superman vs marvel strongest

supes solos!! and easily 

Since when are any of them Marvel's strongest?
 
And is this a fight to the death or an arm wrestling match? Because he'll have a tough time with Thor alone in a fight.

"worldbreak  hulk Thor hercules (current)ares sentry   vs  superman     morals on  5 hr prep area: earth  "

@Valtot said:

"@HolySerpent: its a magic dispel aura but none of that matters as only thor has shown the reaction speed to actually react while none of them have shown the foot speed for a constant super speed battle "

Thor can solo this.

" @comicdude23: isnt superman speed effecient enough to dodge the hammer.  and didnt the phantom stranger remove his weakness to magic ?  "

@Valtot said:

"@HolySerpent: im guessing its just his own aura being made magic resistant as that was the problem with magic being able to bypass his aura easier than normal "

" @HolySerpent said:

" @comicdude23: isnt superman speed effecient enough to dodge the hammer.  and didnt the phantom stranger remove his weakness to magic ?  "

yes, 
 

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" @CAPiTA: reasons? "

@deadpoolvironfist:

i meant in the strongest in physical department lol

" @CAPiTA: and i countered that with the fact he still absorbs energy even if drained, thor doesnt have much control over his energy draining just raw power and the fact thor has no reason to think superman can absorb energy "

" @CAPiTA: i can only think of 3 times where thor drained energy and it was always raw energy never a specific time though probalby in a 5 seconds or so while superman has shown to recharge from being drained in that same amount of time, your right there is a big difference and while sun dipping kryptonains take in constantly high amounts of solar radiation for watether amount of time they sit in like a few minutes puts there strength levels into easily planet moving and this is after a few hours so its not about how fast they absorb but the amount there absorbing like when superman absorbed the meggedon warhead that could wipe out half the galaxy and he did that in moments as well its not about how fast but the amount they can absorb and when sitting in the sun there absorbing heaps "

Thor could solo this. And if he couldn't then he'd have some help from worldbreaker Hulk.

" @CAPiTA: actually kara could of been absorbing solar radiation longer than superman as there was solar lamps in her ship the entire time and shes technically older than him, the difference between them is the fact superman is a adult male and shes a teenage girl, than the fact he holds back a vast majority of the time even in fights and he has more control over his powers, it doesnt get extremely slow after a while your just making things up "

Isn't there enough debate about Superman vs Hulk and Superman vs Thor in solo matches to believe him having to go through both plus the others is very unlikely if not impossible? I understand the speed blitz but I doubt he can one shot any of them and realistically one shot to him from any of these would be enough to slow him down just enough for Sentry or Thor to land a blow, and after all that he'd basically be playing defense to he was worn down or defeated.Plus with morals he's not trying his hardest cause he won't be trying to kill any of them so he'd be holding back and WB Hulk and Ares wouldn't (Yes I realize Ares isn't near Supes levels) b/c of there morals. I think it'd be a good and long fight just not one Supes can pull out a win in.

" @Valtot said:

" @czarny_samael: ive never seen thor track energy scans?  never seen this either just him draining large amounts of energy for plot purposes  superman can recharge in seconds not a second "

1.He barely had to do it... Hmmm... I know that I've read about it in one of comics in which he has done some great feat (half of year ago I was looking for his greatest feats on KMC and then downloading comics in which he has done it, to know context, later I've read whole Thor v2)... But Mjolnir is capable doing almost anything with energy.
2.This is easier. Thor have already absorbed enrgy, that he later released (shooted) to Black Galaxy and turned on a star.
3.When Superman showed so great recharging?
 
@HolySerpent said:

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@deadpoolvironfist:

i meant in the strongest in physical department lol

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And their not. Ares is 70 tonner, Herc is human now. If You didn't want to use other powerhouses like Thanos, I would suggest Blue Marvel or classci Herc.
But if You really want to make a test for Supe do this things:
1.Equal all fighters reaction speed.
2.Take off Thor. He is not only strong. He has Plot-machine (Mjolnir), which can BFR Superman, drain him, take him down by anti-matter blasts (that will be even more effective against someone who depends on outside source of energy IMO), imprison him in Infinity Vortex, etc. (((I personally would combine some of these powers :D )))
3.Place here people who depends on strength in this level. 
  
 
 
cant superman send thor to the phantom zone.
@Valtot said:

" @HolySerpent: godblast which is easily dodged "

Godblast won't be dodged. The problem is that Thor would need to charge it, so it is useless in 1 vs. 1 battle. And here we have it. "

" Yat hadnt ever absorbed solar radiation before and it takes first time kryptonians a while to fully develop there powers and yes Yat was developing his powers quickly and developed heat vision and even reverted to using mostly his physical power when fighting prime "

" the second he touched sunlight with simply his hand he shrugged off a bunch of heroes who were on him and casually went into the air "

Are you'll kidding me? How can Supes take this? Thor vs Superman would be a good match alone. How can Supes take Thor with support from other 100+'s?  Thor and Herc could take him 2 v 1 with moderate difficulty

"Since when are any of them Marvel's strongest?  And is this a fight to the death or an arm wrestling match? Because he'll have a tough time with Thor alone in a fight. "