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Superman cant use any of his abilities other than his healing ability, speed and his strength. . No blitzing. Just combat speed feats allowed if youre going to go the speed route.

His opponents are:

Rhino, Ironclad, Sasquatch, Wendigo, Colossus, Thing.

Can he beat them all at once?

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Superman even with the restrictions wins

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@dondave said:

Superman even with the restrictions wins

really? wow, can hulk do that?

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Superman cant use any of his abilities other than his healing ability, speed and his strength. . No blitzing. Just combat speed feats allowed if youre going to go the speed route.

His opponents are:

Rhino, Ironclad, Sasquatch, Wendigo, Colossus, Thing.

Can he beat them all at once?

Isn't combat speed a fallacy?

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#5  Edited By bigcimmerian

@dondave said:

Superman even with the restrictions wins

really? wow, can hulk do that?

Superman destroys them, he's simply much more powerful and stronger. As for your question, yes Hulk could do the same, but he will strugle more because his base stats are much lower than Supes.

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@perezite said:
@inconvenient_truth said:

Superman cant use any of his abilities other than his healing ability, speed and his strength. . No blitzing. Just combat speed feats allowed if youre going to go the speed route.

His opponents are:

Rhino, Ironclad, Sasquatch, Wendigo, Colossus, Thing.

Can he beat them all at once?

Isn't combat speed a fallacy?

i dont think so. thats like saying usain bolt has faster combat speed than bruce lee.

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#7  Edited By Perezite

@perezite said:
@inconvenient_truth said:

Superman cant use any of his abilities other than his healing ability, speed and his strength. . No blitzing. Just combat speed feats allowed if youre going to go the speed route.

His opponents are:

Rhino, Ironclad, Sasquatch, Wendigo, Colossus, Thing.

Can he beat them all at once?

Isn't combat speed a fallacy?

i dont think so. thats like saying usain bolt has faster combat speed than bruce lee.

http://outskirtsbattledome.wikispaces.com/Combat+Speed+Fallacy

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muscle memory makes someone faster in combat than a sprinter who is the faster person. sprinter=traveling speed. fighter=combat speed.

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#9  Edited By New_World_Order

Superman.

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Can you elaborate on what you're asking? Are you suggesting that Superman doesnt have super-human combat speed?

Superman clearly has very high travel speed, but he also has very high combat speed... in the way of fast perception and reaction times... fast enough to be a blur, or even invisible, to normal humans.

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Yeah..Supe's still wins.

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muscle memory makes someone faster in combat than a sprinter who is the faster person. sprinter=traveling speed. fighter=combat speed.

But what if that person can do all three things that that link I showed you can do?

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@perezite: if one person has faster travel speed and faster combat speed then he's faster than someone who doesnt have it. i dont understand the confusion. do you not see the difference between running or flying fast and fighting fast???

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@perezite said:

@inconvenient_truth said:

muscle memory makes someone faster in combat than a sprinter who is the faster person. sprinter=traveling speed. fighter=combat speed.

But what if that person can do all three things that that link I showed you can do?

Your link states 3 things necessary to describe combat speed:

"- The ability to move at that speed

- The ability to perceive an opponent moving at that speed

- The ability to react at that speed"

These 3 things cannot be defined separately, and in fact have to happen simultaneously, consecutively, and for extended periods of time to be labelled as "combat" speed. This is because a fight is far different from a race.

The dude gave a valuable argument; do you think Usain Bolt has faster combat speed than Bruce Lee? That seems to be what the biased writer of said article seems to think, based on his flawed logic.

The "essence" of the combat speed argument is that feats > claims

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@perezite: if one person has faster travel speed and faster combat speed then he's faster than someone who doesnt have it. i dont understand the confusion. do you not see the difference between running or flying fast and fighting fast???

What I'm saying is this:

"Realistically, to fight at a certain speed requires no more than the following:

- The ability to move at that speed

- The ability to perceive an opponent moving at that speed

- The ability to react at that speed

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@perezite said:
@inconvenient_truth said:

@perezite: if one person has faster travel speed and faster combat speed then he's faster than someone who doesnt have it. i dont understand the confusion. do you not see the difference between running or flying fast and fighting fast???

What I'm saying is this:

"Realistically, to fight at a certain speed requires no more than the following:

- The ability to move at that speed

- The ability to perceive an opponent moving at that speed

- The ability to react at that speed

yea, thats what combat speed is. where is the disconnect?

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@perezite said:
@inconvenient_truth said:

@perezite: if one person has faster travel speed and faster combat speed then he's faster than someone who doesnt have it. i dont understand the confusion. do you not see the difference between running or flying fast and fighting fast???

What I'm saying is this:

"Realistically, to fight at a certain speed requires no more than the following:

- The ability to move at that speed

- The ability to perceive an opponent moving at that speed

- The ability to react at that speed

yea, thats what combat speed is. where is the disconnect?

What I'm trying to say is that Supes has high combat speed since he's demonstrated all three of those things.

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@perezite said:
@inconvenient_truth said:
@perezite said:
@inconvenient_truth said:

@perezite: if one person has faster travel speed and faster combat speed then he's faster than someone who doesnt have it. i dont understand the confusion. do you not see the difference between running or flying fast and fighting fast???

What I'm saying is this:

"Realistically, to fight at a certain speed requires no more than the following:

- The ability to move at that speed

- The ability to perceive an opponent moving at that speed

- The ability to react at that speed

yea, thats what combat speed is. where is the disconnect?

What I'm trying to say is that Supes has high combat speed since he's demonstrated all three of those things.

well, yea, everyone knows that superman has faster combat speed than those marvel bricks.