#1 Edited by Wardemon32 (4101 posts) - - Show Bio

Round One:

  • Pre-52 for Superman
  • Everone is in character
  • No prep
  • In an evacuated city
  • No BFR
  • KO'd or Death

Round Two:

  • Pre-52 Superman
  • Bloodlusted
  • No prep
  • In a desert
  • No BFR
  • KO'd or Death

Round Three:(Everyone gets a BIG upgrage)

  • Superman Prime 1 Million
  • Trion juggernaut
  • World Breaker Hulk(Forced to watch his mother die over and over for a year straight so he's VERY pissed)
  • Void Sentry
  • Thor Warrios Madness Rune King Thor
  • Bloodlusted
  • No Prep
  • Indestructable Planet(Didn't want people to keep saying(*Inserts name* BLOWS UP THE PLANET HUEHAHA)
  • KO'd or Death

If you do pick who wins please provide why you think who will win for any of the three rounds and please try to show scans.

Since everyone loves these characters and always talk about how they'll win I made this thread.

#2 Posted by AllStarSuperman (20152 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman

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#3 Posted by Wardemon32 (4101 posts) - - Show Bio

@AllStarSuperman: Why and what rounds?

#4 Posted by AllStarSuperman (20152 posts) - - Show Bio

Supes beat Thor pre flashpoint already. Sentry is just like supes both not as good. hulk doesnt have the speed to take down Supes. And Juggernaut can be beaten by physical force, all which the other characters can do.

A bloodlusted Supes wins hes just on a different level than the rest.

Superman prime wins easy. if you made it RKT he might have a chance but with just WM supes wins.

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#5 Posted by Wardemon32 (4101 posts) - - Show Bio

@AllStarSuperman: I wouldn't say a different level but, I'm not going to argue with you. I'll just let other people talk about it an I'll watch. It would be pointles if I makea debate when I made the battle

#6 Posted by Batman242 (4860 posts) - - Show Bio

Round 3 is an automatic for Supes.

Round 2 goes to Thor or Superman

Round 1 is definitely for Superman

#7 Posted by Wardemon32 (4101 posts) - - Show Bio

bump

#8 Posted by Killemall (18274 posts) - - Show Bio

Round 1 : Superman

Round 2: Sentry - morals off neither Superman nor Hulk has answer to Sentry's exotic powers.

Round 3: Superman.

Superman should win round 1 because in character is has better feats in pretty much every catogery.

Senty would win round 2 because despite limited showing of strength and durability, a stable sentry has abilities like Matter Manipulation which Superman nor Hulk has any answer to.

Round 3 Superman 1 million has 5D powers (assuming we are talking Kal Kent) and telepathy, sufficient to take down both Trion and Sentry.

#9 Posted by Wardemon32 (4101 posts) - - Show Bio

@Killemall: Why'd you forget about Thor and Juggernaut? You think their non factors?

#10 Posted by isaac_clarke (5448 posts) - - Show Bio

@Killemall said:

Round 1 : Superman

Round 2: Sentry - morals off neither Superman nor Hulk has answer to Sentry's exotic powers.

Round 3: Superman.

Superman should win round 1 because in character is has better feats in pretty much every catogery.

Senty would win round 2 because despite limited showing of strength and durability, a stable sentry has abilities like Matter Manipulation which Superman nor Hulk has any answer to.

Round 3 Superman 1 million has 5D powers (assuming we are talking Kal Kent) and telepathy, sufficient to take down both Trion and Sentry.

Depends on how it begins, if Thor goes moronic and tries to fight the Hulk like he normally does - sure. If Thor tries something different like slug it out with Superman, that could end up being a very different fight.

The Sentry never quite popped anyone as durable as Superman, although I'm inclined to believe there isn't much he could do to the Sentry at that point. Thor would be their best bet on the account of Mjolnir's ability to harm beings significantly more powerful.

Wasn't Trion sporting some ridiculous amounts of power?

#11 Edited by logy5000 (5655 posts) - - Show Bio

Round 1: Juggeranut-Superman-Thor-Hulk

Round 2: Superman-Thor-Juggernaut-Hulk

Round 3: Juggernaut-Superman-Hulk-Thor (Warrior madness Thor is outclassed here, I'd recommend Rune King Thor.)

#12 Posted by Wardemon32 (4101 posts) - - Show Bio

@logy5000: So he's the strongest thor?

#13 Posted by logy5000 (5655 posts) - - Show Bio

@Wardemon32: Yes; he's more powerful than Odin.

#14 Posted by Wardemon32 (4101 posts) - - Show Bio

@Killemall: @isaac_clarke: Changed it to Rune King Thor since I found out he's teh strongest

#15 Edited by BlueHope (360 posts) - - Show Bio

1-Superman

2-Thor

3-Superman

#16 Posted by comicace3 (3469 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman

Thor

Thor. Do you guy know how powerful RKT is? He is basically one with the universe, curbstomped Magog, broke the Ragnarok cycle, and ascended past death...

#17 Posted by GypRosetti (347 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman isn't winning a single round as he's facing two characters powered by magic - Thor and Juggernaut. I don't know how Hulk, Sentry and Juggernaut are going to be put down.

#18 Posted by Wardemon32 (4101 posts) - - Show Bio

@GypRosetti: Superman can beat Captain Marvel, beat thor in crossover, and Superman 1 million is effected by magic...

#19 Posted by TheCannon (17917 posts) - - Show Bio

Round 1: Hm... I'll say Juggernaut.

Round 2: Even tougher. I'll say...Superman? Possibly Thor, but I'll say Superman

Round 3: Wow, now that's a good one. As much as I want to say RK Thor, I say Superman One Million wins.

#20 Posted by Wardemon32 (4101 posts) - - Show Bio

@TheCannon: How come no-one is mentioning Hulk, Sentry, or Jug for round three? You guys don't think their factors? And thanks

#21 Posted by TheCannon (17917 posts) - - Show Bio

@Wardemon32: It's not that I don't think they're factors, I just think Supes 1M & RKT are the most powerful and would be the final two left.

#22 Posted by TERMINATORFAN (1250 posts) - - Show Bio

@BlueHope said:

1-Superman

2-Thor

3-Superman

#23 Posted by GypRosetti (347 posts) - - Show Bio

@Wardemon32: Crossovers don't count and Thor v Superman wasn't an actual fight. The fights in crossovers were :

Fan voting :

#24 Posted by Wardemon32 (4101 posts) - - Show Bio

@Wardemon32: How do you think they take out

Juggernaut the guy with a stupid power, to me(punching through demensions like it's nothing and can't be hurt by physical damage

Hulk, the maddest anyone has ever seen

Or Sentry, the guy who has Molecule man scared of him?

#25 Posted by THORSON (2324 posts) - - Show Bio

@Wardemon32 said:

Round One: Superman

  • Pre-52 for Superman
  • Everone is in character
  • No prep
  • In an evacuated city
  • No BFR
  • KO'd or Death

Round Two: THOR

  • Pre-52 Superman
  • Bloodlusted
  • No prep
  • In a desert
  • No BFR
  • KO'd or Death

Round Three:(Everyone gets a BIG upgrage): everyone dies

  • Superman 1 Million
  • Trion juggernaut
  • World Breaker Hulk(Forced to watch his mother die over and over for a year straight so he's VERY pissed)
  • Void Sentry
  • Thor Warrios Madness Rune King Thor
  • Bloodlusted
  • No Prep
  • Indestructable Planet(Didn't want people to keep saying(*Inserts name* BLOWS UP THE PLANET HUEHAHA)
  • KO'd or Death
#26 Posted by THORSON (2324 posts) - - Show Bio

@GypRosetti said:

Superman isn't winning a single round as he's facing two characters powered by magic - Thor and Juggernaut. I don't know how Hulk, Sentry and Juggernaut are going to be put down.

so? supes still can give THOR problems.

#27 Posted by Wardemon32 (4101 posts) - - Show Bio

@GypRosetti: He still fights people magic based and can win....

#28 Posted by Killemall (18274 posts) - - Show Bio

@isaac_clarke said:

Depends on how it begins, if Thor goes moronic and tries to fight the Hulk like he normally does - sure. If Thor tries something different like slug it out with Superman, that could end up being a very different fight.

Thor vs Hulk depends on 2 things really, either they fight the way they fight with each other, in which case it could go either way, or they fight the way they should in which case Thor would win everything.

Thor in character more often than not brawls, and against a morals off Superman is going to have to contend with superior speed.

The Sentry never quite popped anyone as durable as Superman, although I'm inclined to believe there isn't much he could do to the Sentry at that point. Thor would be their best bet on the account of Mjolnir's ability to harm beings significantly more powerful.

Sentry durability changes with mental stability and anger apparently, but its inconsistently all the way through. Hulk had no problem beating the tar out of Sentry, but when driven the same Sentry goes couple of round with an amped up Ultron and despite their punches leaveling most of the building Sentry isnt even harmed or deterred, he nearly ripped Ultron's head off.

Then we have Terrax incident where Sentry holds his axe with but one hand.

Then we have versatility, telepathy and molecule manipulation, kind of makes it pretty hard to put someone like that down. He has brought himself back to life, he has even brought his dead wife back to life, Sentry despite inconsitency was written with some incredible leeway in terms of power, do whatever he wants, i think that wins him the round.

Wasn't Trion sporting some ridiculous amounts of power?

Physical strength he nearly destroyed an entire universe simply by punching, but Prof X was able to manipulate his psychic to convince Juggernaut to fight himself, it was even stated that since Trion has a crack in his helmet, which allows Prof X to use telepathy. Void has telepathy should have power to put him down.

@Wardemon32 said:

@Killemall: @isaac_clarke: Changed it to Rune King Thor since I found out he's teh strongest

That changes a lot, RKT has a lot of versatility, i think he would take round 3, only concerned about Juggernaut though, he doesnt have TP, perhaps he gains Odin's TP too, never shown on panel though.

#29 Posted by Wardemon32 (4101 posts) - - Show Bio

@Killemall:

You ever watched DC Univer Online Cinemtic Trailer? I think battles should go down like that.

I don't think Superman will win Round 1 since he holds back A LOT. By bet would probably be Hulk and Sentry. Juggernaut and Hulk both beat each other numerous time so it's liek a tie for me.

Round 2 for me would probably be Superman. I say this because, Sentry bloodlusted couldn't beat Hulk. They both basically cancelled each other out. They realeased so much energy that they went to human form. And then they would have to change back extremely quick or their out dead.

Round 3 is a hard one for me. Everyone would probably try to take juggernaut out first. none of their attacks would work even down to the skeleton to Juggernaut. You might think "It's a brawl, their not going to team up on Jug". But, it's only a matter of time before they realize he's not geting hurt at all. And you already know how juggernaut always talks about being "indestructable" and can't be hurt in a battle. Sentry is just going to use TP on him for a last resort.

So now it's Superman 1 Million vs Sentry vs Thor vs Hulk

This would be a hard round for me also. Hulk took on the whole Avengers and I think some of the X-Men and Professor couldn't even control him. If they don't hit him with a "one hitter quitter" it's going to amek him more pissed off. Keep in mind one of the bigest reasons Hulk doesn't like Banner is because Banner watched his mom die and did nothing. That would put him beyond any anger we've seen before. Kind of like what they did to Doomsday. Even hulk ona lower level of anger took a 100 trillion punch and got up right after it and swam through laval like it was nothing.

I don't know much about RKT Thor so I can't speak on him.

Didn't Void Sentry have Molecule Man scared of him?

Superman has no weakness so magic is a non factor. He did have a Green Lantern ring. He's immortal also so you'll have to KO him.

#30 Posted by Killemall (18274 posts) - - Show Bio

@Wardemon32: Sentry wasnt bloodlusted when he fought Hulk though, Bendis's art has always pointed to Sentry having black eyes when bloodlusted, perhaps an indication that he is tapping into some of Void's powers. He was bloodlusted when Ultron killed his wife, Linda, and he stars doing things which are nearly impossible, like ripping adamatium head off ultron, brining his dead wife back to life, coming back to life whenever he pleased and stuffs.

Void vs Molecule Man has few context:

1. It was written by Bendis :p

2. Molecule Man, after he beat Beyonder way back in FF Annual, depowered himself. At that time though he was causing trans-multiversal damange in the fight with Beyonder.

3. Molecule Man wanted to lose the fight with Sentry, a person created out of his consciousness stated he wanted to lose.

Also Molecule Man overpowered beyonder, but after he depowers himself we see Spiderman with a small portion of Beyonder powers for a nanosecond, beat Galactus , and a whole bunch of heroes and villian (Molecule Man included). Think of it this way, MM can and did beat and overpower Beyonder, had he not been depowered a person with a small fraction of Beyonder power pwning Molecule Man should not be possible right?

#31 Posted by Wardemon32 (4101 posts) - - Show Bio

@Killemall: Superman Prime 1 Million did the same thing with the "bringing back to life" thing.

#32 Posted by Killemall (18274 posts) - - Show Bio

@Wardemon32 said:

@Killemall: Superman Prime 1 Million did the same thing with the "bringing back to life" thing.

Firstly i though we were talking about Superman 1 million, as in Kal Kent, as opposed to Superman Prime 1 million as in Kal-El.

Secondly, no Kal - El did not, Lois was dead, and Kal Kel had help from 3 other supermen, and all he did was bring Lois back to life, together with them, from her DNA, into a completely different life form, as opposed to Sentry bring Linda back to life, exactly in flesh and everything and he didnt even need help.

#33 Posted by Wardemon32 (4101 posts) - - Show Bio

@Killemall:

All of this is still irrelevant. I don't think this will help in a battle much

#34 Posted by Killemall (18274 posts) - - Show Bio

@Wardemon32 said:

@Killemall:

All of this is still irrelevant. I don't think this will help in a battle much

Bringing someone back to life doesnt, ability to bring himself back to life i suppose does, something Sentry has shown multiple times. And we know, after Sentry vs Molecule Man that brining back to life Sentry doesnt using molecule manipulation, which is going to be helpful as no one here, barring Juggernaut, has shown any defense against Molecule Manipulation.

#35 Posted by isaac_clarke (5448 posts) - - Show Bio

@Killemall said:

@isaac_clarke said:

Depends on how it begins, if Thor goes moronic and tries to fight the Hulk like he normally does - sure. If Thor tries something different like slug it out with Superman, that could end up being a very different fight.

Thor vs Hulk depends on 2 things really, either they fight the way they fight with each other, in which case it could go either way, or they fight the way they should in which case Thor would win everything.

Thor in character more often than not brawls, and against a morals off Superman is going to have to contend with superior speed.

The Sentry never quite popped anyone as durable as Superman, although I'm inclined to believe there isn't much he could do to the Sentry at that point. Thor would be their best bet on the account of Mjolnir's ability to harm beings significantly more powerful.

Sentry durability changes with mental stability and anger apparently, but its inconsistently all the way through. Hulk had no problem beating the tar out of Sentry, but when driven the same Sentry goes couple of round with an amped up Ultron and despite their punches leaveling most of the building Sentry isnt even harmed or deterred, he nearly ripped Ultron's head off.

Then we have Terrax incident where Sentry holds his axe with but one hand.

Then we have versatility, telepathy and molecule manipulation, kind of makes it pretty hard to put someone like that down. He has brought himself back to life, he has even brought his dead wife back to life, Sentry despite inconsitency was written with some incredible leeway in terms of power, do whatever he wants, i think that wins him the round.

Wasn't Trion sporting some ridiculous amounts of power?

Physical strength he nearly destroyed an entire universe simply by punching, but Prof X was able to manipulate his psychic to convince Juggernaut to fight himself, it was even stated that since Trion has a crack in his helmet, which allows Prof X to use telepathy. Void has telepathy should have power to put him down.

My comment was more so directed at round one in regards to how it would play out if Thor decided to fight Clark instead of the Hulk. If Thor would pull that same trick he did to poke a hole through the Thing more often I'd be more inclined to believe he'd do that in a fight like this since his morality as of late is a bit more flexible.

I'm not entirely sure about anger - based off showings the Sentry is a reality warper to an extent, albeit he was more prone to play with atoms in the majority of his showings - his final form that was able to slug it out with Thor suggests he has that level of strength to contend - not to mention his ability to come back from any damage from a moment is useful in these fights - but I'll need to see him pop someone as durable as Superman and Thor to really say he can just go Manhattan in a fight.

@Killemall said:

@Wardemon32 said:

@Killemall: @isaac_clarke: Changed it to Rune King Thor since I found out he's teh strongest

That changes a lot, RKT has a lot of versatility, i think he would take round 3, only concerned about Juggernaut though, he doesnt have TP, perhaps he gains Odin's TP too, never shown on panel though.

You could argue it is likely a feature that comes along with the Odin Power or even a basic feature of being a divinity given how Thor can hear anyone's prayer the moment they invoke him.

#36 Posted by Dredeuced (5352 posts) - - Show Bio

@Killemall said:

@Wardemon32 said:

@Killemall:

All of this is still irrelevant. I don't think this will help in a battle much

Bringing someone back to life doesnt, ability to bring himself back to life i suppose does, something Sentry has shown multiple times. And we know, after Sentry vs Molecule Man that brining back to life Sentry doesnt using molecule manipulation, which is going to be helpful as no one here, barring Juggernaut, has shown any defense against Molecule Manipulation.

Non-classic Juggs has resistance to Molecular Manipulation?

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#37 Posted by Wardemon32 (4101 posts) - - Show Bio

bump

#38 Posted by New_World_Order (12547 posts) - - Show Bio

@Killemall said:

Round 1 : Superman

Round 2: Sentry - morals off neither Superman nor Hulk has answer to Sentry's exotic powers.

Round 3: Superman.

Superman should win round 1 because in character is has better feats in pretty much every catogery.

Senty would win round 2 because despite limited showing of strength and durability, a stable sentry has abilities like Matter Manipulation which Superman nor Hulk has any answer to.

Round 3 Superman 1 million has 5D powers (assuming we are talking Kal Kent) and telepathy, sufficient to take down both Trion and Sentry.

Maybe this.

#39 Posted by TheDEMON! (468 posts) - - Show Bio

@TheCannon said:

Round 1: Hm... I'll say Juggernaut.

Round 2: Even tougher. I'll say...Superman? Possibly Thor, but I'll say Superman

Round 3: Wow, now that's a good one. As much as I want to say RK Thor, I say Superman One Million wins.

#40 Posted by UltraSuperTrooper (676 posts) - - Show Bio

supes

sentry

thor

#41 Posted by Wardemon32 (4101 posts) - - Show Bio

bump!

#42 Posted by comic_book_fan (5296 posts) - - Show Bio

round 1 superman

round 2 hulk

round 3 superman

#43 Posted by HyperViper97 (1342 posts) - - Show Bio

Round three is a stomp. Trion juggernaut and RKT are ridiculous.

#44 Posted by Wardemon32 (4101 posts) - - Show Bio

@hyperviper97:

Do you know much about Superman Prime 1 Million?

#45 Posted by capall2 (1428 posts) - - Show Bio

Supes in every round...

#46 Posted by HyperViper97 (1342 posts) - - Show Bio

@wardemon32: yep. He's a future superman who'd been sundipping for what, 15000 years? He's also completely featless. There's nothing to suggest he can hang with reality warpers