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superman vs thor captain marvel and hulk
Superman already can lift the earths weight for several days without a blue sun/sun dipped. Imagine his powers doubled. The team doesn't stand a chance. He just BFR's thor and kills hulk with his pinky. The real threat is captain marvel.
@thetruthnerds: He can't BFR Thor, sice thor can just fly back, Hulk can be though, and likely would be considering everyone here could punch the others into mid-space/orbit.
IMO, Team should take 6/10 via magic abilities and that they should be capable of somewhat dealing with him, even under doubled powers.
Thor's strongest Feat
Superman's strongest Feat (Debated because of canon) Imagine his power doubled lmao. He benched the earths weight for five days and could do more. C'mon people.
@dratini1331: but how? Thor is not that strong or fast compared to superman. Thor fans overrate him. Superman has countless feats showing his strength and speed. He has taken out plenty of characters that use magic. So Thor having magic is just a stone he needs to jump over. Captain Marvel is only a kid. He has the wisdom of Solomon, but he is rarely shown using it lol. Hulk is a non factor.
@dratini1331: but how? Thor is not that strong or fast compared to superman. Thor fans overrate him. Superman has countless feats showing his strength and speed. He has taken out plenty of characters that use magic. So Thor having magic is just a stone he needs to jump over. Captain Marvel is only a kid. He has the wisdom of Solomon, but he is rarely shown using it lol. Hulk is a non factor.
The guy with limitless strength and durability, who will go WBH since morals are off and there are no bystanders, is a non factor? Umm, no. He's only a non-factor if Superman flies away, which he should, since he's about to get smashed by the team.
@dratini1331: but how? Thor is not that strong or fast compared to superman. Thor fans overrate him. Superman has countless feats showing his strength and speed. He has taken out plenty of characters that use magic. So Thor having magic is just a stone he needs to jump over. Captain Marvel is only a kid. He has the wisdom of Solomon, but he is rarely shown using it lol. Hulk is a non factor.
The team isn't so flimsy that they wouldn't be able to take a few shots, and 2 of them are magical. Blue Sun doesn't change that Supes isn't protected from magic. Thor can still technically energy drain, though he really never uses that. Cap. Marvel can fight near evenly with Supes normally, and could take several hits, hulk just gets to play as the tank while thor and Cap Marvel deal the damage necessary to put him down.
@dratini1331: I would think, based off of the combination of Hulk's anger powers, incredible healing factor/durability, and the fact that no one cares about the Hulk, would make Hulk a very suitable meat shield. Captain Marvel could hold Hulk in front of him while the Bloodlusted Superman simply pounds away (very violent, indeed),and the Nordic god of Thunder would have enough time to summon forth one of his most powerful attacks (the "Kill-Superman" attacks).
Superman's doubled strength is like a chimpanzee attack on two men and a large dog. One man runs to get the shot gun while the dog buys the men time...with its life.
I'll say the team wins....but really though......what is Hulk doing here? Anyway ... Captain Marvel can barely take Superman on his own...
Thank god Thor is here, even though he's slower than either of them...seriously...The only shot that team has is BFR and that's it...Billy isn't holding or stalling Superman that long that Thor is gonna be able to one shot or even significantly damage Superman without missing his taget completely or hitting Captain Marvel in the process ... he has one shot to BFR Superman and I'm going to give it to the team based on that...really though...keep Hulk and other earth bound slow pokes like him away from people like Superman....unless you nerf them, he will never win or even be a factor. Really though....
Team wins 6/10
@xlr87t3: What if Superman heard Thor charging up, decided to move out of the way........no chance of Superman using his other super powers, or is he gonna just blindly beat on a green meat shield (lol) like a joe and totally not notice Thor at all?
@xlr87t3: Yea, that's basically what I'm thinking as well.
@xlr87t3: What if Superman heard Thor charging up, decided to move out of the way........no chance of Superman using his other super powers, or is he gonna just blindly beat on a green meat shield (lol) like a joe and totally not notice Thor at all?
The meat shield serves as a perfect distraction, considering it can try to perform melee with Supes (the madder Hulk, gets the stronger Hulk gets), plus incredible healing and durability. Superman's bloodlusted, so he's not just thinking normally with an intent to kill. He will gladly pound the green meat shield like a baboon on crack, and I will continue to call Hulk "the green meat shield" until he actually proves he can serve a better use. And I doubt anyone cares about his life...
The meat shield serves as a perfect distraction, considering it can try to perform melee with Supes (the madder Hulk, gets the stronger Hulk gets), plus incredible healing and durability. Superman's bloodlusted, so he's not just thinking normally with an intent to kill. He will gladly pound the green meat shield like a baboon on crack, and I will continue to call Hulk "the green meat shield" until he actually proves he can serve a better use. And I doubt anyone cares about his life...
Even blood-lusted....Superman never abandons his senses, he'd definitely see or hear Thor charging up and move out of the way, killing Hulk and Captain Marvel in the process...at the very least Superman could just blitz Captain Mavel before he even picks Hulk up...what then?
blue star doubles his power including his SPEED his already far faster than thor and hulk, and being bloodlusted he crushes team in seconds its funny how ppl even try to debate this sure they might actually stomp him if he was morals on but bloodlusted he blitz and one shots hulk, proceeds to beat the stuffing out of thor before cap can react to do anything efficient and then wat? its shazam solo, yeah superman stomps
@ancient_0f_days: Aww crap...well the wisdom of Solomon will keep Billy from being taken out too fast and if he manage to considerably temporarily hurt (with Solomon's knowledge) Superman for a few seconds he can fly over near the green meat shield where it could be a victim of Superman's wrath. I think being bloodlusted means you won't let off until the other guy's dead, so if Cap does go over to the meat shield, he might be subjected to being un-alived before the meat shield's turn. Don't forget the Area-of-Effect attacks that Thor can use from Mjolnir if Superman's dodging will be a issue (with Captain Marvel death, there's nothing holding him back).
@ancient_0f_days: Aww crap...well the wisdom of Solomon will keep Billy from being taken out too fast and if he manage to considerably temporarily hurt (with Solomon's knowledge) Superman for a few seconds he can fly over near the green meat shield where it could be a victim of Superman's wrath. I think being bloodlusted means you won't let off until the other guy's dead, so if Cap does go over to the meat shield, he might be subjected to being un-alived before the meat shield's turn. Don't forget the Area-of-Effect attacks that Thor can use from Mjolnir if Superman's dodging will be a issue (with Captain Marvel death, there's nothing holding him back).
Clark is faster than Billy and Billy isn't smart enough to use wisdom of Solomon at the very start, he never fights like that and he's never thought of it out of every time he's fought Clark. Even if he did use Wisdom of Solomon and went to grab Hulk or fly near him, Superman flies faster than Captain Marvel and would wreck him before he even got close to Hulk....even if Superman got involved with Hulk and got distracted...why wouldn't he hear or see Thor at any point during the battle and dodge a charged attack? Also, what are these AOE attacks you speak of that Thor has done...if they can't one shot Superman, Thor is going to be the main focus of Superman's attack, meaning he's getting blitzed by a stronger faster Superman.......
So a blood listed superman*2 vs regular blood listed Thor,shazam and hulk. So let's say shazam is fighting to the absolute beat of his ability, Thor is WM, and hulk is WB. They're all still MASSIVELY outclassed as far as speed and strength. In essence this wouldn't be a 3 on 1 it would be a series of 3 1v1 fights (or obliterations rather). So superman, who's senses will be increased two fold and at their peak will still see all three as statues and take them out one by one. And everyone keeps bringing up that "he will still be vulnerable to magic". So I'll address that now; let's make the assumption that anyone on the team could even see superman moving, which I highly doubt, and get a magical blast off on him. His durability goes up twofold as well. So what would have hurt him before has half the effect. This is a superman that very few could contend with. I see him labotomizing Thor and marvel almost immediately and then slapping hulk around until he decides to counter vibrate him out of existence. This, in my view, is a stomp.
Superman wins this with minimal effect, surprised people are even considering Thor, Captain Marvel and Hulk even winning this...
Superman under a Blue Sun would be too incredibly powerful for any of these 3 to take on in a fight. A Blue sun is usually 2 up from Yellow. it's Yellow, White then Blue. So actually Superman would around 3 times as powerful under the blue sun then he would under a yellow. Neither Caps, Thor or Hulk, with their amazing strength could hold Superman. His durability, strength, speed, reaction time, senses, would beyond their capable limits to defeat him. Basically it would be like 1 Superman with the strength of 3 Supermen. Superman has been shown in the comics to beat Captain Marvel, Thor and Hulk in the comics.
Captain Marvel's magic and Thors hammer, might provide more of a tickle or just annoy Superman even more. Hulk would be first to go out, Thor would be second and Captain Marvel last.
The team stomps
I got the team. Thor can nullify that blue sun thing real quick via drainage and Captain Marvel, Thor and Hulk can all take regular Superman in various ways.
These 2 videos describes how Hulk wins (2nd one is summary/shorter):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmjHaiO59lc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZ2ai9hJkV8
Team. But it's not a stomp. Hulk is a non factor here.
Yeah, because a pair of gamma-ray-powerful arms driving a fist into Superman's face is so not a factor.
And How is Superman going to take them all at once?
Superman is under a blue sun, Hulk is not landing a hit. He has twice the speed, strength, and power. Magic won't affect him like it used to, and if the scans above prove anything it's that Captain Marvel cannot beat Superman. Together they have a shot, if they fight alone he decimates.
@thetruthnerds: captain marvel is less of a threat than thor.
Team. But it's not a stomp. Hulk is a non factor here.
Yeah, because a pair of gamma-ray-powerful arms driving a fist into Superman's face is so not a factor.
And How is Superman going to take them all at once?
Superman is under a blue sun, Hulk is not landing a hit. He has twice the speed, strength, and power. Magic won't affect him like it used to, and if the scans above prove anything it's that Captain Marvel cannot beat Superman. Together they have a shot, if they fight alone he decimates.
What part of "gamma-ray powerful" don't you get? kinetic energy like that is all about speed and force that can challenge anyone.
It doesn't matter if Superman's speed has been doubled, Hulk will most certainly will land a hit.
Superman would have enough trouble with any of these guys alone so working together, Superman would get almost instantly killed.
Team. But it's not a stomp. Hulk is a non factor here.
Yeah, because a pair of gamma-ray-powerful arms driving a fist into Superman's face is so not a factor.
And How is Superman going to take them all at once?
Superman is under a blue sun, Hulk is not landing a hit. He has twice the speed, strength, and power. Magic won't affect him like it used to, and if the scans above prove anything it's that Captain Marvel cannot beat Superman. Together they have a shot, if they fight alone he decimates.
What part of "gamma-ray powerful" don't you get? kinetic energy like that is all about speed and force that can challenge anyone.
It doesn't matter if Superman's speed has been doubled, Hulk will most certainly will land a hit.
Superman would have enough trouble with any of these guys alone so working together, Superman would get almost instantly killed.
Wow i see. You win man.
This is just the kind of stuff everyone comes to expect from a superman fanboy. Of course if superman had double his power, was bloodlusted, had kryptonite proof underwear, and could reverse time by farting, he'd beat anyone and everyone in less than a fraction of a second all at the same time. Yay.
Superman's entire feat list is based off of PIS. One day a gasoline explosion hurts him, the next he's eating blackholes to improve his digestion. I know all superheros suffer from varying levels of power and capabilities, but super man blows everyone else out of the water.
Here's a question for you, if a blue sun doubles his strength, why not filter the earth's lite through something that changes it's spectrum to match that of a blue sun? Now super powered double up superman is available anytime something gets out of hand. What a stupid plot device. Oh this color son doubles my strength, but this color halves it.
Superman got beaten by batman. Who isn't any smarter than lex luthor. A few days later he's bench pressing a planet with one hand.
So yes, I agree, superman can beat any of them, at any time, and any situation. He will always win, because there's no limit to what he can do. You see though, that's what makes other heroes great. They have limits, they have weaknesses that go beyond crappy plot devices like a glowing green rock.
In any of these threads, it's absolutely stupid to try and say super-man would lose. Simply because some fanboy is going to pull some crazy comic scan out of his ass to show some PIS bs that proves superman will win the day again.
PS: Superman is the only hero that I like seeing in the cartoons/movies more than the comic books, because at least they're trying to tell a good story, not appease frothing fanboys.
PSS: It's funny that a writer like Jeph Loeb gets so much hate from marvel readers because of the incredible amount of PIS in his stories. But he's right at home writing superman comics.
You have 2 magically infused powerhouses against a magically vulnerable character..
I think Supes can give Hulk a good beating and resign his to his fate at the hans of Thor and Cap..
@susanoo: agreed with every thing
rules
superman is bloodlusted
supes is under a blue sun which doubles his powers
nomorals for all
no prep
fight takes place on a lifeless planet
who wins and why
Hi past DC. How are you doing today?
Hulk is just here to soak damage and I hardly believe he could do that against a Bloodlusted Blue Sun Superman. Team wins with difficulty.
Team for the stomp.
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