I think superman win the first two rounds but with the void I don't his superboy prime would kill the void if he doesn't want to die.
Superman vs Sentry
@christhecomicpunk: Cool, here me putting in feats and stuff, please do know that with these feats i am trying to say Sentry is up there in power level with Superman, as opposed to what most people think i am saying when i post feat (i.e. Sentry would stomp Superman).
Starting with Origin and a bit of Hyperbole, which helps put things in perspective. Bob Reynold, a junkie gets a super serum, which sends his molecules rushing foward in the time stream, the serium also creates a "photosynthetic reaction" like Superman giving him boundless energy.
Like the professor put it "In effect, your powers are limitless"
"You are omnipotent. immortal"
Thats the true power of Sentry (omnipotent being a relative term in marvel).
Sentry stomped Terrax, well known in the vine, Terrax is also a bit of a jobber and Superman should be able to beat him just fine. However its "how" Sentry beat him thats impressive. Terrax fires an energy attack at Sentry, who blocks it with 1 hand, and physically over-powers Terrax with 1 hand just fine. While beating Terrax might not be as impressive, beating him with 1 hand surely is.
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Honestly it looks a lot more impressive, when you read the issue together with the script of Paul Jenkins.
The intention from the writer was to show Sentry is far beyond the level of normal heroes, and this is what Paul Jenkins, in his own script said was the intention of this issue.
"The point here is ...... to show just how bloody brilliant the Sentry really is"
When Sentry fought Genis Vell, he showed something impressive, he could channel energy from everywhere, while Genis , as photon (who was blinking entire universe in and out of existence a bit later during house of M story arc) was able to move Sentry energy around, evidently the energy released from Sentry was enough to "Shred entire worlds", a bit of a hyperbole maybe, we also see it was blowing things apart in the background. Sentry lost the fight because he got BFRed, he was never physically beaten here.
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So what was the feat i am trying to show? Being able to hold his own against a guy who, before power up (having absorbed the powers of moonstone) was able to go toe to toe with King Thor (very short fight), tank a combined blast from the Galactic council and had the Galactic council actually scared of him. And the fact that the blast is said to be powerful enough to destroy worldS helps.
Sentry also fought The Collective on even ground, the same person who just pwned both Iron Man and Binary with absolute ease. He never won though, and impressive feat there, they are able to actually destroy a moon (given the context and it lies between Earth and Mars and its roundish shape, i am guessing that was meant to be Demios), something Superman has never shown, which is cool.
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Now Sentry vs Absorbing Man, he fights Absorbing man and when he expressesly stops holding back, letting lose his energy Absorbing man is over-loaded. The feat is impressive because he has absorbed most of Odin power, as well as the power of a cosmic cube. Shows Sentry can release energy to overpower Absorbing man, which is energy significantly higher than any normal heroes like Thor or Silver Surfer can do, much higher.
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Absorbing recalls the loss, and states it damn nearly killed him, which i suppose is cool.
Now moving on to the well known fight with World War Hulk, which he lost. The fight is actually pretty impressive if you take the time to analyze what happened. First Sentry was mentally unstable, he mentioned how Void broke all the bones in Hulks body (of course Void side we are not talking about here) which show Bob is actually afraid, not of Hulk but of his own power. He also spends 29 hours on his doorstep. We know when Sentry is unstable, his power decreases, even when they fight Hulk he starts unleashing energy, which burns the whole city , Hulk himself needs help to put the fire out on him, and was going to kill everyone and everything on Earth had he not stopped. Sentry allows Hulk to defeat him, because not doing so would have killed everyone (something that happened in 1 what if, What IF World War Hulk, but thats non canon) and thanks him after the defeat.
Gallery
Greg Pak, actually explains the whole thing when someone asked him
So without going all out he unleashed so much energy that he was going to kill everyone on Earth, had World War Hulk burning and the whole city was on fire, cool aye.
3 days after the fight with Hulk and the city was still burning, that's what casualling unleashing Sentry power did.
Going next to his fight against Dr. Doom, once he called upon his magic both Iron Man and Ms Marvel were stark helpless against him, but Sentry just blitzes past his defenses with ease, which i think was pretty cool and showing of how much Sentry is above the likes of Iron Man and Ms Marvel.
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A second instance against Dr. Doom where he had Wonder Man, Ares , and other Mighty Avengers helpless against his defense, Sentry just breaches his defense and rips his armor apart. Wonder Man himself is actually pretty powerful and the issue clearly shows Sentry significantly beyond him, this easily puts him at the very least on Thor class and most likely above him.
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Then moving on to Sentry vs Blue Marvel, where Sentry barely beats Blue Marvel, its impressive because Blue Marvel was moving around astroid the size of a city, had a hydrogen bomb go off on his hand without any damage, defeated an entire alien armada on his own and nearly broke the moon in half with 1 hit.
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A purely physical fight between Sentry and the Void had potential to destroy all life on Earth.
There are other minor feats, but in crux:
1. Being able to destroy moon as a side effect.
2. Unleashing enough energy to destroy entire worlds.
3. Unleashing enough energy to nearly kill everyone on Earth, while holding back.
4. Defeating a moonbuster.
5. Unleashing so much energy that over-loaded Absorbing Man.
Alongside being shown to be significantly superior to guys like Terrax, Wonder Man, Iron Man, Ms Marvel (Binary), does show he is pretty easily at Superman level, wouldnt you agree?
@killemall said:
@christhecomicpunk: Cool, here me putting in feats and stuff, please do know that with these feats i am trying to say Sentry is up there in power level with Superman, as opposed to what most people think i am saying when i post feat (i.e. Sentry would stomp Superman).
Starting with Origin and a bit of Hyperbole, which helps put things in perspective. Bob Reynold, a junkie gets a super serum, which sends his molecules rushing foward in the time stream, the serium also creates a "photosynthetic reaction" like Superman giving him boundless energy.
Like the professor put it "In effect, your powers are limitless"
"You are omnipotent. immortal"
Thats the true power of Sentry (omnipotent being a relative term in marvel).
Sentry stomped Terrax, well known in the vine, Terrax is also a bit of a jobber and Superman should be able to beat him just fine. However its "how" Sentry beat him thats impressive. Terrax fires an energy attack at Sentry, who blocks it with 1 hand, and physically over-powers Terrax with 1 hand just fine. While beating Terrax might not be as impressive, beating him with 1 hand surely is.
Gallery
Honestly it looks a lot more impressive, when you read the issue together with the script of Paul Jenkins.
The intention from the writer was to show Sentry is far beyond the level of normal heroes, and this is what Paul Jenkins, in his own script said was the intention of this issue.
"The point here is ...... to show just how bloody brilliant the Sentry really is"
When Sentry fought Genis Vell, he showed something impressive, he could channel energy from everywhere, while Genis , as photon (who was blinking entire universe in and out of existence a bit later during house of M story arc) was able to move Sentry energy around, evidently the energy released from Sentry was enough to "Shred entire worlds", a bit of a hyperbole maybe, we also see it was blowing things apart in the background. Sentry lost the fight because he got BFRed, he was never physically beaten here.
Gallery
So what was the feat i am trying to show? Being able to hold his own against a guy who, before power up (having absorbed the powers of moonstone) was able to go toe to toe with King Thor (very short fight), tank a combined blast from the Galactic council and had the Galactic council actually scared of him. And the fact that the blast is said to be powerful enough to destroy worldS helps.
Sentry also fought The Collective on even ground, the same person who just pwned both Iron Man and Binary with absolute ease. He never won though, and impressive feat there, they are able to actually destroy a moon (given the context and it lies between Earth and Mars and its roundish shape, i am guessing that was meant to be Demios), something Superman has never shown, which is cool.
Gallery
Now Sentry vs Absorbing Man, he fights Absorbing man and when he expressesly stops holding back, letting lose his energy Absorbing man is over-loaded. The feat is impressive because he has absorbed most of Odin power, as well as the power of a cosmic cube. Shows Sentry can release energy to overpower Absorbing man, which is energy significantly higher than any normal heroes like Thor or Silver Surfer can do, much higher.
Gallery
Absorbing recalls the loss, and states it damn nearly killed him, which i suppose is cool.
Now moving on to the well known fight with World War Hulk, which he lost. The fight is actually pretty impressive if you take the time to analyze what happened. First Sentry was mentally unstable, he mentioned how Void broke all the bones in Hulks body (of course Void side we are not talking about here) which show Bob is actually afraid, not of Hulk but of his own power. He also spends 29 hours on his doorstep. We know when Sentry is unstable, his power decreases, even when they fight Hulk he starts unleashing energy, which burns the whole city , Hulk himself needs help to put the fire out on him, and was going to kill everyone and everything on Earth had he not stopped. Sentry allows Hulk to defeat him, because not doing so would have killed everyone (something that happened in 1 what if, What IF World War Hulk, but thats non canon) and thanks him after the defeat.
Gallery
Greg Pak, actually explains the whole thing when someone asked him
So without going all out he unleashed so much energy that he was going to kill everyone on Earth, had World War Hulk burning and the whole city was on fire, cool aye.
3 days after the fight with Hulk and the city was still burning, that's what casualling unleashing Sentry power did.
Going next to his fight against Dr. Doom, once he called upon his magic both Iron Man and Ms Marvel were stark helpless against him, but Sentry just blitzes past his defenses with ease, which i think was pretty cool and showing of how much Sentry is above the likes of Iron Man and Ms Marvel.
Gallery
A second instance against Dr. Doom where he had Wonder Man, Ares , and other Mighty Avengers helpless against his defense, Sentry just breaches his defense and rips his armor apart. Wonder Man himself is actually pretty powerful and the issue clearly shows Sentry significantly beyond him, this easily puts him at the very least on Thor class and most likely above him.
Gallery
Then moving on to Sentry vs Blue Marvel, where Sentry barely beats Blue Marvel, its impressive because Blue Marvel was moving around astroid the size of a city, had a hydrogen bomb go off on his hand without any damage, defeated an entire alien armada on his own and nearly broke the moon in half with 1 hit.
Gallery
A purely physical fight between Sentry and the Void had potential to destroy all life on Earth.
There are other minor feats, but in crux:
1. Being able to destroy moon as a side effect.
2. Unleashing enough energy to destroy entire worlds.
3. Unleashing enough energy to nearly kill everyone on Earth, while holding back.
4. Defeating a moonbuster.
5. Unleashing so much energy that over-loaded Absorbing Man.
Alongside being shown to be significantly superior to guys like Terrax, Wonder Man, Iron Man, Ms Marvel (Binary), does show he is pretty easily at Superman level, wouldnt you agree?
Nice scans. You've provided a lot of genuinely good feats here, some I didn't even know about. I don't doubt that Sentry is up there with Superman, although I still think Superman would win in a blood lusted fight. But, just a few things about some of those scans:
1. In his fight with The Collective, where exactly does it show them destroy a moon?
2. Dishing out energy to overwhelm Absorbing Man when he had absorbed power from Odin and a Cosmic Cube seems quite iffy for two reasons:
A) If Absorbing Man could take in power from people like Odin and even a Cosmic Cube, there's no reason he should have any trouble with Sentry.
B) I'm not an expert on Absorbing Man, but isn't he rather weak? I've always thought it didn't take much to beat him, so being able to absorb power from Odin and a CC seems weird.
@christhecomicpunk said:
To be fair thats all i set out to do :)
Once you agree on the underlying part thats all good, coz honestly i dont think it any differently
(it would change had we been talking about Sentry true potential, or Void, but we will get to then when the thread comes along, that would be another barriage of scan spammage.. fun :p )
Second scan last panel.
Lets try and put it one at a time.
Sentry flies away from the Earth towards Collective.
He then reaches past a moon (1st panel), then a red planet (guessing Mars) and the fight with Collective destroy the moon as you can see chunks of rocks after destruction flying around there.
After having temporarily BFRed Sentry (a scan i didnt post earlier) The Collective flies towards Earth, from Mars. We can see Mars, we can see Earth but the moon isnt thread, because they destroyed it in the fight
2. Dishing out energy to overwhelm Absorbing Man when he had absorbed power from Odin and a Cosmic Cube seems quite iffy for two reasons:
A) If Absorbing Man could take in power from people like Odin and even a Cosmic Cube, there's no reason he should have any trouble with Sentry.
B) I'm not an expert on Absorbing Man, but isn't he rather weak? I've always thought it didn't take much to beat him, so being able to absorb power from Odin and a CC seems weird.
Well thats because he unleashed the power in one go, but yeah potentially can be PIS.
I would have gotten this if the thread was about Sentry full potential, because he has absorbed entire cosmic cube in him as well as defeated a cosmic cube being in a fight (Molecule Man)
Absorbing Man isnt really weak, Thor has to always rely on plot to defeat him, but the has a convinent weakeness. You get him to come in contact with something weak or unstable, like water, gas, paper, thats what he becomes making him easier to deal with. Thats often how he is defeated.
@killemall said:
@christhecomicpunk: Cool, here me putting in feats and stuff, please do know that with these feats i am trying to say Sentry is up there in power level with Superman, as opposed to what most people think i am saying when i post feat (i.e. Sentry would stomp Superman).
Starting with Origin and a bit of Hyperbole, which helps put things in perspective. Bob Reynold, a junkie gets a super serum, which sends his molecules rushing foward in the time stream, the serium also creates a "photosynthetic reaction" like Superman giving him boundless energy.
Like the professor put it "In effect, your powers are limitless"
"You are omnipotent. immortal"
Thats the true power of Sentry (omnipotent being a relative term in marvel).
Sentry stomped Terrax, well known in the vine, Terrax is also a bit of a jobber and Superman should be able to beat him just fine. However its "how" Sentry beat him thats impressive. Terrax fires an energy attack at Sentry, who blocks it with 1 hand, and physically over-powers Terrax with 1 hand just fine. While beating Terrax might not be as impressive, beating him with 1 hand surely is.
Honestly it looks a lot more impressive, when you read the issue together with the script of Paul Jenkins.
The intention from the writer was to show Sentry is far beyond the level of normal heroes, and this is what Paul Jenkins, in his own script said was the intention of this issue.
"The point here is ...... to show just how bloody brilliant the Sentry really is"
When Sentry fought Genis Vell, he showed something impressive, he could channel energy from everywhere, while Genis , as photon (who was blinking entire universe in and out of existence a bit later during house of M story arc) was able to move Sentry energy around, evidently the energy released from Sentry was enough to "Shred entire worlds", a bit of a hyperbole maybe, we also see it was blowing things apart in the background. Sentry lost the fight because he got BFRed, he was never physically beaten here.
So what was the feat i am trying to show? Being able to hold his own against a guy who, before power up (having absorbed the powers of moonstone) was able to go toe to toe with King Thor (very short fight), tank a combined blast from the Galactic council and had the Galactic council actually scared of him. And the fact that the blast is said to be powerful enough to destroy worldS helps.
Sentry also fought The Collective on even ground, the same person who just pwned both Iron Man and Binary with absolute ease. He never won though, and impressive feat there, they are able to actually destroy a moon (given the context and it lies between Earth and Mars and its roundish shape, i am guessing that was meant to be Demios), something Superman has never shown, which is cool.
Now Sentry vs Absorbing Man, he fights Absorbing man and when he expressesly stops holding back, letting lose his energy Absorbing man is over-loaded. The feat is impressive because he has absorbed most of Odin power, as well as the power of a cosmic cube. Shows Sentry can release energy to overpower Absorbing man, which is energy significantly higher than any normal heroes like Thor or Silver Surfer can do, much higher.
Absorbing recalls the loss, and states it damn nearly killed him, which i suppose is cool.
Now moving on to the well known fight with World War Hulk, which he lost. The fight is actually pretty impressive if you take the time to analyze what happened. First Sentry was mentally unstable, he mentioned how Void broke all the bones in Hulks body (of course Void side we are not talking about here) which show Bob is actually afraid, not of Hulk but of his own power. He also spends 29 hours on his doorstep. We know when Sentry is unstable, his power decreases, even when they fight Hulk he starts unleashing energy, which burns the whole city , Hulk himself needs help to put the fire out on him, and was going to kill everyone and everything on Earth had he not stopped. Sentry allows Hulk to defeat him, because not doing so would have killed everyone (something that happened in 1 what if, What IF World War Hulk, but thats non canon) and thanks him after the defeat.
Greg Pak, actually explains the whole thing when someone asked him
So without going all out he unleashed so much energy that he was going to kill everyone on Earth, had World War Hulk burning and the whole city was on fire, cool aye.
3 days after the fight with Hulk and the city was still burning, that's what casualling unleashing Sentry power did.
Going next to his fight against Dr. Doom, once he called upon his magic both Iron Man and Ms Marvel were stark helpless against him, but Sentry just blitzes past his defenses with ease, which i think was pretty cool and showing of how much Sentry is above the likes of Iron Man and Ms Marvel.
A second instance against Dr. Doom where he had Wonder Man, Ares , and other Mighty Avengers helpless against his defense, Sentry just breaches his defense and rips his armor apart. Wonder Man himself is actually pretty powerful and the issue clearly shows Sentry significantly beyond him, this easily puts him at the very least on Thor class and most likely above him.
Then moving on to Sentry vs Blue Marvel, where Sentry barely beats Blue Marvel, its impressive because Blue Marvel was moving around astroid the size of a city, had a hydrogen bomb go off on his hand without any damage, defeated an entire alien armada on his own and nearly broke the moon in half with 1 hit.
A purely physical fight between Sentry and the Void had potential to destroy all life on Earth.
There are other minor feats, but in crux:
1. Being able to destroy moon as a side effect.
2. Unleashing enough energy to destroy entire worlds.
3. Unleashing enough energy to nearly kill everyone on Earth, while holding back.
4. Defeating a moonbuster.
5. Unleashing so much energy that over-loaded Absorbing Man.
Alongside being shown to be significantly superior to guys like Terrax, Wonder Man, Iron Man, Ms Marvel (Binary), does show he is pretty easily at Superman level, wouldnt you agree?
Sentry does stand a chance of winning.
Bad form boyscout!!!!
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