Superman vs Superman

Superman [ from Smallville ] Vs Superman[ from I, II, III, IV, and Superman Returns]

(appears this topic has never been debated on this site)

rules:

• In regard to series incarnation, The feats from season 1 way all the way up to season 11 comics are permitted
• In regard to the film incarnation, All feats are permitted
• no extensive artifacts are permitted for either party ( such as the stones of power from SV and the Fortress "Red Radiation" power removal feature from the films)
• the battle takes place in Metropolis
• Morals Do apply

Scenario: Due to a cross dimensional screw up by Mzyzptlk, the universes collide, the two Supermen confront each other with each incarnation viewing the other as an evil duplicate and begin slugging it out

best out of 10

which incarnation reigns superior?

no BFR, win by K.O

ahahaahaha this is huge spite against the Smallville Superman. Christopher Reeve STOMPS

@Jayfournines said:

ahahaahaha this is huge spite against the Smallville Superman. Christopher Reeve STOMPS

explain

because the smallville incarnation has some rather impressive feats as well

i'm not really seeing how this sums as a "spite" thread

@X_insignia1: have you ever seen the Superman movies?! He flies around the world and turns back time, he kisses broads and whipers their memory, he uses his S-shield as a magical cellophane trap. Superman from the movies is silver age Superman.

@Jayfournines said:

@X_insignia1: have you ever seen the Superman movies?! He flies around the world and turns back time, he kisses broads and whipers their memory, he uses his S-shield as a magical cellophane trap. Superman from the movies is silver age Superman.

Indeed i have seen them

but did you read my thread thoroughly?

i specifically stated that those feats were not allowed

also, the smallville incarnation moved the entire planet of Apokolips with no aid rather easily

@X_insignia1: so you're picking and choosing feats now? Great thread....i'm....gonna go over here now, have a good evening.

@Jayfournines said:

@X_insignia1: so you're picking and choosing feats now? Great thread....i'm....gonna go over here now, have a good evening.

Since when was leveling the playing field a bad thing?

i specifically stated the conditions

specifically eliminated the time feat because it would give the movie incarnation an unfair advantage, likewise the intangible s

because every poster would use that as "stomp" feat

i also eliminated any time traveling feats from Smallville

you're acting as if the the incarnation portrayed by Reeves and Routh has nothing going for them

they have a plethora of other feats

bump

@PowerHerc said:

In a "Superman vs Superman" battle I have to pick Superman for the win.

Seems logical to me...

seriously now?

it's just the thread title, no reason to be a wise a$$

the detail is explained in the OP

troll elsewhere

@PowerHerc damn, you beat me to it

Either way, I think that Superman wins

*sigh

trolls

@Jorgevy said:

Im gonna give a serious answer. Clark from Smallville series should win. Since Time reverse feat doesn't count, SV Clark should be faster. But I donno, I haven't watched all the movies

i mean, his speed can still be taken into consideration, just not the time reversal itself because that idea seems totally silly to me and would hardly ever utilize that ability

for example, silver surfer building up enough momentum to time travel ( yet he hardly ever utilizes that ability in battle)

if you get what i'm saying

@Jorgevy said:

@X_insignia1: hmmm, then I dont know, Id need more info on Reeves Superman. Can they use Kryptonite, or any other objects from the movies/show?

lol that would seem rather silly, seeing how they're both vulnerable to the material

an no, no other objects/artificats , just a straight up test of strength and power(s)

also to add, apparently the film incarnation (Christopher Reeve) was able to move the move under his own strength, as well as tectonic plates

from what i've gathered, both of these Smallville and film versions were roughly based off of silver aged Superman

actually, you know what?

i will allow the time feat , because that itself does not regard an automatic win

there are other factors, i feel both incarnations should be used to the best of their physical /mental capacity

@Jorgevy said:

@X_insignia1: Smallville was probably based on Silver Age superboy, which is different from SA Superman, who was basically a God.

Also, it's not silly. Clark from Smallville could use Green Kryptonite . He developed a resistance against it, so he can keep some of his powers and survive long enough to attack Reeves Super with it. Of course Im kinda speculating

yes, but there were points that in Smallville that when clark was exposed to Kryptonite, he would be weakened to the point that normal humans could damage him, and handle him very easily, the same inconsistency lies in the Movies, Clark was terribly handled by goons in Superman Returns When exposed and stabbed kryptonite, yet he was able to lift an entire island full of the substance and send it flying off into space

@Jorgevy

i believe they become more tolerant when they will themselves, however the effect is still deadly

Superman from the movies wins, Clark was toned down till the last minute. The movies has much greater experience with their powers, and the powers in the movies were amped up compared to Smallville.

@HBKTimHBK said:

Superman from the movies wins, Clark was toned down till the last minute. The movies has much greater experience with their powers, and the powers in the movies were amped up compared to Smallville.

if you don't mind. could you give some examples?

Given that a majority of the series concentrated on primarily his teen years

If i can recall, in the first superman film, when Clark was running from school

he appeared to be running ay maybe 40-50 miles per hour tops

while in the series, his speed appeared to be super if not slightly sub-sonic ( obviously surpassing super sonic later on in the series)

another notable speed feat would be circumnavigating at nuclear explosion at high speeds to contain the explosion

@X_insignia1 said:

@HBKTimHBK said:

Superman from the movies wins, Clark was toned down till the last minute. The movies has much greater experience with their powers, and the powers in the movies were amped up compared to Smallville.

if you don't mind. could you give some examples?

Given that a majority of the series concentrated on primarily his teen years

If i can recall, in the first superman film, when Clark was running from school

he appeared to be running ay maybe 40-50 miles per hour tops

while in the series, his speed appeared to be super if not slightly sub-sonic ( obviously surpassing super sonic later on in the series)

another notable speed feat would be circumnavigating at nuclear explosion at high speeds to contain the explosion

He could move faster by the end of the first Superman movie..and we all know that. Whether that feat is counted here or not, Superman in the movies could move much faster then Clark.

And if I recall, Superman did the same thing. He did stop one missile.

@HBKTimHBK said:

@X_insignia1 said:

He could move faster by the end of the first Superman movie..and we all know that. Whether that feat is counted here or not, Superman in the movies could move much faster then Clark.

And if I recall, Superman did the same thing. He did stop one missile.

hm, how often is that speed utilized in battle though?

traveling speed and reaction time are two different things

in Smallville , there have been multiple reaction time feats, as well as fighting with an accelerated perception in "hypertime" relative to the world

@X_insignia1 said:

@HBKTimHBK said:

@X_insignia1 said:

He could move faster by the end of the first Superman movie..and we all know that. Whether that feat is counted here or not, Superman in the movies could move much faster then Clark.

And if I recall, Superman did the same thing. He did stop one missile.

hm, how often is that speed utilized in battle though?

traveling speed and reaction time are two different things

He moved fast enough to stop the missile, it wasn't his reaction time. There is no proof that Clark is faster then Superman, and so if Clark tried to blitz, Superman would blitz faster and first. Maybe he wouldn't go for it straight off the bat, but he is faster then Clark so blitzing wouldn't be much of an option.

@HBKTimHBK said:

@X_insignia1 said:

@HBKTimHBK said:

@X_insignia1 said:

He could move faster by the end of the first Superman movie..and we all know that. Whether that feat is counted here or not, Superman in the movies could move much faster then Clark.

And if I recall, Superman did the same thing. He did stop one missile.

hm, how often is that speed utilized in battle though?

traveling speed and reaction time are two different things

He moved fast enough to stop the missile, it wasn't his reaction time. There is no proof that Clark is faster then Superman, and so if Clark tried to blitz, Superman would blitz faster and first. Maybe he wouldn't go for it straight off the bat, but he is faster then Clark so blitzing wouldn't be much of an option.

he's been clocked at lightspeeds, during the initial appearances of braniac

a blitz by either would rather result in just a neutral collision,

in Smallville many times enemies have tried to speed blitz clark, but his accelerated perception kicked him allowing him to either evade and or counter

In all honesty, I Feel the Smallville incarnation has a better display of speed with the exception of Reeve turning back time

another notable feat from Smallville is vaporizing an entire dam with his heat vision in what appears to be less than a second

Ha. I'm going to go against the common rationale of this thread. By the end of Smallville Kal did take on a nuclear bomb. He also took on Doomsday a feat NONE of the movie superman have done. He fought an incarnation of Darksied and lifted his ENTIRE PLANET!!!! ... Yes...all but the last series Smallville gets his ass handed to him. But by the last one, Kal came into his own. Plus SV has taken on WAY larger assortment of bad guys than Movie superman who (a). either fights Lex over and over again or (b) had a fight with three kryptonians. SV took on an army of them. ;)

For the record. Smallville is closest to the silver age superman.

It would be a good fight though!

@jeduhu: That Doomsday was nothing like the comics, beating him in Smallville wasn't a big feat compared to how powerful Doomsday should be.

Yes. Agreed. Doomsday Smallville was a bit of a two pump chump however.  Moving Darkseid's planet was a huge feat.