Superman vs. Majestic

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#1 Posted by industrious (482 posts) - 2 years, 4 months ago - Show Bio

You know the guy. Lots of red. Hero to his people. And as the champion of the common worker, fights a never-ending battle for Stalin, communism and the international expansion of the Warsaw Pact.
 
Okay. Maybe not the guy you're thinking about. This is Superman from Red Son; Earth-30. He's...slightly different than the usual Man of Steel.



 


 
The fight takes place in Siberia, middle of nowhere. No prep time for either of them, morals are on(not that either of them really had them), and they start 1 mile away from each other.
#2 Posted by PirateKing69 (4290 posts) - 2 years, 4 months ago - Show Bio

is this superman stronger then current?

#3 Posted by industrious (482 posts) - 2 years, 4 months ago - Show Bio

He's faster, but the most we see him do strength-wise is lift skyscrapers.
 
And this:

#4 Posted by PirateKing69 (4290 posts) - 2 years, 4 months ago - Show Bio

If that's his biggest strength feat Majestic should win without much trouble doesn't he move planets...

#5 Posted by crackerjack82 (2564 posts) - 2 years, 4 months ago - Show Bio

Mr Majestic, he is what superman aspires to be, he will never beat him 
 
Mr Majestic all the way

#6 Posted by Darth Malek (86 posts) - 2 years, 4 months ago - Show Bio

this superman is akin to silver age only raised in the soviet union

#7 Posted by _Courage_ (1183 posts) - 2 years, 4 months ago - Show Bio

Majestic
#8 Posted by industrious (482 posts) - 2 years, 4 months ago - Show Bio

Even though this isn't regular Superman?
 
This one is quite a bit faster.

#9 Posted by PirateKing69 (4290 posts) - 2 years, 4 months ago - Show Bio

Majestic is faster then reg superman to

#10 Posted by TheFlash4740 (1263 posts) - 2 years, 4 months ago - Show Bio

I hate that picture of him. U couldnt find a picture of him without him stepping on the US Flag? Cmon now.

#11 Posted by King Saturn (211364 posts) - 2 years, 4 months ago - Show Bio
I think Majestic would defeat Red Son Superman
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#12 Posted by ssejllenrad (11547 posts) - 2 years, 4 months ago - Show Bio

Majestic is leagues above current Superman while this version is just slightly above current Supes. Majestic wins.

#13 Posted by industrious (482 posts) - 2 years, 4 months ago - Show Bio
@TheFlash4740 said:
" I hate that picture of him. U couldnt find a picture of him without him stepping on the US Flag? Cmon now. "
Nothing nearly as...imposing.
 
@ssejllenrad said:
" Majestic is leagues above current Superman while this version is just slightly above current Supes. Majestic wins. "
Except this Supes is fast. Zoom-fast.
#14 Posted by TheFlash4740 (1263 posts) - 2 years, 4 months ago - Show Bio
@industrious said:
" @TheFlash4740 said:
" I hate that picture of him. U couldnt find a picture of him without him stepping on the US Flag? Cmon now. "
Nothing nearly as...imposing.
 
@ssejllenrad said:
" Majestic is leagues above current Superman while this version is just slightly above current Supes. Majestic wins. "
Except this Supes is fast. Zoom-fast. "
What lol. How is he faster than Wally, yet alone be as fast as someone who makes Flash look like a snail
#15 Posted by tensor (3315 posts) - 2 years, 4 months ago - Show Bio
@ssejllenrad: really what has current majestic done recently
#16 Posted by industrious (482 posts) - 2 years, 4 months ago - Show Bio
@TheFlash4740 said:
" @industrious said:
" @TheFlash4740 said:
" I hate that picture of him. U couldnt find a picture of him without him stepping on the US Flag? Cmon now. "
Nothing nearly as...imposing.
 
@ssejllenrad said:
" Majestic is leagues above current Superman while this version is just slightly above current Supes. Majestic wins. "
Except this Supes is fast. Zoom-fast. "
What lol. How is he faster than Wally, yet alone be as fast as someone who makes Flash look like a snail "
He moves at 10x the speed of thought.
#17 Posted by Buckshot (18202 posts) - 2 years, 4 months ago - Show Bio
@industrious said:

@ssejllenrad said:
" Majestic is leagues above current Superman while this version is just slightly above current Supes. Majestic wins. "
Except this Supes is fast. Zoom-fast. "
Zoom fast? Please substantiate that claim. 
 
@tensor said:
" @ssejllenrad: really what has current majestic done recently "
Moved the planet...again... Survived an everything-cutting sword through the neck...again...
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#18 Posted by crackerjack82 (2564 posts) - 2 years, 4 months ago - Show Bio

Survived the end of the world, via clones of the high, one of which he broke the neck with a single punch

#19 Posted by PirateKing69 (4290 posts) - 2 years, 4 months ago - Show Bio
@Buckshot: i seen scans of him rearranging a solar system he really did that or was it out of context....and that would count as a strength feat correct?
#20 Posted by TheFlash4740 (1263 posts) - 2 years, 4 months ago - Show Bio
@industrious said:
" @TheFlash4740 said:
" @industrious said:
" @TheFlash4740 said:
" I hate that picture of him. U couldnt find a picture of him without him stepping on the US Flag? Cmon now. "
Nothing nearly as...imposing.
 
@ssejllenrad said:
" Majestic is leagues above current Superman while this version is just slightly above current Supes. Majestic wins. "
Except this Supes is fast. Zoom-fast. "
What lol. How is he faster than Wally, yet alone be as fast as someone who makes Flash look like a snail "
He moves at 10x the speed of thought. "
I think Current supes moves that fast to be honest. Zoom laughs at 10x the speed of thought. So does Wally. 
 
No one moves "Zoom fast" except for Zoom.
#21 Edited by tensor (3315 posts) - 2 years, 4 months ago - Show Bio
@Buckshot: when did he move a planet again i have been out of wildcats for a while ?last wildcats i read was with the fight between zealot an midnighter
#22 Posted by vcreed2002 (412 posts) - 2 years, 4 months ago - Show Bio
@crackerjack82 said:
"Mr Majestic, he is what superman aspires to be, he will never beat him   Mr Majestic all the way "

This
#23 Posted by Mercy_ (83817 posts) - 2 years, 4 months ago - Show Bio

Zoom isn't actually fast. Zoom manipulates the time-stream around himself. Fairly certain that no Superman is capable of doing that.  
 
@Buckshot: Do you have precog or something? I swear the second Maj is so much as mentioned you show up. :P

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#24 Edited by industrious (482 posts) - 2 years, 4 months ago - Show Bio

He's also fast enough to catch a bullet fired from a gun pressed against another man's head from five feet away...after the trigger was pulled.
 
And can travel 800mi in shorter than the amount of time it takes to say "collide."

#25 Posted by crackerjack82 (2564 posts) - 2 years, 4 months ago - Show Bio
@tensor:  he moves it whenever it suits his mood, you know the man does not like winter
#26 Posted by Buckshot (18202 posts) - 2 years, 4 months ago - Show Bio
@industrious said:

" @TheFlash4740 said:

" @industrious said:
" @TheFlash4740 said:
" I hate that picture of him. U couldnt find a picture of him without him stepping on the US Flag? Cmon now. "
Nothing nearly as...imposing.
 
@ssejllenrad said:
" Majestic is leagues above current Superman while this version is just slightly above current Supes. Majestic wins. "
Except this Supes is fast. Zoom-fast. "
What lol. How is he faster than Wally, yet alone be as fast as someone who makes Flash look like a snail "
He moves at 10x the speed of thought. "
The speed of a normal human's thought. Doesn't make him Zoom fast. 
 
@PirateKing69 said:

" @Buckshot: i seen scans of him rearranging a solar system he really did that or was it out of context....and that would count as a strength feat correct? "


He did it and the way we look at comics, it's a strength feat.  
 
@tensor said: 

@Buckshot: when did he move a planet again i have been out of wildcats for a while ?last wildcats i read was with the fight between zealot an midnighter "


After the end of the world after High Clones (someone mentioned this earlier in the thread) knocked it off its axis.
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#27 Posted by Buckshot (18202 posts) - 2 years, 4 months ago - Show Bio
@The Dark Huntress said:
" Zoom isn't actually fast. Zoom manipulates the time-stream around himself. Fairly certain that no Superman is capable of doing that.  
 
@Buckshot: Do you have precog or something? I swear the second Maj is so much as mentioned you show up. :P "
:) If you notice though, I haven't actually said who wins yet.
 
@industrious said:
" He's also fast enough to catch a bullet fired from a gun pressed against another man's head from five feet away...after the trigger was pulled.  And can travel 800mi in shorter than the amount of time it takes to say "collide." "
I'm not saying he isn't fast, but these aren't Zoom-level feats. Flashes can do this and Maj has done better (though I wouldn't call it standard or anything). 
 
@crackerjack82 said:
" @tensor:  he moves it whenever it suits his mood, you know the man does not like winter "
lol
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#28 Posted by crackerjack82 (2564 posts) - 2 years, 4 months ago - Show Bio

 @The Dark Huntress
 
No buckshot just knows when Mr. Majestic is involved,his brain tingles it is Majestic senses.

#29 Posted by Mercy_ (83817 posts) - 2 years, 4 months ago - Show Bio
@crackerjack82 LOL.

@Buckshot I noticed. ;)
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#30 Posted by TheFlash4740 (1263 posts) - 2 years, 4 months ago - Show Bio
@The Dark Huntress said:

" Zoom isn't actually fast. Zoom manipulates the time-stream around himself. Fairly certain that no Superman is capable of doing that.  
 


Fast:
Acting, moving, or capable of acting or moving quickly; swift.
 
Sounds fast to me. I know he minipulates time. But he has Ran around the world with Wally. Which if he really only minipulated time, would of taken him years. So in essense, yes, he minipulates time, but he is also. Fast.
#31 Posted by crackerjack82 (2564 posts) - 2 years, 4 months ago - Show Bio

he is traversing distance though alterations of time, the earth itself moves, very fast for that matter, that is why he can move such great distance, he diplaces himself from time and gravity and allows the planet to do the work, granted that is just my theory, i could be way off, but still Red Son superman is not that fast, second he still cant beat Majestic

#32 Posted by Static Shock (47330 posts) - 2 years, 4 months ago - Show Bio

Majestic

#33 Posted by TheFlash4740 (1263 posts) - 2 years, 4 months ago - Show Bio
@crackerjack82 said:
" he is traversing distance though alterations of time, the earth itself moves, very fast for that matter, that is why he can move such great distance, he diplaces himself from time and gravity and allows the planet to do the work, granted that is just my theory, i could be way off, but still Red Son superman is not that fast, second he still cant beat Majestic "
Good theory. Ive always been confused on how he moves at his own timeline...yet still manages to run around the world many times with Wally....Maybe this is the Awnser...maybe not.
 
But its off the subject, Yea Majestic wins from what im seeing so far.
#34 Posted by PowerHerc (50967 posts) - 2 years, 4 months ago - Show Bio

Majestic wins this.
#35 Posted by superdemon (2342 posts) - 2 years, 4 months ago - Show Bio
@TheFlash4740 said:
" I hate that picture of him. U couldnt find a picture of him without him stepping on the US Flag? Cmon now. "
I love that pic.
#36 Posted by TheFlash4740 (1263 posts) - 2 years, 4 months ago - Show Bio
@superdemon said:
" @TheFlash4740 said:
" I hate that picture of him. U couldnt find a picture of him without him stepping on the US Flag? Cmon now. "
I love that pic. "
Im sure you do.
#37 Posted by Valtot (4502 posts) - 2 years, 4 months ago - Show Bio

Red Son superman wins as his thoughtspeed/ reactions are far faster as i though majestic only had nanosecond and hes alot smarter so there matched atleast in that, going off how all his other powers are its easy to think he has planetary strength
#38 Posted by ryanthereaper (414 posts) - 2 years, 4 months ago - Show Bio

Mr. Majestic has got this in spades.

#39 Posted by ThanosIsMad (2083 posts) - 2 years, 4 months ago - Show Bio
@Valtot said:
" Red Son superman wins as his thoughtspeed/ reactions are far faster as i though majestic only had nanosecond and hes alot smarter so there matched atleast in that, going off how all his other powers are its easy to think he has planetary strength "
Majestic reacts in picoseconds.  The man came up with plans for a device, built the device, scrapped the device, and built it again within a nanosecond.  Each individual step is done within a fraction of a nanosecond. 
#40 Edited by Valtot (4502 posts) - 2 years, 4 months ago - Show Bio
@ThanosIsMad:
yes thats what i meant as in superman talks for a couple of sentences than mentions hes only got about a nanosecond left than speeds off doing all this within a nanosecond which shows they both move alot faster than a nanosecond
#41 Posted by Static Shock (47330 posts) - 2 years, 4 months ago - Show Bio
@Valtot: The showing in question only shows Superman moving from point A to point B within a certain amount of time (nanosecond). That's different from displaying the ability to operate or build things within nanoseconds.
#42 Posted by Valtot (4502 posts) - 2 years, 4 months ago - Show Bio
@Static Shock:
im not sure were talking about the same feat and majestic is famous for his intellect with building things,the feat im talking about was superman holding the baby that was releasing all the energy what feat are you talking about, superman also has a feat of going from near the vega system to earth in minutes which goes to near a million times the speed of light in space which again he shows he matches majestic at
#43 Posted by Valtot (4502 posts) - 2 years, 4 months ago - Show Bio

just curious how fast is 10X the speed of thought too nanoseconds
#44 Posted by Static Shock (47330 posts) - 2 years, 4 months ago - Show Bio
@Valtot said:
the feat im talking about was superman holding the baby that was releasing all the energy
I'm talking about the same exact feat, and in that feat, Superman states that he needs a nanosecond to get from one place to another. That's not a showing of reaction time or operational speed.
 
@Valtot said:
superman also has a feat of going from near the vega system to earth in minutes which goes to near a million times the speed of light in space which again he shows he matches
You mean the PIS feat he had in Countdown after hearing Jimmy's distress call? LOL. 
 
#45 Posted by Aiden Cross (14523 posts) - 2 years, 4 months ago - Show Bio

Just a note about Majestics feat of rearanging the solar system. It's not like he did it in a heartbeat, it took him months to do that from what i've read in the comic.

#46 Posted by Valtot (4502 posts) - 2 years, 4 months ago - Show Bio
@Static Shock:
no he states he only has a nano second left before the baby goes boom with energy, and yes theres alot of PIS feats with characters you could literally go over any good character and find one but all  those feats are valid on comic vine
#47 Posted by Static Shock (47330 posts) - 2 years, 4 months ago - Show Bio
@Valtot said:
" @Static Shock: no he states he only has a nano second left before the baby goes boom with energy
Right, and within that nanosecond, he was doing nothing but traveling at superhuman speed. Nothing compared to Majestic building a machine in nanoseconds. 
 
@Valtot said:
"and yes theres alot of PIS feats with characters you could literally go over any good character and find one but all  those feats are valid on comic vine "
Where was it stated that PIS feats were valid at all?
 
Besides, even if it was valid, Superman isn't going to use that level of speed in a fight. He never does.
#48 Posted by Static Shock (47330 posts) - 2 years, 4 months ago - Show Bio
@Aiden Cross said:
" Just a note about Majestics feat of rearanging the solar system. It's not like he did it in a heartbeat, it took him months to do that from what i've read in the comic. "
I don't recall anyone saying that he rearranged the solar system that fast, anyway. So, why does that matter?
#49 Posted by Aiden Cross (14523 posts) - 2 years, 4 months ago - Show Bio
@Static Shock said:
" @Aiden Cross said:
" Just a note about Majestics feat of rearanging the solar system. It's not like he did it in a heartbeat, it took him months to do that from what i've read in the comic. "
I don't recall anyone saying that he rearranged the solar system that fast, anyway. So, why does that matter? "
Because in previous battles involving Mr Majestic people do bring it up, I'm just saying it first now :p
#50 Posted by Static Shock (47330 posts) - 2 years, 4 months ago - Show Bio
@Aiden Cross: I see...
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