Superman vs Colossus( Juggernaut)

Fight is in Metropolis. Current versions of each. juggernaut colossus. start from 30 yards away. morals on

Supes easy.

I was waiting for this . Supes Beats him to a pulp. Back to Regular colossus lol

The only way Superman can win is BFR if Superman foolish enough to trade punches with Colossonaut it will be The 2nd Death of Superman.

LOL....2nd death may be possible. I think Supes would also win via BFR.

@god_spawn said:

Supes easy.

Colossonaut is not up to snuff with the classic Juggernaut, IMO, especially not after seeing him feeling so much pain at the hands of Kuurth. Superman should handily take this.

CitizenBane: ir That was probably a low power showing of juggernaut, there is enough power of cyttorak to let cain crush superman easy, Colossusnaut on the other hand has minimal feats than i knw of, so given that ... Superman wins ONLY VIA BFR...................

Battlefield removal.... CitizenBane: ir has juggernaut ever been beaten unconcious?....

CitizenBane: ir That was probably a low power showing of juggernaut, there is enough power of cyttorak to let cain crush superman easy, Colossusnaut on the other hand has minimal feats than i knw of, so given that ... Superman wins ONLY VIA BFR...................

Still cannot get over this colossus is the juggernaunt,(such a bad idea) superman for the win

What feats does new superman have that prove he can knockout Colossus? We don't even know what it takes to knock current Colossus out. ( has he been ko'd yet?) Sure he got injured by magical powered Kuurth but he healed instantly. Classic Jugs has been injured by magical swords, etc.. before too. Magic seems to undo certain enchantments of any juggernaut. The one thing that Colossus does not have is the force field, which Cain himself rarely displayed.

Superman wins via bfr.

Supes FTW!

@Void_Paladin said:

1. Colossus lacks the speed to tag Superman with any attack.

2. I think enough strength to shatter a Lantern construct should be enough to damage this "Juggernaut" that's far from immune to physical force.

3. The OP doesn't say no BFR but even without it...

The answer...is still Superman.

Yes this sounds correct

@termiteone4ever said:

I was waiting for this . Supes Beats him to a pulp. Back to Regular colossus lol

colossus as juggernaut is inmune to any form of physical damage.@GhostRider29 said:

Current Colossus doesn't have enough feats to prove that he can handle someone in Sups level. Especially not sups himself. Superman wins.

how about he has all the powers of the classic juggernaut. he defeated kuurth also.

@Deranged Midget said:

@CitizenBane: Superman still lacks any good feats to prove how strong he is compared to his pre-flashpoint incarnation. But from what we've seen, he's still stronger, LEAGUES faster and more durable than Colossus.

I agree that he can beat Colossus, but I'm doubting that he will be able to knock him out easily.

stronger and durable than colossus powered by cyttorak? how do you proof this? superman is faster and would win via bfr, but how do you know he is durable than colossus?

@Deranged Midget said:

@blackadam2 said:

@Deranged Midget said:

@CitizenBane: Superman still lacks any good feats to prove how strong he is compared to his pre-flashpoint incarnation. But from what we've seen, he's still stronger, LEAGUES faster and more durable than Colossus.

I agree that he can beat Colossus, but I'm doubting that he will be able to knock him out easily.

stronger and durable than colossus powered by cyttorak? how do you proof this? superman is faster and would win via bfr, but how do you know he is durable than colossus?

He easily tanked through anything Green Lantern threw at him and shrugged off Supergirl's full out attacks that sent him flying.

Colossus has proven nothing to show him anywhere close to being as durable as Cain Marko.

and because of that you automtically assume he is stronger and durable? why would there be any difference between marko and colossus? they are both being powered by the same being and nothing indicates colossus is recieving less power from cyttorak. how do you know this? are you just assuming? in seeing how he used his power agains kuurth i would say there is no such difference. he was unstoppable and his durability was enough to stand the hits of an - according to his pov- stronger and more powerfull opponent. the only power he have not use is the force field, but there is no indication he can not do it. i don´t see the reason to assume he has half the power cain had, there is no way to prove it.

@Deranged Midget said:

@blackadam2 said:

@Deranged Midget said:

@blackadam2 said:

@Deranged Midget said:

@CitizenBane: Superman still lacks any good feats to prove how strong he is compared to his pre-flashpoint incarnation. But from what we've seen, he's still stronger, LEAGUES faster and more durable than Colossus.

I agree that he can beat Colossus, but I'm doubting that he will be able to knock him out easily.

stronger and durable than colossus powered by cyttorak? how do you proof this? superman is faster and would win via bfr, but how do you know he is durable than colossus?

He easily tanked through anything Green Lantern threw at him and shrugged off Supergirl's full out attacks that sent him flying.

Colossus has proven nothing to show him anywhere close to being as durable as Cain Marko.

and because of that you automtically assume he is stronger and durable? why would there be any difference between marko and colossus? they are both being powered by the same being and nothing indicates colossus is recieving less power from cyttorak. how do you know this? are you just assuming? in seeing how he used his power agains kuurth i would say there is no such difference. he was unstoppable and his durability was enough to stand the hits of an - according to his pov- stronger and more powerfull opponent. the only power he have not use is the force field, but there is no indication he can not do it. i don´t see the reason to assume he has half the power cain had, there is no way to prove it.

No I am not assuming. Colossus was barely holding his own against Kuurth. Currently he's lost to people much weaker than Cain Marko or who he should be able to handle. Even so, he's far less experienced with the power gem of Cyttorak. Even with the lack of feats from Superman and the majority of the new 52, Justice League Superman was set 5 years in the past, which clearly shows he could've grown much more powerful over the years. There might not be a giant gap between them currently, but it's not as if Colossus would be able to touch him regardless.

was barely? colossus beat him. beat and stronger and more powerfull opponent, according to his words. who has beaten colossus recently, pray? you are talking about the sinister army? how got mind controlled? or how did he got hit by cannonball when he was just standing, i barely call a lost. don´t know where are you getting all this. he smashed celestial armour with ease. you said colossus has no experience with cyttorak´s powers, yet the using of his unstoppable motion was the key to his victory agains kuurth. he did use his powers wisely. he did use it again when he took down the phalanx of one. so there is no reason to believe he doesn´t how to use cyttorak´s powers. my point never was that he could beat superman, but i don´t see superman beating colossus outside of bfr.nor do i believe superman is stronger or more durable than colossus. there no reason to believe colossus has small percentage of the power, nor does cyttorak says anything about that. his powers were enough to defeat a guy on par if not above of thor. we saw the worthy were incredibly powerfull. superman win this by bfr, if he decides- for some reason- to slufest, the fight would take forever.

@Deranged Midget said:

@blackadam2: As I said, New 52 is basically featless, but if the writers take any indication to Superman's pre-flashpoint strength or possibly make him stronger, he would be LEAGUES above Colossus in strength and durability. From what limited feats we've seen in various 52 comics, Superman is not exactly at his pre-52 levels but close enough considering Green Lantern's continuity has remained (for the most part) the same, and Superman easily tanked through Hal. Regardless, Colossus isn't touching Superman in any universe, he's a walking brick.

again, i didn´t colossus could tap superman, you are just assuming that. plus, superman has been tag by far slower people than him. second, the juggernaut fully powered by cyttorak has always been on par with superman in strength, in my opinion. durability is another thing, while i think they are on par also, the jugegrnaut has no weakness and he physical damage does nothing to him. but considering he has a force field which give him extar durability to the point that nothing can touch him, i would consider him in this aspect above superman. as i say before, there is no indication that colossus is not being fully powered by cyttorak, on the contrary, we have seen almost all the powers except the force field. cyttorak powered colossus should be on par with classic cain marko, until there is evidence enough to proof the contrary.

@Deranged Midget said:

@blackadam2 said:

@Deranged Midget said:

@blackadam2: As I said, New 52 is basically featless, but if the writers take any indication to Superman's pre-flashpoint strength or possibly make him stronger, he would be LEAGUES above Colossus in strength and durability. From what limited feats we've seen in various 52 comics, Superman is not exactly at his pre-52 levels but close enough considering Green Lantern's continuity has remained (for the most part) the same, and Superman easily tanked through Hal. Regardless, Colossus isn't touching Superman in any universe, he's a walking brick.

again, i didn´t colossus could tap superman, you are just assuming that. plus, superman has been tag by far slower people than him. second, the juggernaut fully powered by cyttorak has always been on par with superman in strength, in my opinion. durability is another thing, while i think they are on par also, the jugegrnaut has no weakness and he physical damage does nothing to him. but considering he has a force field which give him extar durability to the point that nothing can touch him, i would consider him in this aspect above superman. as i say before, there is no indication that colossus is not being fully powered by cyttorak, on the contrary, we have seen almost all the powers except the force field. cyttorak powered colossus should be on par with classic cain marko, until there is evidence enough to proof the contrary.

Ok, I agree with most of what you stated about the bearer of the gem gaining incalculable durability levels. But the only time Juggernaut would be anywhere close to being on par with Superman's strength is like you said, at the gem's fullest potential, which is basically trion Juggernaut. Classic Juggernaut is leagues below the majority of Superman incarnations and Colossus currently is roughly around Classic Jugg's level.

I'll agree to disagree.

trion juggernaut is way above superman. classic juggernaut would be almost if not on par with superman. i have not seen a limit to clasic juggernaut strength, nor did he had any trouble lifting of fighting with anyone. he pretty much toyed with thor in their first encounter and made him look like a fool, was beating ww hulk, conquered an alien planet, made holes in the tectonics place without effort(this is probably because of his unstoppable motion). the only thing he had problems lifting was mjolnir and we all know is not because the hammer is heavy. yes, juggernaut hasn´t destroyed a planet or has not move a planet, but that doens´t mean he lacks the power to do so. he has a constant fountain of energy feeding him. oh, and by full powered i meant classic levels. i used this word since we have seen the juggenaut get depowered a lot as of lately, so assume fully powered to his classic levels.

@Deranged Midget said:

@blackadam2 said:

@Deranged Midget said:

@blackadam2 said:

@Deranged Midget said:

@blackadam2: As I said, New 52 is basically featless, but if the writers take any indication to Superman's pre-flashpoint strength or possibly make him stronger, he would be LEAGUES above Colossus in strength and durability. From what limited feats we've seen in various 52 comics, Superman is not exactly at his pre-52 levels but close enough considering Green Lantern's continuity has remained (for the most part) the same, and Superman easily tanked through Hal. Regardless, Colossus isn't touching Superman in any universe, he's a walking brick.

again, i didn´t colossus could tap superman, you are just assuming that. plus, superman has been tag by far slower people than him. second, the juggernaut fully powered by cyttorak has always been on par with superman in strength, in my opinion. durability is another thing, while i think they are on par also, the jugegrnaut has no weakness and he physical damage does nothing to him. but considering he has a force field which give him extar durability to the point that nothing can touch him, i would consider him in this aspect above superman. as i say before, there is no indication that colossus is not being fully powered by cyttorak, on the contrary, we have seen almost all the powers except the force field. cyttorak powered colossus should be on par with classic cain marko, until there is evidence enough to proof the contrary.

Ok, I agree with most of what you stated about the bearer of the gem gaining incalculable durability levels. But the only time Juggernaut would be anywhere close to being on par with Superman's strength is like you said, at the gem's fullest potential, which is basically trion Juggernaut. Classic Juggernaut is leagues below the majority of Superman incarnations and Colossus currently is roughly around Classic Jugg's level.

I'll agree to disagree.

trion juggernaut is way above superman. classic juggernaut would be almost if not on par with superman. i have not seen a limit to clasic juggernaut strength, nor did he had any trouble lifting of fighting with anyone. he pretty much toyed with thor in their first encounter and made him look like a fool, was beating ww hulk, conquered an alien planet, made holes in the tectonics place without effort(this is probably because of his unstoppable motion). the only thing he had problems lifting was mjolnir and we all know is not because the hammer is heavy. yes, juggernaut hasn´t destroyed a planet or has not move a planet, but that doens´t mean he lacks the power to do so. he has a constant fountain of energy feeding him. oh, and by full powered i meant classic levels. i used this word since we have seen the juggenaut get depowered a lot as of lately, so assume fully powered to his classic levels.

I would classify fully powered in terms to Trion Juggernaut since that was basically the full potential of the gem. Juggernaut hasn't done anything to prove to me that he's anywhere on par with Superman in strength. The reason why he toyed with Thor was mostly due to his underestimation of Juggernaut and his inability to penetrate his shield. More or less, he's easily stronger than Hulk unless severely enraged, i.e World Breaker. Most cases, he seems stronger simply due to his force field protecting him from the heaviest of hits.

yet thor beat him because of his speed, not because he was stronger. i do not believe world breaker hulk to be stronger than the juggenaut. yet we see him use a little of his force field. in fact the only time i have seen use his force field in a fight was the first time agains thor. i am sure there are other instances agains some heavy hitters.

there is no evidence to suggest he is far lower stronger than superman. the fact that he can go toe to toe with thor, and was beating wwhulk( in this fight he didn´t use the force field) suggest something of his strength. the problem with the juggernaut is the lack of bench press feats. but honestly, i think he doesn´t need those. he has fought marvel´s heavy hitters without any problem. i don´t know why people think him a weak in the strength departament. to add to the feats, an avatar of cyttorak just defeated a worthy. the worthy were easily above some of the heavy hitters in marvel, as seeing how easily possessed thing defeated the red hulk. i stand to what i say, there should not be vastly difference between superman and classic juggernaut in the strength deparment. by the way, i know colossus have not used the force field, but if he would use against superman at the begining of the fight, he would have chance to beat him. of course, this won´t happen.

@Deranged Midget said:

@blackadam2: Never said he was "weak" in the strength department". He's definitely up there with Hulk, Thor and Hercules but Superman's strength feats outweigh Juggernauts. Colossus might have the ability to use the force field, but I agree, he won't have time to react or touch Superman.

i didn´t you were saying that. but people do believe him as weak. i think of those you mention the juggernaut is the stronger, having a powersource that feeds him energy to his needs. i do agree that superman has more strength feats, not necesarily mean he is way stronger than the juggernaut, in my opinion they should be almost on par.

i guess the character should battle biggers threats or something to show his strength. the only strength feats he has is battling again other heavy hitters, and so far he has done well.not so much of a lifter. if colossus do use the force field it would be a stalemate.

@luther22 said:

Colossus rams into Superman at full speed Superman easily doges it, as Superman is jumping over Colossus he blast him with heat in the back. Then Superman picks up Colossus carries him into outer space and leaves him in a orbit around the sun.

RESULT: Superman wins.

Or while Superman is carrying Colossus, Colossus grabs him and pummels him all the way back down to earth.