@reaverlation: Clark tried to speed
Blitz him etc; and who is to say Orion was going all out.
Orion laughed at his speed blitz, and of course he isn't going to have speed feats on his level; because he has so few feats.
First Born can beat Orion and Diana at the same time; Orion being the same guy who laughed at Superman's speed blitz's, and took his punches.
So planetary strength gives him a win, no; what proof does Darkseid have of planetary strength, also lifting is not the same as striking you know.
It's good lifting a planet, but matching Orion; but First Born who has no lifting feats trashed Orion.
You are showing real ignorance and trying to ignore feats etc and the truth due to your love of the character; I though you were better than this?
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