" @AngelFrost said:...Maybe ...." Wonder Woman would win this [: "your a girl arent you?.. :/ "
and your a guy, aren't you? :P
it works both ways Mister.
either way, WW would still win.
Reality check guys, Superman is just way stronger and more durable than her and no amount of skill is going to make up for that difference. He's the one with the coal to diamond fusing grip here, not her. He's the one who is carrying the brunt of the weight on his shoulders and always saving the Universe by himself while Wonder Woman is simply delegated to a support hero. If she can beat him how come Superman humiliates her in a few panels when he "cuts loose"? How come she couldnt even hang with Mongul while Supes is humiliating Mongul like nobody's business? How come she didnt show up for the Doomsday incident...I don't think she can even take a punch from Doomsday since she cant even tank piercing attacks? Supes takes this 9/10 and the 1/10 is if Batman lends her some kryptonite, because that is the only way she has a chance.
If she can beat him how come Superman humiliates her in a few panels when he "cuts loose"? How come she couldnt even hang with Mongul while Supes is humiliating Mongul like nobody's business? How come she didnt show up for the Doomsday incident...I don't think she can even take a punch from Doomsday since she cant even tank piercing attacks? Supes takes this 9/10 and the 1/10 is if Batman lends her some kryptonite, because that is the only way she has a chance. "She's beaten Superman before, in Wonder Woman #175, when he was brainwashed by Circe. He was going all out, and he tried to kill her. But, she still won in the end. All other times they fought, they stalemated. As far as Mongul goes, maybe she can't compete with him, but that doesn't mean she can't take Superman. Even Superman has had a hard time with Mongul. She can't take Doomsday, that's been established already.
" @castleking said:Awesome. Sometimes putting your own foot in your mouth is the only move left to make. Wonder Woman wins this after Bats had slipped her his kryptonite ring... Not that she really needed it, but Diana thought it looked good on her all the same. Sorry, Supes... Call me a 'homer', but the earthling wins." @AngelFrost said:...Maybe .... and your a guy, aren't you? :P it works both ways Mister. either way, WW would still win. "" Wonder Woman would win this [: "your a girl arent you?.. :/ "
And yes, castleking, I AM an earthling. * __ *
In the mainstream Universe, it's relatively even (though I still think Superman comes out on top 8/10 times).
But in alternate-continuities, Superman is almost always shown as being completely out of WW's league. Eg: Frank Miller's All-Star Batman and Robin #5, Kingdom Come, and All-Star Superman.
" In the mainstream Universe, it's relatively even (though I still think Superman comes out on top 8/10 times). But in alternate-continuities, Superman is almost always shown as being completely out of WW's league. Eg: Frank Miller's All-Star Batman and Robin #5, Kingdom Come, and All-Star Superman. "Wonder Woman doesn't even appear in All-Star Superman. How can he be shown out her league?
As such, Wonder Woman stands no chance.
" @AtPhantom: Superman's strength is quoted as being like 200 quintillion tons, is immune to Kryptonite and takes on (their names escape me) I think Samson and Atlas with total ease. As such, Wonder Woman stands no chance. "Not really.
1. We have no idea how strong Atlas and Samson are.
2. Wonder woman can move 200 quintillion tons.
Fair enough. I didn't know that, the Wonder Woman moving 200.... thing.
Jolly good. =]
They're both great characters, two of the best, let's just hope they never fight again. =] Or, if they do, Darkseid shows up to tear them both apart.
" @FadeToBlackBolt said:Yeah, I agree completely." let's just hope they never fight again. =] Or, if they do, Darkseid shows up to tear them both apart. "That would bi like Christmas coming early for me. : ) "
My favourite DCAU quote:
"I am many things Kal-El... you cannot begin to imagine half of them... , but here I am God."
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