#1 Posted by Dolph_Zigglar (107 posts) - - Show Bio

no powers, just hand to hand combat
#2 Posted by victorymaker (349 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman. He has had H2H training and teaching with and from Batman.

#3 Posted by Dolph_Zigglar (107 posts) - - Show Bio

thor wins he is bigger stronger and tougher and has millions of years of combat experience

#4 Posted by victorymaker (349 posts) - - Show Bio
@Dolph_Zigglar : If that is your opinion, why did you post the thread?
#5 Posted by CosmicSpiral (5471 posts) - - Show Bio
@Dolph_Zigglar said:
" thor wins he is bigger stronger and tougher and has millions of years of combat experience "
Wrong, wrong, wrong. Thor is physically weaker than Supes in all areas. 
#6 Posted by Dolph_Zigglar (107 posts) - - Show Bio

they are depwoered so thor would be stronger 
thor is 6'6 superman is like 6 foot
#7 Posted by CosmicSpiral (5471 posts) - - Show Bio
@Dolph_Zigglar said:
" they are depwoered so thor would be stronger thor is 6'6 superman is like 6 foot "
How does height = strength?
#8 Posted by thetitan0 (845 posts) - - Show Bio

thor wins. he has been trained his entire life.

#9 Edited by jumpstart55 (2267 posts) - - Show Bio
@Dolph_Zigglar : supermans no stick when it come too muscularity.  thor towers by about 3 inches which isnt bad. thor  is huge, hes bulked up since his costume change before then he looked more around supes  physique
 anyway supes wins  hes been trained by bats, the most dangerous non super human  on the planet. 
#10 Posted by Neon_Nemesis (2170 posts) - - Show Bio

Supes could just use a pressure point to paralyze half of Thors body
 

#11 Posted by MichaeltheFly (6555 posts) - - Show Bio

I will go with Thor, he had a lot of years of practice and he would be stronger than Supes.

#12 Posted by ssejllenrad (12847 posts) - - Show Bio
@Dolph_Zigglar said:
" they are depwoered so thor would be stronger thor is 6'6 superman is like 6 foot "
Superman is 6'3" mate. Not 6. But yeah Thor still wins. A viking would beat the crap out of a Kansas farmboy any day of the week. Even if that farmer had training from a master martial artist billionaire friend. The training would make the fight close though. Aw men my fellow supes fanboys will be hating me for this!
#13 Posted by victorymaker (349 posts) - - Show Bio

Thor's height is in absolutely no way a factor in this battle. Superman is 6'3", while Thor is 6'6". A 3" difference is nothing. Superman, in New Krypton, defeated Commander Gor by targeting and stricking his pressure points. Superman will target and strike Thor's pressure points. He was taught this by Batman. I really do not see Thor defeating Superman in H2H combat.
 

#14 Posted by Maikel (374 posts) - - Show Bio

Depowered, okay. What powers do and do'nt they have(A depowered superman is as vulnerable as a normal human being, while thor has a lot more crude combat experience he has needed to revert to everyday for thousands of years(more then just each ragnarok he has to fight creatures that actually can hurt him). Superman is used to his invulnerability.  
 
I' ve also seen SA supes got his ass handed to him by a caveman while he was trapped on a plenet with a red sun(I'll need to look up the issue), so my vote here goes to Thor.

#15 Posted by MKF30 (11635 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman

#16 Posted by warlock360 (28040 posts) - - Show Bio
@Dolph_Zigglar said:
" no powers, just hand to hand combat "
Thor has more experience, I'll give it to him.
#17 Posted by texasdeathmatch (13171 posts) - - Show Bio
@victorymaker said:
" Thor's height is in absolutely no way a factor in this battle. Superman is 6'3", while Thor is 6'6". A 3" difference is nothing. Superman, in New Krypton, defeated Commander Gor by targeting and stricking his pressure points. Superman will target and strike Thor's pressure points. He was taught this by Batman. I really do not see Thor defeating Superman in H2H combat.
 

"
Goddamnit why doesn't Superman do crap like this more often with heavy hitters
#18 Posted by warlock360 (28040 posts) - - Show Bio
@texasdeathmatch:
Because the blondy in the scan clearly is your regurlar kryptonian joe.
#19 Posted by Omg chris (1607 posts) - - Show Bio

supes

#20 Posted by CosmicSpiral (5471 posts) - - Show Bio

Kal-El wins. 

#21 Posted by capall (8278 posts) - - Show Bio

supes all day everyday due to his superior speed, reflexes, strength, nobleness 

#22 Posted by warlock360 (28040 posts) - - Show Bio
@capall said:
" supes all day everyday due to his superior speed, reflexes, strength, nobleness  "
which he doesnt have in this fight because they're both powerless
#23 Edited by capall (8278 posts) - - Show Bio
@Voidheart said:

" @capall said:

" supes all day everyday due to his superior speed, reflexes, strength, nobleness  "
which he doesnt have in this fight because they're both powerless "
oh crap, lol 
i would go with thor in this case since thor likes to brawl and as much as supes did have training it's not like thor hasn't had any   
thor loses to supes all the time, he is bound to win one, lmao
#24 Posted by the darknessss (2750 posts) - - Show Bio

sups,thor with no hammer,hmmmm dont think he could win,,,sups cause he fights all the time just with his hands,thor loves that trusty old hammer. imo.
#25 Posted by Maikel (374 posts) - - Show Bio

This is what happens when you take Supes his powers away, I think he lost to an Earth boxer while depowered also, 
but this is a simple brawl with a caveman. No fighting tactics or Martial arts here!
#26 Edited by Neon_Nemesis (2170 posts) - - Show Bio
@Voidheart said:

" @Dolph_Zigglar said:

" no powers, just hand to hand combat "
Thor has more experience, I'll give it to him. "
Experience means nothing when your opponent has you outclassed in everything else, last time I checked, Thor can't deliver pressure points that paralyze half of someones body, Clark could
#27 Posted by The Mjolnir Wielder (7906 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman would beat Thor down in an actual fight, but I'm still not convinced that he's the better fighter.
#28 Posted by Buckshot (18913 posts) - - Show Bio

I've always wanted to see Thor's h2h skill. Is that demonstrated anywhere? I know he should have some I've just NEVER seen it. EVER.
 
And Supes has been trained by a lot more than just Batman plus has (unless it was retconned, which is a possibility) a ton of down and dirty combat experience from when he was fighting monster warriors(on his level) alongside Diana for like a thousand years.

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#29 Posted by Static Shock (47329 posts) - - Show Bio
@Buckshot said:
" And Supes has been trained by a lot more than just Batman plus has (unless it was retconned, which is a possibility) a ton of down and dirty combat experience from when he was fighting monster warriors(on his level) alongside Diana for like a thousand years. "
I think we saw some of that hand-to-hand stuff in New Krypton. By the way, what was the deal with Supes fighting along with Diana for 1000 years? How come they didn't age? LOL.
#30 Posted by tensor (3867 posts) - - Show Bio

superman should win thor normally with out his hammer get his ass kick an i don't think thor is as tough as superman blow for blow

#31 Edited by The Mjolnir Wielder (7906 posts) - - Show Bio
@Buckshot said:

"I've always wanted to see Thor's h2h skill. Is that demonstrated anywhere? I know he should have some I've just NEVER seen it. EVER. And Supes has been trained by a lot more than just Batman plus has (unless it was retconned, which is a possibility) a ton of down and dirty combat experience from when he was fighting monster warriors(on his level) alongside Diana for like a thousand years. "


He has some impressive H2H feats in Thor: Blood Oath (he also has many high-end skill feats with Mjolnir, but I'm assuming that you weren't referring to those).
#32 Edited by Static Shock (47329 posts) - - Show Bio
@Maikel: I'm confused as to what a Pre-Crisis comic book scan is suppose to prove. I have something better than what you posted for Superman without powers.
 




#33 Posted by cascadeking09 (6752 posts) - - Show Bio
@Dolph_Zigglar said:
" they are depwoered so thor would be stronger thor is 6'6 superman is like 6 foot "
try 6'3, bein taller doesnt make u stronger. and u said this is h2h, if its h2h its not about strength its about skill.
#34 Posted by Static Shock (47329 posts) - - Show Bio
@Dolph_Zigglar said:
" they are depwoered so thor would be stronger thor is 6'6 superman is like 6 foot "
Physically, shorter people are stronger than taller people.
#35 Posted by Sexy Merc (42071 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman

#36 Posted by Neon_Nemesis (2170 posts) - - Show Bio

One pressure point and Thor goes down

#37 Posted by Buckshot (18913 posts) - - Show Bio
@Static Shock: 
They fought a battle in Valhalla (they even outlasted Thor and Supes got his hammer when he died) and time did pass, but they're both pretty much immortal so they didn't really change except that Supes got rugged with a beard and long hair. After the battle they were sent back to a few days after they left or something.
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#38 Posted by Static Shock (47329 posts) - - Show Bio
@Buckshot said:
" @Static Shock:  They fought a battle in Valhalla (they even outlasted Thor and Supes got his hammer when he died) and time did pass, but they're both pretty much immortal so they didn't really change except that Supes got rugged with a beard and long hair. After the battle they were sent back to a few days after they left or something. "
Thanks for the clarification.
#39 Posted by The Mjolnir Wielder (7906 posts) - - Show Bio
@Static Shock said:
" @Dolph_Zigglar said:
" they are depwoered so thor would be stronger thor is 6'6 superman is like 6 foot "
Physically, shorter people are stronger than taller people."

That's 100% true, but length and distance are key components that often bother shorter fighters as well.
#40 Posted by Buckshot (18913 posts) - - Show Bio
@The Mjolnir Wielder said:
He has some impressive H2H feats in Thor: Blood Oath (he also has many high-end skill feats with Mjolnir, but I'm assuming that you weren't referring to those). "
I'll check that out.
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#41 Posted by Static Shock (47329 posts) - - Show Bio
@The Mjolnir Wielder said:
"That's 100% true, but length and distance are key components that often bother shorter fighters as well. "
Agreed.
#42 Posted by crabtree (1619 posts) - - Show Bio

 

 

#43 Posted by warlord1234 (1260 posts) - - Show Bio

Thor is able to move planet. All Thor need to do is use his godblast which skyfather level.

#44 Posted by SilverGalford (3260 posts) - - Show Bio

superman

#45 Posted by AtPhantom (14521 posts) - - Show Bio
@warlord1234 said:
" Thor is able to move planet. All Thor need to do is use his godblast which skyfather level. "
No powers, hand to hand.
#46 Posted by Ebbm (1118 posts) - - Show Bio

Thor since he's been  around for so long.
#47 Posted by warlord1234 (1260 posts) - - Show Bio
@AtPhantom: 
 
Most of Thor fighting prowess have been refernce he has used fighting skills long forgotten
#48 Posted by MisterShin (228 posts) - - Show Bio

Thor gonna win this.
 
Thor's vast experience > Superman's experience & H2H

#49 Posted by CosmicSpiral (5471 posts) - - Show Bio

Let's see some actual scans of Thor's H2H that show skill, not clouting with his hammer. 

#50 Posted by Neon_Nemesis (2170 posts) - - Show Bio
@CosmicSpiral said:
" Let's see some actual scans of Thor's H2H that show skill, not clouting with his hammer.  "