Superman vs. Luke Skywalker

Which version of both?

superman wins. He's too fast and he'll just flick him.

@moywar700 said:

superman wins. He's too fast and he'll just flick him.

no

@moywar700 said:

superman wins. He's too fast and he'll just flick him.

If this is Grand Master, nope.

@xmenhulk: Which version of which?

I'll assume this is post-New 52 and NJO Luke, in which case Luke would win, since morals are off.

OP never stated which version.

@xmenhulk which version of these characters? leaning tords superman, but which versions?

If the Op doesn't specify...we have to use the abomination that is post 52.

@moywar700 said:

OP never stated which version.

Then you use the current versions.

Grand Master Luke roflstomps Superman.

@xmenhulk said:

But these versions, Morals off Superman would go crazy and kill Luke

Superman

Superman in the first few seconds

Since xmenhulk never specified which versions, I gotta go with Superman.

@TERMINATORXX said:

Since xmenhulk never specified which versions, I gotta go with Superman.

Yes, he did:

@xmenhulk said:

@TheAcidSkull said:

superman stomps any version

No, he doesn't.

Post 52 loses to NJO Luke.

Here we go...

@Deranged Midget: What about it?

@TheAcidSkull said:

@ShootingNova said:

@TheAcidSkull said:

superman stomps any version

No, he doesn't.

Post 52 loses to NJO Luke.

why? superman is still faster ,stronger and has so much powers at his display

Uhh..... no.

Since this is morals off:

Luke can throw attacks and react at near-relativistic speeds.

He could put Superman to sleep.

He could telepathically overwhelm him.

If he achieves Oneness, he stomps.

He can telekinetically knock out Superman.

Depending on how powerful his heat vision is, Luke may be able to block or redirect with Deflection and/or Barrier, (which have defended against lava, volcanic heat, AT-AT chin lasers, turbolasers, several blaster bolts, and so on) or he could control the heat.

Though it would require effort, Luke can make himself invisible as well, with Force Immersion. He is then undetectable physically, technologically or through the Force.

Luke still has energy absorption and manipulation, weather manipulation, and so on.

Can we see some feats of NJO Luke?

@Tradog:

It doesn't have to be NJO. He has shown levels of power in multiple eras:

His telepathy is on par with someone who mind-wiped twenty billion effortlessly.

He has walked on lava and deflected it, and defended against AT-AT chin lasers, volcanic heat, blaster bolts and so on.

He has knocked over AT-AT's (the big ones you see in Ep 5) with a single push.

He has telekinetically moved Star Destroyers.

He has achieved Oneness, in which case he appears to be wielding twenty blades at near-relativistic speeds and been such an immovable object even the Black Hole at the centre of the galaxy could not move him.

He has rebuilt a fortress with the Force.

He has created an illusion over his face to disguise himself.

He has shut down his presence to be invisible to all, except his son, who he wanted to know was still alive.

He has piloted the Millennium Falcon with the Force.

He has overcome Force-blindness.

He has one-shotted Yuuzhan Vong with Electric Judgment.

He has used Mnemotherapy. to force out the spirit of a god-level being out of another.

He can throw attacks and react at near-relativistic speeds.

He has seen near-relativistic speed movement in slow-motion.

He has frozen every morsel, food scrap etc. in the air and then placed them back down on the floor.

He scared off one of the most powerful Sith Lords by creating a illusory fleet.

He has overcome brainwashing.

He has destroyed a bunch of hot-wired droids by waving his hand.

Plus many more on this scale.

What feats does Luke have to put him on same level as Superman?

@jwalser3: Read above. And I was talking about post-52.

@ShootingNova:Sorry posted form page one. And what is NJO?

@jwalser3: New Jedi Order.

@ShootingNova said:

@TERMINATORXX said:

Since xmenhulk never specified which versions, I gotta go with Superman.

Yes, he did:

@xmenhulk said:

Still going with Superman

What are Grand Master Luke's feats? 

@ShootingNova said:

@Deranged Midget: What about it?

@TheAcidSkull said:

@ShootingNova said:

@TheAcidSkull said:

superman stomps any version

No, he doesn't.

Post 52 loses to NJO Luke.

why? superman is still faster ,stronger and has so much powers at his display

Uhh..... no.

Since this is morals off:

Luke can throw attacks and react at near-relativistic speeds.

He could put Superman to sleep.

He could telepathically overwhelm him.

If he achieves Oneness, he stomps.

He can telekinetically knock out Superman.

Depending on how powerful his heat vision is, Luke may be able to block or redirect with Deflection and/or Barrier, (which have defended against lava, volcanic heat, AT-AT chin lasers, turbolasers, several blaster bolts, and so on) or he could control the heat.

Though it would require effort, Luke can make himself invisible as well, with Force Immersion. He is then undetectable physically, technologically or through the Force.

Luke still has energy absorption and manipulation, weather manipulation, and so on.

So can Superman

Don't know, never fought anyone this fast IIRC

He won't in this fight

Harder than you make it sound

True

Superman could hear his heartbeat (maybe)

Despite Luke having more powers, Superman has very powerful powers lol

Its close, haven't decided yet.

@ShootingNova: See now, I would have no problem saying Luke has more than a good chance at defeating New 52 Superman, but considering the picture provided was of Pre-52 Superman, it's a different story. I don't want to speak for Luke since I'm not an expert on him regarding his NJO feats.

I say luke assuming he can handle supermans speed. if he can, than luke should win without much trouble. His ability with the force should be enough to stop superman alone, but his lightsaber, which cant cut superman i dont think, can distract him while luke does some force ninja stuff.. but superman is no push over lol... luke gets my vote in a tough fight

@Deranged Midget said:

@ShootingNova: See now, I would have no problem saying Luke has more than a good chance at defeating New 52 Superman, but considering the picture provided was of Pre-52 Superman, it's a different story. I don't want to speak for Luke since I'm not an expert on him regarding his NJO feats.

Pre-52 now has a chance of winning, it could pretty much go either way, almost.

@The_Thunderer said:

@ShootingNova said:

@Deranged Midget: What about it?

@TheAcidSkull said:

@ShootingNova said:

@TheAcidSkull said:

superman stomps any version

No, he doesn't.

Post 52 loses to NJO Luke.

why? superman is still faster ,stronger and has so much powers at his display

Uhh..... no.

Since this is morals off:

Luke can throw attacks and react at near-relativistic speeds.

He could put Superman to sleep.

He could telepathically overwhelm him.

If he achieves Oneness, he stomps.

He can telekinetically knock out Superman.

Depending on how powerful his heat vision is, Luke may be able to block or redirect with Deflection and/or Barrier, (which have defended against lava, volcanic heat, AT-AT chin lasers, turbolasers, several blaster bolts, and so on) or he could control the heat.

Though it would require effort, Luke can make himself invisible as well, with Force Immersion. He is then undetectable physically, technologically or through the Force.

Luke still has energy absorption and manipulation, weather manipulation, and so on.

So can Superman

Don't know, never fought anyone this fast IIRC

He won't in this fight

Harder than you make it sound

True

Superman could hear his heartbeat (maybe)

Despite Luke having more powers, Superman has very powerful powers lol

So what? I was posting what Luke could do.

Yes, he has. He has fought Abeloth and can match speeds with Sidious as of NJO.

He can. It's morals off.

I never said it was easy. It rarely even occurs. But if he does, he will win.

No, he can't. What in the honky honks? He is invisible in sound and touch as well.

I know he does.

@The_Thunderer said:

Its close, haven't decided yet.

Pre-52 is probably capable of winning.

@Nefarious said:

What are Grand Master Luke's feats?

Just gave some before.

Luke takes over Superman's mind and makes him kill himself.

@jobiwankenobi: This is Pre-52. There's a chance he could win, but its remote.

@ShootingNova: With morals off wouldn't he just do what I just said? If you say I'm wrong, I wouldn't doubt it, that's just what I'd assume.

@jobiwankenobi: Of course its morals off. And he can, but pre-52 is pretty damn powerful.

@ShootingNova: So it'd be easier for him to kill himself? Sorry, if I'm being ignorant this is just how I see it.

@jobiwankenobi:It depends if Luke can get out his telepathy. He probably can. And he doesn't take over people's minds, but he kind of can use telepathic mind-wipes and so on,

@ShootingNova: I got what you're saying.

@jobiwankenobi: At least its not a definite stomp-ish win for Luke, since this isn't post-52.

@ShootingNova said:

@Deranged Midget: What about it?

@TheAcidSkull said:

@ShootingNova said:

@TheAcidSkull said:

superman stomps any version

No, he doesn't.

Post 52 loses to NJO Luke.

why? superman is still faster ,stronger and has so much powers at his display

Uhh..... no.

Since this is morals off:

Luke can throw attacks and react at near-relativistic speeds.

He could put Superman to sleep.

He could telepathically overwhelm him.

If he achieves Oneness, he stomps.

He can telekinetically knock out Superman.

Depending on how powerful his heat vision is, Luke may be able to block or redirect with Deflection and/or Barrier, (which have defended against lava, volcanic heat, AT-AT chin lasers, turbolasers, several blaster bolts, and so on) or he could control the heat.

Though it would require effort, Luke can make himself invisible as well, with Force Immersion. He is then undetectable physically, technologically or through the Force.

Luke still has energy absorption and manipulation, weather manipulation, and so on.

Superman can fly faster than light. Luke is nowhere near that fast.

Superman can fly faster than light. Luke is nowhere near that fast.

@Skaddix: Your response is:

@Silver2467 said:

@Skaddix said:

Superman can fly faster than light. Luke is nowhere near that fast.

Not really relevant considering Superman's processing speed is nowhere near that level, and neither are his reflexes. Luke, on the other hand, not only possesses precognition and clairvoyance, but he has processed information and operated his powers within nanoseconds. Unlike Superman, who can only travel that fast, Luke can actually mentally respond that fast. Morals off, Luke stomps. Superman has no answer for his TP.

@Silver2467: In case you didn't realize, this is Pre-52, not post. However, its NJO Luke. I do agree with your post. Not too much of a stomp, though.

@Silver2467: Okay.

did superman create a blackhole?? didn't think so

Has anybody considered Luke's Use of the force to "adapt" and become knowledgeable of his surroundings?

Can luke protect himself from a speedblitz?