it amuses me to no end how you can see a scan of superman getting hurt in a dream because someone made kryptonite and come back with this non sense. Freddy turned a kid into a video game in his dream..he turned some kid into paper and then used scissors to cut him up...he has made people eat themselves to death, etc etc...killing me with this stab cut crap...he can do whatever he wants to superman and there's nothing superman can do about it. The same way dr. destiny chained superman up with regular old chains in the dream world and supes couldn't break free...yeah. Freddy doesn't even need to do all of that because hur dur....it's in the op that freddy is using kryptonite as a weapon. And have you ever in your life seen a freddy movie? You couldnt have after saying OMG its just the fear non sense. Whatever happens in the dream world in nightmare on elms street happens in the real world. You get cut or burned in a dream you get cut or burned in the real world, you die in a dream you die in the real world...very simple.@lets_jam: freddy cant kill him in a dream,the only reason freddy kills people is because they are soft fleshy things,,example= freddy cuts you in a dream because humans can be cut,freddy cuts supes and nothing happens,,scratches his head and thinks hmmmmmm,i'll create some kyptonite buts its not really kyptonite,,just the fear of it,,,supes body is no fun to a person who kills by cutting you. freddy cant win.
superman vs freddy krueger in (superman's dream)
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Freddy turned a a kid into a video game in his dream..he has made people eat themselves to death, etc tc...killing me with this stab cut crap...he can do whatever he wants to superman and there's nothing superman can do about it. The same way dr. destiny chained superman up with regular old chains in the dream world and supes couldn't break free..
i agree with this, there's really nothing Superman can do inside the dream world to hurt freddy, even if he literally knocks freddy's head off it will grow right back, while vise versa, freddy is nearly omnipotent in the dream world
@Sega_Shaman said:Superman would be, at the very least, subconsciously afraid of Kryptonite due to psychological conditioning due to pain.
A good question here is: Are Freddy's powers considered magical, since they are demonic in nature. Superman is able to be effected by magic (vulnerable in the sense that he is effected by the same as an average joe).
seriously is every in this thread blind? did no one see the 3 scans of superman getting hurt and owned in a dream world?
has no one in this thread seen a nightmare on elms street movie? Whatever happens in the dream happens in the real world....what is this psychological pain stuff? Why would it matter is freddys powers were magcic based? Again...he was owned by doctor destiny...... same powers as freddy...in fact freddys powers are better.
the op says freddy is using krpytonite........
thats scan should = the end of this discussion. The 6 page crap is ridiculous..people are over thinking this wayyyyy too much
@Jezer said:@Sega_Shaman said:
Superman would be, at the very least, subconsciously afraid of Kryptonite due to psychological conditioning due to pain.
A good question here is: Are Freddy's powers considered magical, since they are demonic in nature. Superman is able to be effected by magic (vulnerable in the sense that he is effected by the same as an average joe).
....what is this psychological pain stuff?
the op says freddy is using krpytonite........ thats scan should = the end of this discussion. The 6 page crap is ridiculous..people are over thinking this wayyyyy too much
If you're confused about the point of my post(you are), it was that Superman while probably not having that many nightmares about Kryptonite is at least subconsciously afraid of it - which means that Freddy would pick up on it eventually, and use it against him. Yes, the OP says Freddy has kryptonite. No, I don't expect Freddy to fight Supermen with this random alien material thathe knows nothing about - and pull it out of his ass. Thus, I provided a genuine reason for how Freddy would think up the idea of using Kryptonite.
lol
@lets_jam:
Doctor Destiny is superior to Freddy
The Atom feels like somebody was in his head, stealing his mind. He also says that he can hardly stay awake and that he has dreams about a fascist Justice League ..
Somebody has been reaching into the Justice League’s mind and twisted their perception of reality and all around the world, people have been reciving superpowers.
Uses the inmates’s nightmares against Batman.
@Jezer: True, it is kind of a Pavlov's dog situation. Instead of a bell, it's kryptonite, and instead of expecting food, it's expecting pain. However, fear is different from a pain response as the Scarecrow pointed out once. We could also use the fact that Freddy has been hunting kids in Metropolis, and may have gathered information about Superman from them.
That's plausible too. I'll accept that. I don't know, I don't see much of a blur between fear and avoiding a painful stimulus. Only the degree of fear.
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@lets_jam: It would matter if the Sweatered Spook's magical in the event that he gets pulled into reality, which has happened before. As it is, if the fight stays in the dream world, the fight goes to Freddy. If the Dream Demon gets pulled into reality, Superman will have the advantage. I haven't really seen 3 scans, just the same one reposted, but I'm just trying to establish the two ways this fight can go.freddy got pulled into reality by people who knew to do so..specifically dream warriors...special souls. And when freddy died..he went right back into the dream world and that required in the real world waking them up. Well the same scan posted 3 times...= no one should be sitting here saying green k rock wont work on superman. There are no two ways this fight will go..only superman dies.
@Jezer: superman has already dreamed about kryptnoite with doctor destiny..which means freddy will know of its existence. And even if dr d didnt do the whole green rock thing..yes indeed freddy would have picked up on it. It's pretty much his thing. Yes freddy has green rock... the op specifically stated that freddy is using it as a weapon so..... Never mind the fact that usually freddy kills his victims in ways associated with there weaknesses or fears ie carlos hearing aid...that one sexy chicks addiction to drugs whos name i cant remember and that dork with the wheelchair. And to top it off freddy doesnt even have to use kryptnoite....he can do whatever he wants inside the dream world he can make superman turn into whatever he likes...
this vid says it all.
im sure superman would realize its a dream. when that happens freddy is in for a world of hurt. supes would be even stronger in a dream i believe for in a dream anything is possibly let alone a comic book. but a comic book dream thats over kill.
im sure superman would realize its a dream. when that happens freddy is in for a world of hurt. supes would be even stronger in a dream i believe for in a dream anything is possibly let alone a comic book. but a comic book dream thats over kill.and if he did realize its a dream? Did that help him when he fought doctor destiny? No. How about you read the 3rd post on this page and see what happens when superman knows hes in a dream. Superman dies.
@dboyrules2011:
prove it..kthanks
@lets_jam
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@chaos-soul
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and if he did realize its a dream? Did that help him when he fought doctor destiny? No. How about you read the 3rd post on this page and see what happens when superman knows hes in a dream. Superman dies.im sure superman would realize its a dream. when that happens freddy is in for a world of hurt. supes would be even stronger in a dream i believe for in a dream anything is possibly let alone a comic book. but a comic book dream thats over kill.
@dboyrules2011: prove it..kthanks
Can Freddy hurt him i seriously don't think so?
@chaos-soul said:DD and Freddy are two diff chars. you cant use DD feats with Freddy.im sure superman would realize its a dream. when that happens freddy is in for a world of hurt. supes would be even stronger in a dream i believe for in a dream anything is possibly let alone a comic book. but a comic book dream thats over kill.and if he did realize its a dream? Did that help him when he fought doctor destiny? No. How about you read the 3rd post on this page and see what happens when superman knows hes in a dream. Superman dies.
@dboyrules2011: prove it..kthanks
@lets_jam said:yes the freddy who can turn flesh and blood people into paper and video games, can do whatever he wants to someone who got owned by dream world kryptonite while fighting doctor destiny.Can freddy hurt him i seriously dont think so it@chaos-soul said:
im sure superman would realize its a dream. when that happens freddy is in for a world of hurt. supes would be even stronger in a dream i believe for in a dream anything is possibly let alone a comic book. but a comic book dream thats over kill.and if he did realize its a dream? Did that help him when he fought doctor destiny? No. How about you read the 3rd post on this page and see what happens when superman knows hes in a dream. Superman dies.
@dboyrules2011: prove it..kthanks
@lets_jam said:dd and freddy are 2 different characters with the exact same ability...oh no wait freddys is better because what he does in his dream can kill you in the real world.@chaos-soul said:DD and Freddy are two diff chars. you cant use DD feats with Freddy.im sure superman would realize its a dream. when that happens freddy is in for a world of hurt. supes would be even stronger in a dream i believe for in a dream anything is possibly let alone a comic book. but a comic book dream thats over kill.and if he did realize its a dream? Did that help him when he fought doctor destiny? No. How about you read the 3rd post on this page and see what happens when superman knows hes in a dream. Superman dies.
@dboyrules2011: prove it..kthanks
@lets_jam
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@chaos-soul said:@lets_jam said:dd and freddy are 2 different characters with the exact same ability...oh no wait freddys is better because what he does in his dream can kill you in the real world.@chaos-soul said:DD and Freddy are two diff chars. you cant use DD feats with Freddy.im sure superman would realize its a dream. when that happens freddy is in for a world of hurt. supes would be even stronger in a dream i believe for in a dream anything is possibly let alone a comic book. but a comic book dream thats over kill.and if he did realize its a dream? Did that help him when he fought doctor destiny? No. How about you read the 3rd post on this page and see what happens when superman knows hes in a dream. Superman dies.
@dboyrules2011: prove it..kthanks
Feats of Freddy?
@chaos-soul said:but freddy cant even hurt superman. dream walking is pretty much a mental attack and supes has stoped them before. I dont even kno why im debating this i hate superman.@lets_jam said:dd and freddy are 2 different characters with the exact same ability...oh no wait freddys is better because what he does in his dream can kill you in the real world.@chaos-soul said:DD and Freddy are two diff chars. you cant use DD feats with Freddy.im sure superman would realize its a dream. when that happens freddy is in for a world of hurt. supes would be even stronger in a dream i believe for in a dream anything is possibly let alone a comic book. but a comic book dream thats over kill.and if he did realize its a dream? Did that help him when he fought doctor destiny? No. How about you read the 3rd post on this page and see what happens when superman knows hes in a dream. Superman dies.
@dboyrules2011: prove it..kthanks
@lets_jam said:feats have freddy have been stated and shown on this page...and every single page in this thread....scroll up@chaos-soul said:Feats of Freddy@lets_jam said:dd and freddy are 2 different characters with the exact same ability...oh no wait freddys is better because what he does in his dream can kill you in the real world.@chaos-soul said:DD and Freddy are two diff chars. you cant use DD feats with Freddy.im sure superman would realize its a dream. when that happens freddy is in for a world of hurt. supes would be even stronger in a dream i believe for in a dream anything is possibly let alone a comic book. but a comic book dream thats over kill.and if he did realize its a dream? Did that help him when he fought doctor destiny? No. How about you read the 3rd post on this page and see what happens when superman knows hes in a dream. Superman dies.
@dboyrules2011: prove it..kthanks
@dboyrules2011 said:none of thoes are any ware near good enough to give supes a paper cut@lets_jam said:feats have freddy have been stated and shown on this page...and every single page in this thread....scroll up@chaos-soul said:Feats of Freddy@lets_jam said:dd and freddy are 2 different characters with the exact same ability...oh no wait freddys is better because what he does in his dream can kill you in the real world.@chaos-soul said:DD and Freddy are two diff chars. you cant use DD feats with Freddy.im sure superman would realize its a dream. when that happens freddy is in for a world of hurt. supes would be even stronger in a dream i believe for in a dream anything is possibly let alone a comic book. but a comic book dream thats over kill.and if he did realize its a dream? Did that help him when he fought doctor destiny? No. How about you read the 3rd post on this page and see what happens when superman knows hes in a dream. Superman dies.
@dboyrules2011: prove it..kthanks
@chaos-soul:in those feats freddy is dealing with reg humans no super powers. and super powers on supermans level i believe would be to much for freddyAnd they potentially can't be?none of thoes are any ware near good enough to give supes a paper cut
Why can't they? There are no superman level guys in the Freddy movies so because of that they will not work on Superman? Freddy who knows Superman's weakness, and can access Superman's weakness and is in Freddy's territory can't harm him?in those feats freddy is dealing with reg humans no super powers. and super powers on supermans level i believe would be to much for freddy
@god_spawn said:i didnt realize regular humans had the ability to control souls, control souls, use magic, and pull people in and out of dreams Superman has already been owned in the dream world by dream manipulators....come up with something other than superman mighty..superman number 1@chaos-soul:in those feats freddy is dealing with reg humans no super powers. and super powers on supermans level i believe would be to much for freddyAnd they potentially can't be?none of thoes are any ware near good enough to give supes a paper cut
neither can be answered to my knowledge. i call it a stale mate simply becuz im done with you
dream warriors are special souls with the ability to control their dreams and fear...you know what happened to them...freddy killed them all. I'm not going to repeat myself with this superman has been owned by dream manipulators stuff again...i made that perfectly clear. Every time superman has went up against dream manipulation he was beaten..there was no..take control...there was superman got owned hard. the scan has been posted...Get over this superman = best there is crap and be reasonable. There is no stalemate superman loses.@lets_jam: well lets put it this way freddy always has had the upper hand becuz his victims have been afraid of him. and couldnt conroll their dreams. would superman be afraid and how long would it take for supes to take controll if he would be afraid. neither can be answered to my knowledge. i call it a stale mate simply becuz im done with you
@Sega_Shaman:
wouldnt their be a difference in haveing powers in and out of dreams? superman is almost indestructible why would that change in a dream. thoes guy may have got powers in their dreams but thats not the same as having them in reality
@god_spawn:
that is a reasonable argument and i dont have anything to rebut that.
@god_spawn:Not particularly, when what you're fighting exists only in dreams.Supes being almost indestructable could be changed easily in a dream, especially by the one controlling the dream. While they didn't have powers in reality, the fight was never in reality. The dreamworld was the only place that powers would matter, and they were the only ones who had a chance of fighting Freddy. Not meaning they had much of a chance of winning, but still.
@Sega_Shaman: wouldn't there be a difference in having powers in and out of dreams? superman is almost indestructible why would that change in a dream. those guys may have got powers in their dreams but that's not the same as having them in reality
@lets_jam
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@dboyrules2011
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@lets_jam said:yes the freddy who can turn flesh and blood people into paper and video games, can do whatever he wants to someone who got owned by dream world kryptonite while fighting doctor destiny.Can freddy hurt him i seriously dont think so it@chaos-soul said:
im sure superman would realize its a dream. when that happens freddy is in for a world of hurt. supes would be even stronger in a dream i believe for in a dream anything is possibly let alone a comic book. but a comic book dream thats over kill.and if he did realize its a dream? Did that help him when he fought doctor destiny? No. How about you read the 3rd post on this page and see what happens when superman knows hes in a dream. Superman dies.
@dboyrules2011: prove it..kthanks
Go sit down rookie if Freddy so strong why do he lose to regular humans?
@lets_jam said:go sit down rookie? Did you really just type that? I mean...really?Go sit down rookie if freddy so strong why do he lose to regular humans@dboyrules2011 said:
@lets_jam said:yes the freddy who can turn flesh and blood people into paper and video games, can do whatever he wants to someone who got owned by dream world kryptonite while fighting doctor destiny.Can freddy hurt him i seriously dont think so it@chaos-soul said:
im sure superman would realize its a dream. when that happens freddy is in for a world of hurt. supes would be even stronger in a dream i believe for in a dream anything is possibly let alone a comic book. but a comic book dream thats over kill.and if he did realize its a dream? Did that help him when he fought doctor destiny? No. How about you read the 3rd post on this page and see what happens when superman knows hes in a dream. Superman dies.
@dboyrules2011: prove it..kthanks
It's been stated on nearly every page of this thread that the people who have managed to beat freddy are in fact not regular humans. They have special powers that allow them to fight freddy....except uhhh they all died horribly anyway. Besides the fact that they had special powers that allowed them to manipulate souls and or dreams like freddy did superman does not. Now go sit down rookie.
@dboyrules2011 said:STFU dude he cant even hurt him dude im out@lets_jam said:go sit down rookie? Did you really just type that? I mean...really? It's been stated on nearly every page of this thread that the people who have managed to beat freddy are in fact not regular humans. They have special powers that allow them to fight freddy....except uhhh they all died horribly anyway. Besides the fact that they had special powers that allowed them to manipulate souls and or dreams like freddy did superman does not. Now go sit down rookie.Go sit down rookie if freddy so strong why do he lose to regular humans@dboyrules2011 said:
@lets_jam said:yes the freddy who can turn flesh and blood people into paper and video games, can do whatever he wants to someone who got owned by dream world kryptonite while fighting doctor destiny.Can freddy hurt him i seriously dont think so it@chaos-soul said:
im sure superman would realize its a dream. when that happens freddy is in for a world of hurt. supes would be even stronger in a dream i believe for in a dream anything is possibly let alone a comic book. but a comic book dream thats over kill.and if he did realize its a dream? Did that help him when he fought doctor destiny? No. How about you read the 3rd post on this page and see what happens when superman knows hes in a dream. Superman dies.
@dboyrules2011: prove it..kthanks
superman cant be killed in a dream by freddy.....end of.You do realize that freddys power is that if you die in the dream world you die in the real world the way you died in the dream right? The fact that you were already told this makes your end of statement even more laughable. The fact that a scans of superman being hurt and nearly dying in a dream when he fought doctor destiny have been posted on every page of this thread is just......just shhh freddy wins.
@lets_jam
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@dboyrules2011: except he can and please stay out
You don't tell me what to do rookie go sit down and get a real icon dude then we can talk next i'm flagging you.
@the darknessss said:You do realize that freddys power is that if you die in the dream world you die in the real world the way you died in the dream right? The fact that you were already told this makes your end of statement even more laughable. The fact that a scans of superman being hurt and nearly dying in a dream when he fought doctor destiny have been posted on every page of this thread is just......just shhh freddy wins.
superman cant be killed in a dream by freddy.....end of.
Superman,superbrain,superclever,superhard to kill. haha freddy cant kill him anywhere,dream or no dream,ONLY play on his fears,,,,but in time his intellect will work out its all a dream,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,your not getting the point in all this,people die easy,superman doesnt die easy at all in a dream or not,freddys only weapon that can hurt him not kill him is fear itself,,,,,and after a while superman will work out its a dream and just laugh at your hero.
If you die in your dreams you die in real life, Superman is susceptible to mental attacks. Which is what Freddie's is, he wouldn't wake up unless Freddie wanted him to. because of his physical makeup it would be damn near impossible for someone outside of superman to wake him up with drugs. You saw how Jason got owned in the dream world and the kids had to wake him up, he was dying. And jason is already dead.
I don't know how this would work even if Freddy Krueger Killed him in the dream how would that work out in real life?One of three ways.
1) Superman wakes up as his dream self dies.
2) Superman's body becomes comatose or
3) The brain shuts down due to believing that he is actually dead thereby killing him.
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