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#1  Edited By runk

looked for it, couldn't find it. Honestly not sure who'd come out on top.

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yes i am. I could pretend i know stuff or i could ask and learn. I choose the latter.

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#6  Edited By danteuk666

silver surfer hands down superman may be stronger but thats all silver surfer is faster and is powers are much more impressive.

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#7  Edited By The_Martian

As has been said before. Surfer beats Superman. Not a hug challenge. Superman being Superman would but up a great fight but he never really had a chance besides his name being Superman.

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#8  Edited By E-MAN

I agree the Surfer is one of the most powerful heroes in all of comic. I don't see Supes being about to with stand the Power Cosmic.

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#9  Edited By E-MAN

Top 25 most powerful Heroes,(you guys tell me what u think.)

1.THE SILVER SURFER;NO ONE CAN MATCH THE POWER COSMIC

1.DR. STRANGE. THE MASTER OF THE MYSTIC ART HAS NO EQUAL.

1.SOLAR; THE MAN OF THE ATOM POWER COULD VERY WELL SURPASS THAT OF THE SURFERS.

2.ADAM WARLOCK. ONE OF THE MOST POWERFUL SPACE BORN HEROES.(This is only with the Soul Gem,with out he's top 15)

2.THOR; HIS HAMMER GIVES HIM A SLIGHT EDGE OVER SUPES.

3.SUPERMAN; THE HEROES THAT ALL HEROES ARE BASED ON

Tied Captain Marvel; his magic based powers could give even supes problems.

4.SENTRY;IT COULD GO EITHER WAY BETWEEN HIM AND SUPES.

5.HYPERION.CROSS SUPERMAN WITH THE PUNISHER.

6.FIRESTORM.CAN HOLD HIS OWN WITH ANYONE.

7.CAPTAIN ATOM. SOME CONSIDER HIM SUPES EQUAL IN TERMS OF RAW POWER.

8.GREEN LANTERN. WITH ENOUGH WILL POWER HE COULD DEFEAT ANY OF THE OTHER SEVEN ABOVE HIM.

9.THE FLASH. THE FASTEST MAN ALIVE.NOT EVEN SUPES FASTER.

10.THE HULK. UNLIMITED STRENGTH

tied.Professor X THE POWERFUL MIND ON EARTH.

tied .Martian Manhunter; Not quite the telepaths charles is,but he has more powers.

11.NOVA. COULD VERY WELL AND MAYBE SHOULD BE HIGHER ON THIS LIST,BUT HE'S EXPERIENCE AT SUCH A HIGH POWER LEVEL IS LITTLE.

  1. THE SCARLET WITCH. AND INSANE WANDA COULD VERY WELL DEFEAT any OF THE MEN IN FRONT OF HER.

13.HER. THE WOULD BE MATE OF ADAM WARLOCK IS A POWERHOUSE.

13.TIED SUPERGIRL. WE KNOW SHE'S FASTER THAN SUPES.

14.IRON MAN. TONY's ARMOR IS GETTING MORE AND MORE ADVANCED,THERE'S NO LIMIT TO HOW POWERFUL HE COULD MAKE IT. with more hardware he'll crack the top ten.

15.PHOTON; CAN TURN INTO ANY FORM OF ENERGY.COULD BE HIGHER.

16.Jade. Could be the equal of Green lantern

17.Ms. Marvel. IN her Binary form she's a ten powerhouse.

18.JEAN GREY.WITH THE PHOENIX FORCE SHE'S ABOVE EVEN THE SURFER.

19.DONNA TROY. WILL ONE DAY BE IN TOP 10

20.Firehawk. Firestorm's onetime girl friend can hold her own.

21.Wonder Women. ONe of the deadiest warriors in all of comics,some would say she should be higher,but she's vulnerable to long range attacks.

Tied. Zarda. Hyperions lover can match Diana blow 4 blow.

22.Namor. Underwater he's a top 15 powerhouse.With superman level strength. On the surface more like class 75.

Tied WONDERMAN; WHEN SIMON CUTS LOOSE HE'S TOUGH TO BEAT.

23.Firelord. Not quite the powerhouse Norrin is.

24.Moon Stone. This thunderbolt could be higher.

25.Doc Spectrum. Hyperion's team mate could and should be higher.Need to see more of him.
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there's no particular order to this it's possible number 25 could beat number one.these are just the most power in terms of what their powers can do.For example the Power cosmic and Stranges Magic is capable of greater feats than even superman great strength. Could they beat supes,that's a toss up. Whose Stronger,the Hulk, Supes,Thor,Hyperion,Sentry,Captain Marvel,who knows.But their all in the same league.
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#10  Edited By BuckshotWasHere  Moderator

I don't read caps, try again.

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#11  Edited By Forever

And can you space those out a little so they're easier to read?

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#12  Edited By Eternal Chaos

Surfer

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#13  Edited By Valkaad

Buckshot says:

"I don't read caps, try again."

Forever says:

"And can you space those out a little so they're easier to read?"

And get us all a cup of coffee while your're at it!

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#14  Edited By speed

superman wins easily

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#15  Edited By speed

superman wins easily

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#16  Edited By Eternal Chaos

speed says:

"superman wins easily"

How?

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#17  Edited By speed

just punches him in the face

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#18  Edited By speed

or heat vision

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#19  Edited By Eternal Chaos

Dude. Surfer is stronger and faster than Supes. He's a cosmic being and he can phase if I'm not mistaken. Surfer can just phase his hand through Supes's brain and pull it out. Surfer absorbs energy as well. Surfer can also absorb Supes power and leave him powerless and curbstomp him.

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#20  Edited By BuckshotWasHere  Moderator

Stronger and faster? I haven't seen that. Surfer wins because he can take Superman's solar energy (although 1. Surfer has been overloaded with energy before and 2. Superman has recharged instantly before), and other matter/energy manipulation things, not because of a physical advantage. At least, that's the way I see it.

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#21  Edited By Eternal Chaos

I read he was way stronger curtosy of his ability to absorb energy and as far as being faster, that's definitly because he's as fast as the Flash or a little bit faster as stated by either you, or Forever in one of these battle threads. Also his phasing is an issue too. But well I guess we can finally agree on something. Even though it's a different method.

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#22  Edited By BuckshotWasHere  Moderator

He doesn't start stronger, and he's been overloaded by trying to absorb too much energy before (a small portion of a star was too much for him on one occasion I believe) and I don't know if even his greatest strength feats are on Superman's level. He's faster over a distance, but I don't think his reaction time is greater than Superman's. (If you've got examples of it though, by all means, show me.)

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#23  Edited By Eternal Chaos

If I had the examples I would show you but I'm trying to gather as many books as possible with what little money I can save so I don't really have much other than what was stated on these battle threads.

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E-MAN says:

"Top 20 most powerful Heroes,(you guys tell me what u think.)1.THE SILVER SURFER;NO ONE CAN MATCH THE POWER COSMIC1.DR. STRANGE. THE MASTER OF THE MYSTIC ART HAS NO EQUAL.1.SOLAR; THE MAN OF THE ATOM POWER COULD VERY WELL SURPASS THAT OF THE SURFERS.2.ADAM WARLOCK. ONE OF THE MOST POWERFUL SPACE BORN HEROES.2.THOR; HIS HAMMER GIVES IN A SLIGHT EDGE OVER SUPES.3.SUPERMAN; THE PRECURSOR THAT ALL HEROES ARE BASED ON4.SENTRY;IT COULD GO EITHER WAY BETWEEN HIM AND SUPES.5.HYPERION.CROSS SUPERMAN WITH THE PUNISHER.6.FIRESTORM.CAN HOLD HIS OWN WITH ANYONE.7.CAPTAIN ATOM. SOME CONSIDER HIM SUPES EQUAL IN TERMS OF RAW POWER.8.GREEN LANTERN. WITH ENOUGH WILL POWER HE COULD DEFEAT ANY OF THE OTHER SEVEN ABOUT HIM.9.THE FLASH. THE FASTEST MAN ALIVE.NOT EVEN SUPES FASTER.10.THE HULK. UNLIMITED STRENGTH11.NOVA. COULD VERY WELL AND MAYBE SHOULD BE HIGHER ON THIS LIST,BUT HE'S EXPERIENCE A SUCH A HIGH POWER LEVEL IS LITTLE.12. THE SCARLET WITCH. AND INSANE WANDA COULD VERY WELL DEFEAT IN OF THE MEN IN FRONT OF HER.13.HER. THE WOULD BE MATE OF ADAM WARLOCK IS A POWERHOUSE.14.IRON MAN. TONY ARMOR IS GETTING MORE AND MORE ADVANCED,THEIR NO LIMIT TO HOW POWERFUL HE COULD MAKE IT.15.PHOTON; CAN TURN INTO ANY FORM OF ENERGY.COULD BE HIGHER.16.WONDER WOMAN. ONE OF THE DEADIEST WARRIORS IN ALL OF COMICS,AND A BETTER FIGHTER THAN SUPES.17.PROFESSOR X; HE TOO SHOULD BE HIGHER.ANOTHER MISTAKE.MAYBE TOP 10.18.JEAN GREY.WITH THE PHOENIX FORCE SHE'S ABOVE EVEN THE SURFER.19.STARFIRE. NIGHTWINGS LADIE LOVE IS BOTH A HOTTIE AND ONE TUFF MOTHER.20.VISION JR. THIS YOUNG AVENGER COULD VERY WELL BE IN THE TOP 10,AND WATCH OUT 4 THIS TEAM MATE WICCAN."

This post should come with advil.

Surfer bitch smacks Kent back to the farm.

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#25  Edited By Caleb Barnes

Superman.

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#26  Edited By bill4747

Superman would win. The surfer is no stronger than the hulk in raw muscle and toughness, that is firmly established in marvel comics. The hulk can lift 100 tons easily, but Superman is in another class of raw power entirely. superman is conseravtively 10 to 100 times stronger than the hulk. The surfer can travel faster than superman, but that is not 'super speed combat' like the flash. The surfer is not all that fast in hand to hand combat, but superman is 'Flash' like, able to punch at blinding speed. The surfer would not last 1 second in hand to hand. The surfer might win if he used his power cosmic to make red sun radiation or kryptonite, but thats the only way he has a chance to win.
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#27  Edited By E-MAN

I space them out. I apolgize 4 my bad typing.

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#28  Edited By E-MAN

The surfer has this one hands down bill. look at the Surfers powers and Supes.

IF a writer were to pen the story and stayed true to the powers of both. Norrin beats Clark,how?

If any of u ever read the Surfer series then u know his powers. Norrin can control All forms of energy.

The Surfer can also see and trace any form of energy to it's source. A simple probe of Supes and he'll easily see the yellow sun radiation flowing into him. Now,keep in mind the Surfer control all energy. He can easily isolate the yellow sun rays from flowing into Clark,rendering him powerless.Or drain him totally like parasite once did.

Even the Surfers enemies far out match that of Supes.

Surfer's arch enemies. Galactus,Thanos,Mephisto.

Superman's arch enemies. Lex Luthor,Parasite,Bizzaro.

He's fought Darkseid as well but he's the only one that's on a cosmic level.and he's not really his arch enemy He's the arch baddy 4 the New Gods.

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Buckshot says:

"He doesn't start stronger, and he's been overloaded by trying to absorb too much energy before (a small portion of a star was too much for him on one occasion I believe) and I don't know if even his greatest strength feats are on Superman's level. He's faster over a distance, but I don't think his reaction time is greater than Superman's. (If you've got examples of it though, by all means, show me.) "

Buckshot I agree with you on this.

Superman has a practical strength level many times that of the Surfer. Also I would suspect that Supes does have a fster reaction time - you don't see the Surfer catching bullets to protect people or entering 'super speed' where others appear like statues.

The Surfer should be able to lower Supes overall power level and make him expereince a drain. The Surfer can however affect Supes further absorption of solar energy and really use his powers to do an 'Ironman' - absorb from a source (Supes body and his heat vision if he fires it) and feed this directly back out his energy blasts, giving them more kick, at Supes.

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#30  Edited By Satyrquaze

Not to mention in space of time that it takes Supes to blink he finds himself at the center of a red sun with Surfer bearing down upon him with the Power Cosmic smaking him with Kryptonite radiation.

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#31  Edited By The_Martian

Buckshot says:

"Stronger and faster? I haven't seen that. Surfer wins because he can take Superman's solar energy (although 1. Surfer has been overloaded with energy before and 2. Superman has recharged *instantly* before), and other matter/energy manipulation things, not because of a physical advantage. At least, that's the way I see it."
I agree about the energy thing. I do belive that Surfer is faster than Superman but strength and durability I don't know. Superman is pretty tough cookie but then gain Sufer can use all that comic power of his to increase his to an unknown amount.
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#32  Edited By speed

Eternal Chaos says:

"Dude. Surfer is stronger and faster than Supes. He's a cosmic being and he can phase if I'm not mistaken. Surfer can just phase his hand through Supes's brain and pull it out. Surfer absorbs energy as well. Surfer can also absorb Supes power and leave him powerless and curbstomp him. "

but superman isnt weak to cosmic power

only kryptonite and magic can hurt him

and i didnt read anywhere where it says hes faster and stronger

and why wont heat vision work

just cause you said so??

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#33  Edited By The_Martian

speed says:

"Eternal Chaos says:
"Dude. Surfer is stronger and faster than Supes. He's a cosmic being and he can phase if I'm not mistaken. Surfer can just phase his hand through Supes's brain and pull it out. Surfer absorbs energy as well. Surfer can also absorb Supes power and leave him powerless and curbstomp him. "
but superman isnt weak to cosmic power only kryptonite and magic can hurt him and i didnt read anywhere where it says hes faster and stronger and why wont heat vision work just cause you said so??"
Silver Surfer would beable to produce the same radaition type as Red Sun or Kryptoite. Not to mention he could drain Superman of his yellow sun energy. He could also alter his body make up to make him a normal human. Heat Vision wouldn't work cause Surfer can fly through stars. Sufer is also go in a hyperspace(i believe is what its called) which is tons faster than light making him able to cross the universe which Superman can't travel that fast.
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#34  Edited By speed

haha

superman wins

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#35  Edited By Forever

speed says:

"haha superman wins"

Based off of what?

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#36  Edited By Eternal Chaos

speed says:

"haha superman wins"

Superman loses. Get over it.

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#37  Edited By speed

could use super hypnosis

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#38  Edited By Donnieman v5.1

Cosmic beings can only be defeated by other cosmic beings. p.s. E-Man has crappy lists.

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#39  Edited By Eternal Chaos

speed says:

"could use super hypnosis"

Won't work.

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Surfer has access to kryptonite.

Surfer all the way.

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#41  Edited By speed

Eternal Chaos says:

"speed says:
"could use super hypnosis"
Won't work."

why??

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#42  Edited By Doomhunter

From my point of view the Surfer's power is limitless, power cosmic given to him by Galactus himself. Plus all those things they're saying up there:) It for sure the blance tilts towards the Surfer's side....

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Surfer, big time own.

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#44  Edited By Zoom
Donnieman v5.1 said:
"Cosmic beings can only be defeated by other cosmic beings."
Bull.
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Okay. To add something. I dig on Superman. I dont even like responding to something like this.
but i noticed some fans of some of the bigger DC characters dont seem to have a full knowledge of Surfer.
I think the Surfer is the kind of character people that are into guys like Superman, Green Lantern and Flash would really enjoy reading about more because he is essentially Marvels godlike golden boy 9well, silverlike, whatever). I highly reccomend these two books

Silver Surfer/Superman
http://www.comicvine.com/silver-surfersuperman-pop/37-105607/
Green Lantern/Silver Surfer
http://www.comicvine.com/green-lanternsilver-surfer-unholy-alliances/37-105603/


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#48  Edited By loganreme
Doomhunter said:
"

From my point of view the Surfer's power is limitless, power cosmic given to him by Galactus himself. Plus all those things they're saying up there:) It for sure the blance tilts towards the Surfer's side....

"

Agreed.
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#49  Edited By TruePwnge

Yes a GL famously once lost to SS

but there is no shame in losing to the Silver man because
Surfer crbstomps


Alexander Anderson said:

"Zenma said:

Now that's just awesome."

Nearly kills the Avengers(including Thor) with a warning blast

 
 

Can sense specific details about people(like their race and any powers they have)
 
 

 

 
bullrushing and destroying space armada

 
 
 
Silver Surfer going so fast with the power cosmic he breaks the time barrier
 





Feats of Time Travel



 
Dodging Asteroids at Light Speed, Quasar can't keep up






  
  
Reed calculates the Surfer can travel light years in seconds



 
 
 
Durability takes multiple hits from super powered soldiers
 





Owns them all and shotgun blasts everyone with an Area Of Effect attack

 

 
  
 
Shields, Blocks shots from Warrior Madness Thor backed with the friggin Power Gem.
Surfer blocks himself and Gamora from the blasts of Thor's Hammer

 
 
Displays of Power and Agility vs Cyborg Superman

 
 




Teleports himself during combat

 
 
De-powered by an alien slave suit, forced to fight as 'silver savage' and stripped of his power cosmic he still dishes out pain on Hulk

 
 



Invulnerability, can not be harmed by a cosmic speed blitz

 
 




WTF reaction times,
in one billionth of a second surfer does an analysis the problem, breaks free from his prison and corrects his depressed trajectory

 
 

 
Speed: Blitzing a Kree Star Destroyer

 
 
 
 Another speed feat: Calculating and absorbing 1000 years worth of information in just mili seconds
 



   Shielding, uses a force field to protect a base from Firelords energy blasts AFTER Firelord shoots his fire blots
 
 
 
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Can drain and heal people's bio energies

 
 



Creates a Blackhole



Causes a planet to age so fast, aging billions of year in an instant that it explodes into a ball of lifeless energy

 
 



The combined power of Hal and Surfer can remake history

 
 

 Telepathy feat SS ends all war across the globe and briefly brings about world peace





 
Telepathy on Bruce Banner
 
 
 

 
 
Absorbing Psycho Man's attacks and re-directing his psycho kinetic energy against him
 




  

causes tsunami sized tidal waves, manipulates the gravitalional curvature of matter itself to rip the ancient pyramids from the ground using only a mere gesture


 
 

FTL speed, Cosmic Awareness helps him find an invisible foe,
he opens up a rift in the fabirc space to see and confront the invisible enemy

 
 
WTF reaction times,
before Doc Strange can finish his sentence Surfer flies up and scans every person on the planet

 
 


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#50  Edited By BIackFlash

speed said:

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or heat vision

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what a joke. Heat vision? Surfer can fly through the hottest Nova and survive the absolute zeros of deep space. Surfer can just absorb his vision and use it to amp himself up even stronger

What's your next move of desperation? super cold breath? against a guy who lives in deep space?....don't make us wet ourselves with laughter