Superman Vs Thanos

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#201  Edited By MrDirector786
@Freefa11 said:
@___Living_Tribunal_22__ said:

Superman has beat Darkseid, yes, but it was proven here that they were massive PIS or Desaad in disguise.

Mr. Director is actually mistaken on some of those points. The "retcon" of the Superman fight actually being Desaad doesn't work, because Desaad was shown to be on Skartaris at the time (Warlord 114 and 115), and was sent there by Darkseid personally in the Legends arc (issue 4 I think). Darkseid is actually less powerful than a lot of people think; many of the claims made about him are either made up, grossly exaggerated, or misinterpreted. So even if it's not PIS, Superman beating DS wouldn't be a very strong argument for him beating Thanos anyway.
Well, I looked at it and yeah it seems Desaad was actually on Skartaris which just makes that retcon seem out of place. I still wouldn't consider that victory Superman had over Darkseid to be completely legit though. Like in that same story Darkseid's beams were shown to be able to phase through matter and for some reason Darkseid didn't do that when they were aiming at him. And when Superman was beating him around, prior to that Darkseid said his omega force was spent and would take time to return to full potency most likely because he was weakened when struck by the beams. I also always felt John Byrne always wrote Darkseid as being more powerful than Superman as well like he depicted Darkseid as having power that rivals the Greek Gods. I know he didn't really beat them and they just fled from Olympus, but they did seem to fear his power.
 
As for this fight, I have heard current Thanos was powerful enough to take blasts that were cosmic cube level or something. If he's really that powerful, then current Thanos would win for sure. Prior to being upgraded, I would have said Superman due to his strength and speed and as long as Thanos didn't have prep or anything.
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#202  Edited By HolySerpent

Superman. Has the speed and strength to win

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#203  Edited By Petey_is_Spidey

thanos is equivalent if not above darkseid. Darkseid is always beatin supes a*s. thanos takes him easily 10/10. he already took surfer

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@venomoushatred1001 said:
@Red_Blade said:
 Superman Stronger, faster plus Thanos cant fight very well 
Superman is not stronger, Him being faster isn't going to help him, and Thanos is a very deadly fighter.
Superman is stronger unless you have feats to prove otherwise.
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@supermandefender said:
@venomoushatred1001 said:
@Red_Blade said:
 Superman Stronger, faster plus Thanos cant fight very well 
Superman is not stronger, Him being faster isn't going to help him, and Thanos is a very deadly fighter.
Superman is stronger unless you have feats to prove otherwise.

He is not. Thanos has one shotted both Hulk and Darx and has easily overpoered the likes of Thor and Herc. He was also trading blows with Warrior's Madness Thor.
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#206  Edited By MrDirector786
@venomoushatred1001 said:
@supermandefender said:
@venomoushatred1001 said:
@Red_Blade said:
 Superman Stronger, faster plus Thanos cant fight very well 
Superman is not stronger, Him being faster isn't going to help him, and Thanos is a very deadly fighter.
Superman is stronger unless you have feats to prove otherwise.
He is not. Thanos has one shotted both Hulk and Darx and has easily overpoered the likes of Thor and Herc. He was also trading blows with Warrior's Madness Thor.
 
When Thanos smacked Hulk and Drax, they weren't knocked out or anything. In fact, on the next page they seemed fine.

 
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#207  Edited By pooty

Thanos has never been shown moving planets etc as SUperman has. But he has been shown beating people and contending with people who would defeat superman. Thanos wins

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#208  Edited By Freefa11
@MrDirector786 said: 
Well, I looked at it and yeah it seems Desaad was actually on Skartaris which just makes that retcon seem out of place. I still wouldn't consider that victory Superman had over Darkseid to be completely legit though. Like in that same story Darkseid's beams were shown to be able to phase through matter and for some reason Darkseid didn't do that when they were aiming at him.
 They were only shown to pass through an ordinary overcoat, and from what I can tell, that's the only post-crisis instance of them passing through anything. I don't really see why passing through Darkseid himself would be equally as easy. Or maybe he just can't phase them if they're on the "kill" setting (when they phased through the coat, they were just trying to teleport Superman, not harm him). Like I said, there's only one instance of them phasing, and it was only through a coat, so there's not a lot of hard evidence to draw conclusions from, other than the OB can apparently pass through ordinary clothing sometimes.

And when Superman was beating him around, prior to that Darkseid said his omega force was spent and would take time to return to full potency most likely because he was weakened when struck by the beams. 

The Omega Beams have required a "cool down" period on other occasions, so I'm not sure why that's relevant. Darkseid was obviously hurt from being struck, which is also to be expected; if the Omega Beams just tickled, nobody would make such a big deal about them.
 

I also always felt John Byrne always wrote Darkseid as being more powerful than Superman as well like he depicted Darkseid as having power that rivals the Greek Gods. I know he didn't really beat them and they just fled from Olympus, but they did seem to fear his power. 


I thought that the gods disappearing from Olympus had to do with other things going on in Wonder Woman at the time. I'm pretty sure that they had already left well before Darkseid arrived, and Wonder Woman, at least, seemed certain that if they had been present, DS would have had little chance of forcing them all out (of course, she is a bit biased).
 

As for this fight, I have heard current Thanos was powerful enough to take blasts that were cosmic cube level or something. If he's really that powerful, then current Thanos would win for sure. Prior to being upgraded, I would have said Superman due to his strength and speed and as long as Thanos didn't have prep or anything.

 
He took a shot from the Beyonder before his death in Annihilation. I don't know if he took a shot from an actual Cosmic Cube later or not. Tanking a shot from the Beyonder is a decent feat, but there are 2 problems with really gauging it: 
 
a) The Beyonder has been retconned so many times at this point, I doubt anyone has a clear idea of just how powerful she is supposed to be anymore. 
 
b) At the time she was suffering from amnesia and was emotionally and mentally unstable, so there's no real way to tell if what she hit him with was really supposed to be the best she could do or not. 
 
Considering he actually beat her in a physical fight later, I find it hard to believe the Beyonder was operating anywhere near 100% at the time. 
 
Still, Thanos has survived attacks from Warrior's Madness Thor with Power Gem, Tyrant, Odin, Galactus, and Omega. Yes, he had shields for some of those, but still, when something twice as strong as Galactus actively tries to kill you and fails, that's still pretty impressive, shields or no.
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#209  Edited By Petey_is_Spidey
@HolySerpent said:

Superman. Has the speed and strength to win

Why dosn't he have the speed and strength to beat Darkseid. Personally, I think Surfer's strength is underrated, and the hes stronger and faster then Supes. Thanos reflexes and strength is way above supes.
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#210  Edited By Freefa11
@Petey_is_Spidey: Superman has beaten Darkseid.
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#211  Edited By Nessy

thanos whom has slapped about thor and surfer? If thor vs superman is a common and valid argument, I don't see how thanos vs superman could be. 
 
thanos 100%
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#212  Edited By Superskrull86
SUPES 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Does not win.
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Thanos with zero effort

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Thanos stomps. Mismatch.

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LMAO those fanboys.

Hulk vs Thanos = Thanos spitestomps lol

Superman vs Thanos = Superman is stronger and faster and wins.

GG Comicvine

And yes,

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@kinasin_ said:
@thedarkpaladin said:

@ancient_god: why in the world would you bump this?

Supes is not stronger than Thanos.

And thanos has reflexes

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@pipxeroth said:

LMAO those fanboys.

Hulk vs Thanos = Thanos spitestomps lol

Superman vs Thanos = Superman is stronger and faster and wins.

GG Comicvine

And yes,

@the_caped_crusader said:
@kinasin_ said:
@thedarkpaladin said:

@ancient_god: why in the world would you bump this?

Supes is not stronger than Thanos.

And thanos has reflexes

I know, that's what I'm saying...

Also good work on another pointless bump.

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@pipxeroth: Oh I thought you said this............

Superman vs Thanos = Superman is stronger and faster and wins.

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More bump

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Why do people keep bumping this? Thanos wins.

There's no reason to bump threads just because Superman beats your fave.

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#230  Edited By algorhythm511

@never_give_up said:

Why do people keep bumping this? Thanos wins.

Yep.

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Why do people keep bumping this? Thanos wins.

There's no reason to bump threads just because Superman beats your fave.

QFT.

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Thanos stomps lol

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Why keep bumping this. Superman faboys all over the place.

They won't lock it. If someone wants to argue for Superman, it's the best to leave it open.

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@g2_: There's no arguemnt for Superman. THis is not like Martian Manhunter vs Thor. This is a stomp for Thanos no question.

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Thanos stomps

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@g2_: Not arguments, trolling.

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Oh god, not this crap again. Thanos is superior in every way, sans speed. He stomps with a hand tied to his back.

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@krleavenger: Agreed, most of the supes arguments ate just high balling and dont provide a reason to think he will win

, thanos 10/10

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@caped_baldy said:

Oh god, not this crap again. Thanos is superior in every way, sans speed. He stomps with a hand tied to his back.

Thanos tagged characters at full speed Superman can't hope to tagg.

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Superman gets godstomped. I view Thanos's power as a competently written Darkseid, who slaps around Supes on a regular basis.

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#245  Edited By RisingBean

How do threads like this slip under the radar?

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Should be locked

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@caped_baldy said:

Oh god, not this crap again. Thanos is superior in every way, sans speed. He stomps with a hand tied to his back.

Thanos tagged characters at full speed Superman can't hope to tagg.

So has Thor. Thanos has never been portrayed as a fast character, IMO.

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@caped_baldy:

He's portrayed as having fast reaction speed.

But he's not a speedster.

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@caped_baldy: He's not a speedster like Superman is. Hwever he showed fast reaction, consistently. I don't know why you are bringing up Thor as the same arguemnt can be made for him if his speed was consistent (which a lot of people can be said that it isn't). My point is that all speed Superman has is useless as he tagged people faster than Superman.

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Thanos should win