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Mutants: Namor,Hope Summers,Magik,Iceman
Supes is bloodlusted
Team is not holding back
Win by any means
Juggernaut isn't a mutant.
Looks like the OP has been watching the X-Men movies.
Anyways, team takes this.
@comicsrulebutdbzdoes2: hmm i see what your saying
@taabz: I would agree with you, if not for the whole "Bobby can transfer his consciousness into like any water molecule in the planet" thing.
Jmarshmallow
@jmarshmallow: Exactly Iceman is enough :)
supes will win. he can attack magik before she even knows the fight has started.
she would have to attack him first then
@icecold14: I would have to agree.
Although I don't know how Bobby would actually put down Supes.
Jmarshmallow
@jmarshmallow: I always went with Stalemate since Superman and Iceman wont hurt each other at all...
but with other mutants helping him in this fight thats the reason i see them winning :)
@icecold14: I agree actually.
Together, the Team wins because Iceman can distract Supes and someone else can take him out. Like Magik.
Jmarshmallow
@jmarshmallow: Exactly my friend :)
@icecold14: Good stuff mate!
Jmarshmallow
Supes is bloodlusted
Team is not holding back
Sups super speed's towards them and punch holes right through their heads before they even get the chance to react.
@jmarshmallow: We should do this more my friend :) fights would have a winner much sooner...
no one can even react to clark. it's kind of hard to win a fight when u are dead before u know the fight even starts. supes wins easily.
@christianrapper: how's he killing bobby and Cain? Best case scenario for supes is a stalemate.
@christianrapper: KO Bobby?? i already stated that Iceman and Superman stalemate and trust me this is coming from a fan of both heroes :)
Why is it presumed stalemate when iceman can freeze superman a blood or solidify liquid in the air I. Superman making him explode or going to absoulate zero where no molecular activity happens which mean he can't move, if booby can put down Thor which he has done who has higher durability than supes I see no reason he can't put supes down eapcially not holding back
Why is it presumed stalemate when iceman can freeze superman a blood or solidify liquid in the air I. Superman making him explode or going to absoulate zero where no molecular activity happens which mean he can't move, if booby can put down Thor which he has done who has higher durability than supes I see no reason he can't put supes down eapcially not holding back
that isn't true. superman is already moving. superman won't freeze in mid air. he keeps his momentum. superman can hit bobby before he even knows a fight has even started.
Superman wins... as for Bobby spreading his consciousness around isn't that a tko (win by any means)? Or Supes can just throw him into the Sun for a quick bfr.
good day
@christianrapper: what the hell you talking about I don't care if he's flying do you know absolute zero means? He physically will be stopped beacuse there's no molecular activity at absolute zero
@christianrapper: what the hell you talking about I don't care if he's flying do you know absolute zero means? He physically will be stopped beacuse there's no molecular activity at absolute zero
that isn't true. an object in motion will keep it's momentum. also, superman flies way faster than bobby can react. he will hit bobby before iceman even know the fight has started.
@christianrapper: wow he hits bobby for one he can just reform effortlessly 2 he can stay intangible in. His most form and still use his abilities and no your wrong everything loses it's monumental in absoulate zero even flash vs captain cold
Clark murderstomps everyone except Bobby, who can't really be killed, so they eventually become friends and are a new dynamic duo.
@christianrapper: wow he hits bobby for one he can just reform effortlessly 2 he can stay intangible in. His most form and still use his abilities and no your wrong everything loses it's monumental in absoulate zero even flash vs captain cold
in a d.c. comic book that happens. in the real world no it doesn't. if u threw a baseball into absolute zero, the ball will keep it's momentum.
Win by any means... Superman BFR's Juggernaught the moment he notices he can't physically damage him. Magik teleporting him to limbo should be a viable win condition, but her teleportation requires portals and are limited by her human reaction time.
Current Ice Man is heavily overrated and he can't go too cold or he'll kill Magik.
This is just another veiled Superman vs Ice Man Thread.
Can Bobby's Absolute Zero -of which he is rather feat thirsty- actually damage Superman? It's debatable. Putting Bobby up against powerhouses really irks me though... I mean, if there were a comic of Thor/Hyperion/Blue Marvel vs Ice Man, how do you think it would end out?
On the Vine it would just be another agree to disagree thread because Bobby is literally immortal and impossible to be KO'd here.
@boringperson: iceman has owned Thor Thor has arguably better durability if not equal to supes, bobby can put him down
@christianrapper: wow he hits bobby for one he can just reform effortlessly 2 he can stay intangible in. His most form and still use his abilities and no your wrong everything loses it's monumental in absoulate zero even flash vs captain cold
in a d.c. comic book that happens. in the real world no it doesn't. if u threw a baseball into absolute zero, the ball will keep it's momentum.
In the real world I hope you understand you're wrong, and that Superman doesn't exist. We're discussing comic books.
@boringperson: iceman has owned Thor Thor has arguably better durability if not equal to supes, bobby can put him down
whaaaaaa?
Scans! (Or at least title and issue #) I gotta see this!
Lets start with that we have
1. Superman is bloodlusted. This means that Superman will be blitzing to win and kill.
2. Team which includes Namor,Juggernaut,Magik,Iceman is not holding back. This means that the team will fight to the best of their abilities.
3. Win by any means. There can be death, BFR destruction of any magnitude possible to the individuals and the surrounding keeping in mind the current power levels.
What we don't know is that
1. Whether bloodlusted Superman has normal morals or not. Here going by what we have we can say he is extremely pissed, is willing to initiate the attack and do so brutally but not with the intent to kill.
2. No detail about how the mutants will behave other that giving their all so as per normal battle rules we can surmise that they are in character. This means that Iceman, Namor and Magik that are generally good guys will not be attacking with anger and definitely not be attacking with the intent to kill. One can go as far as to say they will not even initiate the attack until the need to defend. On the other hand Juggernaut while in character can and probably will initiate the attack. Being in character also implies that since Iceman, Namor and Magik are generally good guys they will not help Juggernaut and vise versa that is until they are certain all are fighting on the same side.
3. We have no information how far everyone is to each other so we can assume they are close enough to hear each other yelling or otherwise.
4. If they have prior information on each other so we assume none does of the other side and have had no prep time
The battle
Since superman is bloodlusted he will attack first and since he has the speed advantage his attack will be the first to connect. Lets assume he attacks Juggernaut first, the other mutants staying in character will not retaliate automatically and we will have Superman vs the 3.
If Superman attacks the 3 first Juggernaut wont automatically retaliate. Furthermore no matter which of the 3 Superman attacks he has the speed and the power to knock all of them out before they realize they are being attacked.
The effectiveness of this blitz will depend upon a few questions that i dont know the answer to
Does any of the mutants have the reaction speed see and react to a bloodlusted superman blitz? Granted they have the powers, abilities and the capacity to counter some or most of his attacks but before they can do that, do they not require to know Superman is bloodlusted and what level of threat he poses. In other words does Juggernaut have the reaction speed to start moving before he is punched like He'l, and similarly can Iceman transfer his consciousness before being knocked out?
Based on this I say its Superman's win but as I've never know these guys to be very fast characters but I may be wrong and Iceman may have reactions faster than sound and be able to freeze superman before he can close the distance between himself and Iceman?
@christianrapper: wow he hits bobby for one he can just reform effortlessly 2 he can stay intangible in. His most form and still use his abilities and no your wrong everything loses it's monumental in absoulate zero even flash vs captain cold
in a d.c. comic book that happens. in the real world no it doesn't. if u threw a baseball into absolute zero, the ball will keep it's momentum.
In the real world I hope you understand you're wrong, and that Superman doesn't exist. We're discussing comic books.
superman is already moving. he won't just freeze in midair. also, isn't this a mixed universe. bobby isn't he flash and this isn't a d.c. comic book so he won't just freeze. he won't be able to to react to superman because he is too fast. bobby can't flash freeze superman into absolute zero because supes has heat vision. any amount of heat negates absolute zero. so there is no way for bobby to freeze supes into absolute zero anyway so it's a moot point.
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