"Superman Vs Thor"... and what Really went down

" @Thor's hammmer:  Might as well go for the double face palm, watch the trailer again, he says "how dare you point that pathedic weapon at THOR" not donald blake. unless of course they are screwing the entire story up... and he is Thor on earth with no powers...   Which will rank 10 on the lame o meter.. "

" @TheFallenOne: 
 
Not being mean but I really think Superman says he is the single toughest opponent I've faced to everyone.  
 
 
 
 
  I mean come on, Superman's clothes aren't even tore. Doomsday and Bizarro can atleast damage his shirt. Yeah Thor messed up his cape, that's like stage 1. Superman was just being nice to the Marvelites... giving ya'll some hope.. cause that's what Superman does. He inspires hope...LOL  Now every Marvel fan is chanting Surfer! Surfer! Surfer! Man poor Superman, he just owns your heroes and gets no break or respect..    "

"@deathlife:  Nice, so they are screwing up Thor's oringin, I heard he won't even be a God... Gotta love Disney's influence... "

" @ShadowHuntR said:

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Omg, a fanboy! When are they gonna START reading a comic?!
 
First, Superman has MOVED more then one planet. He moved Mageddon who's size is equal to Jupiter (Jupiter is about 400 times the Earth). How about Superman lifting a book with infinite pages (Yes, Captain Marvel was helping on the feat but Ultraman, a Superman counterpart, showed to be weaker then Superman, was able to lift it by himself), etc. That alone beats anything Thor did.
 
Durability? Superman took out WEAKENED a blast EQUAL to 50 Supernovas. Again, that beats Thor in that departement.
 
Superman was able to prevent PEOPLE from teleporting in the past. I'll get the scan. But anyway, Superman flying million times faster then light speed is enought to easily beat Thor. Superman vs Thor WASN'T fan voted kid.
 
Fighting experience? I hope you know that Superman and Wonder Woman spent thousands of years in Asgard fighting every days. Superman was trained by Mongul, Batman, Wonder Woman and Huntress in the fighting departement. Thor doesn't have SKILLS. He goes in with Mjolnir.
 
For magic, Shazam is above Thor in the magic departement. When I say Shazam, I mean the magician. Oh and since you don't know, Captain Marvel << Superman. Read a comic for once or read a respect thread before writting that random stuff.
 


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Fanboy !? They only fanboy here is you. 
 
First of all Book of infinite pages wasn't stated to have infinite weight ? So you can't base your argumnet on anything. Second Thor has a feats involving infinite weights (Odinsword stated to have), than we have a Midgar Serpent (not 100 % sure). 
 
Now a weakend Thor has reversed the Yggdrasil tree and that's a feat which is > anything modern Supes has done. Since Yggdrasil tree supports the 9 realms (Midgar-Earth, Asgard, Surtur's realm, Hella's realm...) And 1 world with entire dimension is >> than a single planet. And we had 9 worlds in that feat. 
 
A blast equal to 50 Supernovas !? Well you have some wild imagination. If you're refering to Maggedon bomb than it's a fail, since Maggedon bomb wasn't exploding while he absorbed the energies - so he didn't absorbed the explosion. As the matter of fact it was specifficly stated that he(and all of the others) will die if Maggedon bomb explodes. So he absorbed energies to drain bomb - to permite the explosion, and he recived a large power boost. Wasn't wekaned while doing. Now if you're refering to Sun-Eaters (2 occassion) well they weren't stated to be as powerfull as Super-Nova not to mention equal to 50 of them. And he never was at ground zero (in 2nd occasion when he wasn't in a suit - desined to blcok the radation it was stated that radiation (burst) will kill him and he was flying at light speed to escape bursts). And he wasn't wekened there either His greatest durability feat (not including SA Supes) is surviving of Nova by Brainiac. And Thor took a blast equal to supernova and wasn't even scathed or koed. and had zero injury. Now if we look from scientic perspective Thor's feat is much better, since he took the totality of the energy (blast was chaneled at him). On the other hand in Nova/Supernova energy is equaly dustributed in explosion which easily is severla lightyears in diameter. So the body cought in it (unless it's big or bigger than supernova) won't take the totality of energy. Superman only took part of energy proportional to his body area.  His body area <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< area of the explosion. So the energy he took (although still extremly big) was many orders of magnitude less powerfull than regular 10^44 J of Supernova.  Anyway if we ignore that (since comic writers didn't think about it) Thor's feat is still better since Nova <Supernova). Also Supes after being 1h in the Sun went insane (since he couldn't endure trhe harsh enviroment) on the other hand Thor foguht Atum in the centre of the Sun - and actually didn't had any discomfort while doing.  About slying speed - you're refering to instance in which Supes covered a distance of 25 lightyears in 1 day ? Well Thor with Mjolnir can cross galaxy in less than a day. As the matter of fact he has thrown Mjolnir from Earth to the edge of the Milky Way, and hammer went there and was back in less than 60 seconds !!! Now that's >>>> Supes traveling speed. BRB also with Stormbreaker crossed half of the galaxy in less than 1h. With Mjolnir Thor can easily blitz Supes no matter how it looks like eyes.   About reflexes Supes has a nano-second thinking feat. While Thor has a 3 times speed of light reflexes feat (less than 1 nano-second to compare it). And all living beings can think faster than they can react.   About skills. He has 1000's of years of the experience and is titled the Asgard's most skilled warrior many times and he is top swordsmen- only Asgardian God of War is equal to him in sword dueling.    With Mjolnir Thor can:  - kill Superman with several attacks (each attack is capable of killing Kal) - he can contain him - he can absorb his powers  - bfr him through time and space  - can transmute him or turn him into something - can mind controling - can beat him with planet-busting strikes and universal shaking strikes (all those feats are shown on panel and if you want i'll post them) ...  Supes vs Thor (unamred with Mjolnir) goes to Supes simply because Supes can fly on his own and Thor can't. Thor(with Mjolnir) vs Supes Thor easily, anyway it's kind of unfair match since Thor has a weaponAnd you're the one who needs to read the damn comics or respect threads before writing post. Since everything you stated in post is wrong - anyway I think that it's because you lack info on Thor and Marvel.    P.S. I'm Danilo018, this is my new acount. "

 Since you don't know which feat I'm talking about maybe you could stop trying to find out and stop using lower feats. The Anti-Sun Mageddon bomb would have destroyed the Universe. Why? The Angels of Heaven were preparing the construct of a new Universe during that moment and they were afraid of what was happening down there. So we can assume that it was enought to destroy the Universe. Since when did he received a power boost? Are you making stuff up? It was ANTI-SUN energy.  
 
 
   Superman was able to fly 127 million times FASTER then the Speed of Light when he came back to Earth from Vega. That's above anything Thor has in the speed departement and the fact that you even try to make Thor EQUAL to Superman shows how much you don't know about him. Seriously... putting Thor close to Superman in the speed departement? Even Thor fans give the edge to Superman. Superman's reflexes are on par with The Flash. He doesn't have the Super Speed of the Flash but his reflexes are pretty much on par with him.  
 
 
Superman spent more then 1000 years on Asgard with Wonder Woman helping Thor so don't bring up the experience. Don't even bring up that Thor is a God. Superman's ancestor is called Rao, the Sun God of Krypton. It is that Rao that destroyed Krypton after being convinced by Despair of the Endless.  We both know that Thor, when it comes to a fight, goes all in without thinking most of the time. Superman is a tactician and he has learned fighting skills from the best in DC like Mongul, Batman, Wonder Woman, Huntress, etc. Superman was skilled enought with pressure points and other that he was able by himself to beat Ultraman, Superwoman and Owlman with tactics only. Oh and the fight lasted on like 3 panels that's it. It ended when Superman, using pressure points on Ultraman, threw him at the face of Superwoman.  Really? Mind control Superman? You know that Martian Manhunter cannot even get inside Superman's head right? Superman now has the Torquasm abilities that prevents people from manipulating him.   Man, you make me laugh, trying to debate on this. You can't. Not with what I see.  Thor beating Superman with Planet-Busting strikes? Really, lol? The shockwave of the punches of Superman were shattering Time and Space when he was fighting Kal-L. That's better then Planet-Busting strikes.  For Yydrasil, I suggest you go get some informations about the Mageddon feat which is pretty much Superman moving Jupiter. Jupiter = 400 times the Earth. That's much more then Yydrasil.  Infinite pages isn't infinite weight? Let's say one page lift 1lb or something. You put an infinite ammount of them and you have infinite weight. Is that hard to understand? Midgard Serpent was far from having infinite weight.  So now, again, go on either a respect thread please or read a comic of Superman. Please. I know Thor. I've been debating for a longgggg time on the Oldwizard website about who's above who in the Superhero list. "

" @TheFallenOne said:

" @ShadowHuntR said:

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Omg, a fanboy! When are they gonna START reading a comic?!
 
First, Superman has MOVED more then one planet. He moved Mageddon who's size is equal to Jupiter (Jupiter is about 400 times the Earth). How about Superman lifting a book with infinite pages (Yes, Captain Marvel was helping on the feat but Ultraman, a Superman counterpart, showed to be weaker then Superman, was able to lift it by himself), etc. That alone beats anything Thor did.
 
Durability? Superman took out WEAKENED a blast EQUAL to 50 Supernovas. Again, that beats Thor in that departement.
 
Superman was able to prevent PEOPLE from teleporting in the past. I'll get the scan. But anyway, Superman flying million times faster then light speed is enought to easily beat Thor. Superman vs Thor WASN'T fan voted kid.
 
Fighting experience? I hope you know that Superman and Wonder Woman spent thousands of years in Asgard fighting every days. Superman was trained by Mongul, Batman, Wonder Woman and Huntress in the fighting departement. Thor doesn't have SKILLS. He goes in with Mjolnir.
 
For magic, Shazam is above Thor in the magic departement. When I say Shazam, I mean the magician. Oh and since you don't know, Captain Marvel << Superman. Read a comic for once or read a respect thread before writting that random stuff.
 


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Fanboy !? They only fanboy here is you. 
 
First of all Book of infinite pages wasn't stated to have infinite weight ? So you can't base your argumnet on anything. Second Thor has a feats involving infinite weights (Odinsword stated to have), than we have a Midgar Serpent (not 100 % sure). 
 
Now a weakend Thor has reversed the Yggdrasil tree and that's a feat which is > anything modern Supes has done. Since Yggdrasil tree supports the 9 realms (Midgar-Earth, Asgard, Surtur's realm, Hella's realm...) And 1 world with entire dimension is >> than a single planet. And we had 9 worlds in that feat. 
 
A blast equal to 50 Supernovas !? Well you have some wild imagination. If you're refering to Maggedon bomb than it's a fail, since Maggedon bomb wasn't exploding while he absorbed the energies - so he didn't absorbed the explosion. As the matter of fact it was specifficly stated that he(and all of the others) will die if Maggedon bomb explodes. So he absorbed energies to drain bomb - to permite the explosion, and he recived a large power boost. Wasn't wekaned while doing. Now if you're refering to Sun-Eaters (2 occassion) well they weren't stated to be as powerfull as Super-Nova not to mention equal to 50 of them. And he never was at ground zero (in 2nd occasion when he wasn't in a suit - desined to blcok the radation it was stated that radiation (burst) will kill him and he was flying at light speed to escape bursts). And he wasn't wekened there either His greatest durability feat (not including SA Supes) is surviving of Nova by Brainiac. And Thor took a blast equal to supernova and wasn't even scathed or koed. and had zero injury. Now if we look from scientic perspective Thor's feat is much better, since he took the totality of the energy (blast was chaneled at him). On the other hand in Nova/Supernova energy is equaly dustributed in explosion which easily is severla lightyears in diameter. So the body cought in it (unless it's big or bigger than supernova) won't take the totality of energy. Superman only took part of energy proportional to his body area.  His body area <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< area of the explosion. So the energy he took (although still extremly big) was many orders of magnitude less powerfull than regular 10^44 J of Supernova.  Anyway if we ignore that (since comic writers didn't think about it) Thor's feat is still better since Nova <Supernova). Also Supes after being 1h in the Sun went insane (since he couldn't endure trhe harsh enviroment) on the other hand Thor foguht Atum in the centre of the Sun - and actually didn't had any discomfort while doing.  About slying speed - you're refering to instance in which Supes covered a distance of 25 lightyears in 1 day ? Well Thor with Mjolnir can cross galaxy in less than a day. As the matter of fact he has thrown Mjolnir from Earth to the edge of the Milky Way, and hammer went there and was back in less than 60 seconds !!! Now that's >>>> Supes traveling speed. BRB also with Stormbreaker crossed half of the galaxy in less than 1h. With Mjolnir Thor can easily blitz Supes no matter how it looks like eyes.   About reflexes Supes has a nano-second thinking feat. While Thor has a 3 times speed of light reflexes feat (less than 1 nano-second to compare it). And all living beings can think faster than they can react.   About skills. He has 1000's of years of the experience and is titled the Asgard's most skilled warrior many times and he is top swordsmen- only Asgardian God of War is equal to him in sword dueling.    With Mjolnir Thor can:  - kill Superman with several attacks (each attack is capable of killing Kal) - he can contain him - he can absorb his powers  - bfr him through time and space  - can transmute him or turn him into something - can mind controling - can beat him with planet-busting strikes and universal shaking strikes (all those feats are shown on panel and if you want i'll post them) ...  Supes vs Thor (unamred with Mjolnir) goes to Supes simply because Supes can fly on his own and Thor can't. Thor(with Mjolnir) vs Supes Thor easily, anyway it's kind of unfair match since Thor has a weaponAnd you're the one who needs to read the damn comics or respect threads before writing post. Since everything you stated in post is wrong - anyway I think that it's because you lack info on Thor and Marvel.    P.S. I'm Danilo018, this is my new acount. "

 Since you don't know which feat I'm talking about maybe you could stop trying to find out and stop using lower feats. The Anti-Sun Mageddon bomb would have destroyed the Universe. Why? The Angels of Heaven were preparing the construct of a new Universe during that moment and they were afraid of what was happening down there. So we can assume that it was enought to destroy the Universe. Since when did he received a power boost? Are you making stuff up? It was ANTI-SUN energy.   Superman was able to fly 127 million times FASTER then the Speed of Light when he came back to Earth from Vega. That's above anything Thor has in the speed departement and the fact that you even try to make Thor EQUAL to Superman shows how much you don't know about him. Seriously... putting Thor close to Superman in the speed departement? Even Thor fans give the edge to Superman. Superman's reflexes are on par with The Flash. He doesn't have the Super Speed of the Flash but his reflexes are pretty much on par with him. Superman spent more then 1000 years on Asgard with Wonder Woman helping Thor so don't bring up the experience. Don't even bring up that Thor is a God. Superman's ancestor is called Rao, the Sun God of Krypton. It is that Rao that destroyed Krypton after being convinced by Despair of the Endless.  We both know that Thor, when it comes to a fight, goes all in without thinking most of the time. Superman is a tactician and he has learned fighting skills from the best in DC like Mongul, Batman, Wonder Woman, Huntress, etc. Superman was skilled enought with pressure points and other that he was able by himself to beat Ultraman, Superwoman and Owlman with tactics only. Oh and the fight lasted on like 3 panels that's it. It ended when Superman, using pressure points on Ultraman, threw him at the face of Superwoman.  Really? Mind control Superman? You know that Martian Manhunter cannot even get inside Superman's head right? Superman now has the Torquasm abilities that prevents people from manipulating him.   Man, you make me laugh, trying to debate on this. You can't. Not with what I see.  Thor beating Superman with Planet-Busting strikes? Really, lol? The shockwave of the punches of Superman were shattering Time and Space when he was fighting Kal-L. That's better then Planet-Busting strikes.  For Yydrasil, I suggest you go get some informations about the Mageddon feat which is pretty much Superman moving Jupiter. Jupiter = 400 times the Earth. That's much more then Yydrasil.  Infinite pages isn't infinite weight? Let's say one page lift 1lb or something. You put an infinite ammount of them and you have infinite weight. Is that hard to understand? Midgard Serpent was far from having infinite weight.  So now, again, go on either a respect thread please or read a comic of Superman. Please. I know Thor. I've been debating for a longgggg time on the Oldwizard website about who's above who in the Superhero list. "

" @deathlife:          Yeah name calling= not cool,  However I would like to point out that speed is irrelevant, it's not like Thor or Superman is going to fight a warp factor 9. They don't fight like that in the comics they just don't. Superman fights with Super speed alot more than I've ever seen Thor do it. They are both great comic characters, it's just Thor is outclasses. He got beat by Superman, and would again, no matter what feats or "powers" one may show...   When it counted Thor lost. End of Story... "

@deathlife:
      Wow... so much for playing nice.... 
 
Not only does Thor not stand a chance against Superman, he didn't so there. 
 
Second JLA/Avengers is only cannon to DC... yeah sounds like sore loser excuses yet again.

What we really learned from JLA/Avengers is...

Yeah I'll give Hawkeye over GA because of the solider serum...

Green Lantern wouldn't have to fight an extended fight with Photon, cause it wouldn't last that long

Scarlet Witch got more powerful in the DC UNIVERSE, which means she's next to pathedic in her own. (Also meaning DC magic is 10x as strong as Marvels)

She-Hulk is stronger than Aquaman, and she should be. But under water, he'd own her. (and Namor)

Batman said it is fesible Captain could beat him, but it would take for ever. And that's if Batman didn't cheat. (and he already had neutralized Caps biggest advantage his shield) 
Iron Man vs Captain Atom...plz... Atom could unleash so much energy on Iron man it would overload his suit. (make a thread I dare you) 
That Doomsday was most likely one of Darkseid's Doomsday robots. Not the real thing. B/C the real doomsday would have owned everyone there. Including Thor.. so don't get a big head over it.  (again make a thread, I dare you)
 
And finally, all the DC people got significantly weaker, in the Marvel universe... and let's ask why... UM SO the MARVEL PPL would stand a chance. DUH!! I mean they took Flash completly down to useless and SW gets stronger.. yeah that's fair. Because one on one there's nothing the AVENGERS could do against the League unless they were weakened and the Avengers were powered up. 
 
If anything it shows that Marvel is truely weaker than DC.

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@deathlife:
      Wow... so much for playing nice.... 
 
Not only does Thor not stand a chance against Superman, he didn't so there. 
 
Second JLA/Avengers is only cannon to DC... yeah sounds like sore loser excuses yet again.

 

What we really learned from JLA/Avengers is...

 

Yeah I'll give Hawkeye over GA because of the solider serum...

Green Lantern wouldn't have to fight an extended fight with Photon, cause it wouldn't last that long

Scarlet Witch got more powerful in the DC UNIVERSE, which means she's next to pathedic in her own. (Also meaning DC magic is 10x as strong as Marvels)

She-Hulk is stronger than Aquaman, and she should be. But under water, he'd own her. (and Namor)

Batman said it is fesible Captain could beat him, but it would take for ever. And that's if Batman didn't cheat. (and he already had neutralized Caps biggest advantage his shield) 
Iron Man vs Captain Atom...plz... Atom could unleash so much energy on Iron man it would overload his suit. (make a thread I dare you) 
That Doomsday was most likely one of Darkseid's Doomsday robots. Not the real thing. B/C the real doomsday would have owned everyone there. Including Thor.. so don't get a big head over it.  (again make a thread, I dare you)
 
And finally, all the DC people got significantly weaker, in the Marvel universe... and let's ask why... UM SO the MARVEL PPL would stand a chance. DUH!! I mean they took Flash completly down to useless and SW gets stronger.. yeah that's fair. Because one on one there's nothing the AVENGERS could do against the League unless they were weakened and the Avengers were powered up. 
 
If anything it shows that Marvel is truely weaker than DC.

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@deathlife:  Now your nickpicking?   I don't recall Iron Man saying he could or he beat up Captain Atom. Ever, but I seriously doubt he could. For that matter, I beat up Thanos once.. do you believe me?   Captain America's strength is peak human, so is Batman's. And the only reason Capt was the leader of the fight is because Batman was more useful in the fight than Cap. ( I know they said he is a better tactian, but isn't he a better soldier? I mean thats emasculating right?) And I was just stating facts. If the real DOOMSDAY was in fact in the fight, then he would have destroyied everyone. Make a thread Thor vs Doomsday, and everyone will say DOOMSDAY. There are in fact Doomsday robots in the DCU. So to one shot Doomsday can only logically mean it wasn't the real DOOMSDAY.   Not pushing your buttons but DOOMSDAY would own HULK, and Thor in the same fight. It's not even debatible make either thread and eveyone will tell you as such. Same goes for Iron man vs Captain Atom, it's a joke.  I mean how many threads have there been of JLA vs Avengers, and everyone of them the League own the Avengers. I know your a Marvel fan but be realistic.    I like the Avengers.. I really do, but they have never will/ never have been able to keep up with the League. And deep down you know it. Just look at the start of the book. The League made Terminus kill himself. the Avengers almost lost to Starro. And only succeeded in running him off. It's the way things are And for the love of God stop whining cause your boy lost. Thor loses all the time. Suck it up man, and have some pride. You lost. Build a rainbow bridge and get over it.     "

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  I like the Avengers.. I really do, but they have never will/ never have been able to keep up with the League. And deep down you know it. Just look at the start of the book. The League made Terminus kill himself. the Avengers almost lost to Starro. And only succeeded in running him off. It's the way things are And for the love of God stop whining cause your boy lost. Thor loses all the time. Suck it up man, and have some pride. You lost. Build a rainbow bridge and get over it.     "

"@TheFallenOne:      Again I hate to bust your bubble, it doesn't matter. Thor hasn't beaten Superman, ever. ( We have it in print that your boy lost to big blue) So when it counted he lost. Your like all those MMA fighters and boxers who lose in primetime and say I'll beat him next time (Thor and Superman). But get beat the next time.  Marvel is making Thor and joke and I don't know why. He can't stand with Hulk, SS or Sentry anymore... it's like they are trying to weaken him. This has been going on since Ultimates. Even with the Odin Power he didn't do anything fabulous.  And if Thor could do all of that above then why can't he beat Hulk.. oh I know cause most of the above is PIS. Cause Thor gets owned in his own universe... why does he want to get owned in DC's? "

Superman.