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#1 Posted by Iron Doom (864 posts) - - Show Bio

Random encounter who wins?

#2 Posted by King Saturn (222855 posts) - - Show Bio

The Winner - Martian Manhunter

Runner Up - Captain Marvel aka Billy Baston

The Big Loser - Superman

The Greatest Loser - Gladiator
#3 Posted by ClarkJosephKent1938DC (682 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman Wins.

#4 Edited by geraldthesloth (33313 posts) - - Show Bio

Billy, MM, Superman,Gladiator

in that order

#5 Posted by King Saturn (222855 posts) - - Show Bio
ClarkJosephKent1938 said:
"Superman Wins."
No Sir. Captain Marvel or Martian Manhunter would pancake him in a fight
#6 Posted by The Man of Tomorrow (403 posts) - - Show Bio

Not true. The advantage that Superman has on CM and MM is his durability and stamina. Unless everyone is gaining up on him, Superman is going to out last and out maneuver everyone here.

#7 Posted by Wisppeons (3726 posts) - - Show Bio

gLADIATOR

#8 Posted by the human Juggernaut (7224 posts) - - Show Bio
The Man of Tomorrow said:
"Not true. The advantage that Superman has on CM and MM is his durability and stamina. Unless everyone is gaining up on him, Superman is going to out last and out maneuver everyone here."
superman has more stamina than the guy with the stamina of atlas?
#9 Posted by The Man of Tomorrow (403 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman never tires because of his constant energy from the sun. I really think that Cap mar is the only one who can go toe to toe with supes and seem to have the advantage because of his magic based powers. Supes makes eveyone think they won, then it's over. But I'm biased.

#10 Posted by the human Juggernaut (7224 posts) - - Show Bio
The Man of Tomorrow said:
"Superman never tires because of his constant energy from the sun. I really think that Cap mar is the only one who can go toe to toe with supes and seem to have the advantage because of his magic based powers. Supes makes eveyone think they won, then it's over. But I'm biased."
superman does tire. 
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#11 Posted by The Man of Tomorrow (403 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm sorry, I shouldn't have said he never tires. Superman rarely tires as opposed to his super hero counter parts. And to be fair, this scan is from his hardest match up to this point. I mean, he did die in this arc.

#12 Posted by the human Juggernaut (7224 posts) - - Show Bio
The Man of Tomorrow said:
"I'm sorry, I shouldn't have said he never tires. Superman rarely tires as opposed to his super hero counter parts. And to be fair, this scan is from his hardest match up to this point. I mean, he did die in this arc."
he might have died, but he was exhausted from about page 3.
#13 Posted by Supreme Marvel (11264 posts) - - Show Bio
the human Juggernaut said:
"The Man of Tomorrow said:
"I'm sorry, I shouldn't have said he never tires. Superman rarely tires as opposed to his super hero counter parts. And to be fair, this scan is from his hardest match up to this point. I mean, he did die in this arc."
he might have died, but he was exhausted from about page 3."
LMAO

I think this will be down to Captain Marvel or Superman, myself. I will go into more detail when I come home from College later.
#14 Posted by Buckshot (18871 posts) - - Show Bio

I like Martian Manhunter.

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#15 Posted by Precise (22883 posts) - - Show Bio
King Saturn said:
"
The Winner - Martian Manhunter

Runner Up - Captain Marvel aka Billy Baston

The Big Loser - Superman

The Greatest Loser - Gladiator
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Yep, i agree!
#16 Posted by kaino12 (3151 posts) - - Show Bio

well gladiator is basicly superman so u have a superman vs a superman. and then martion manhunter who is known for being able to ko supes. now the question is captin marvel can he beat martion manhunter and gladiatior?

#17 Posted by Supreme Marvel (11264 posts) - - Show Bio
Buckshot said:
"I like Martian Manhunter."
I like him too.

But Superman has more speed that MM, and has his weakness ready to fire from his eyes, literally.
This is what I see happening to MM...
Heat Vision










There's MM out.
I'm also pretty sure, Gladiator is the first one out of this battle.
So it comes down to Superman and Captain Marvel.
Superman gives his verdict on the battle against Captain Marvel.




#18 Edited by Archetype (731 posts) - - Show Bio

Manhunter wins at least in my book.

via intangible mind rape (I assume he can do this if he wanted to)...what's that Gladiator feeling a little doubt?...Superman listen to the screams of those you couldn't save...

The only person he may not be able to affect would be Captain Marvel who I assume is either Freddy or Billy at his former power levels but if it is Billy at his current power levels then the match goes to him.If Manhunter can't gain an edge on Marvel mentally then he won't win.

#19 Posted by Supreme Marvel (11264 posts) - - Show Bio
Archetype said:
"Manhunter wins at least in my book.

via intangible mind rape (I assume he can do this if he wanted to)...what's that Gladiator feeling a little doubt?...Superman listen to the screams of those you couldn't save...

The only person he may not be able to affect would be Captain Marvel who I assume is either Freddy or Billy at his former power levels but if it is Billy at his current power levels then the match goes to him.If Manhunter can't gain an edge on Marvel mentally then he won't win."

Billy at the current level is Lord Marvel.
#20 Posted by the human Juggernaut (7224 posts) - - Show Bio
Archetype said:
"Manhunter wins at least in my book.

via intangible mind rape (I assume he can do this if he wanted to)...what's that Gladiator feeling a little doubt?...Superman listen to the screams of those you couldn't save...

The only person he may not be able to affect would be Captain Marvel who I assume is either Freddy or Billy at his former power levels but if it is Billy at his current power levels then the match goes to him.If Manhunter can't gain an edge on Marvel mentally then he won't win."
...it's billy.  Freddy has NEVER been called captain marvel.  Also, Billy has NEVER been called Shazam. 
#21 Posted by the human Juggernaut (7224 posts) - - Show Bio
Supreme Marvel said:
"Buckshot said:
"I like Martian Manhunter."
I like him too.

But Superman has more speed that MM, and has his weakness ready to fire from his eyes, literally.
This is what I see happening to MM...
Heat Vision










There's MM out.
I'm also pretty sure, Gladiator is the first one out of this battle.
So it comes down to Superman and Captain Marvel.
Superman gives his verdict on the battle against Captain Marvel.




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the heatvision woudn't work if MM turned intangible.
#22 Posted by Archetype (731 posts) - - Show Bio
the human Juggernaut said:
"Archetype said:
"Manhunter wins at least in my book.

via intangible mind rape (I assume he can do this if he wanted to)...what's that Gladiator feeling a little doubt?...Superman listen to the screams of those you couldn't save...

The only person he may not be able to affect would be Captain Marvel who I assume is either Freddy or Billy at his former power levels but if it is Billy at his current power levels then the match goes to him.If Manhunter can't gain an edge on Marvel mentally then he won't win."
...it's billy.  Freddy has NEVER been called captain marvel.  Also, Billy has NEVER been called Shazam. "
All of what you said is contradicted under their aliases.Is it Billy as he is currently with his enhanced powers wearing the white and all or is it Billy before the death of the wizard Shazam?
#23 Posted by Supreme Marvel (11264 posts) - - Show Bio
the human Juggernaut said:
"Supreme Marvel said:
"Buckshot said:
"I like Martian Manhunter."
I like him too.

But Superman has more speed that MM, and has his weakness ready to fire from his eyes, literally.
This is what I see happening to MM...
Heat Vision










There's MM out.
I'm also pretty sure, Gladiator is the first one out of this battle.
So it comes down to Superman and Captain Marvel.
Superman gives his verdict on the battle against Captain Marvel.




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the heatvision woudn't work if MM turned intangible."

As I said with speed, i think Superman could hit him before he could go intangible.

Are molecules still there if you're intangible?
#24 Posted by the human Juggernaut (7224 posts) - - Show Bio
Supreme Marvel said:
"the human Juggernaut said:
"Supreme Marvel said:
"Buckshot said:
"I like Martian Manhunter."
I like him too.

But Superman has more speed that MM, and has his weakness ready to fire from his eyes, literally.
This is what I see happening to MM...
Heat Vision










There's MM out.
I'm also pretty sure, Gladiator is the first one out of this battle.
So it comes down to Superman and Captain Marvel.
Superman gives his verdict on the battle against Captain Marvel.




"
the heatvision woudn't work if MM turned intangible."

As I said with speed, i think Superman could hit him before he could go intangible.

Are molecules still there if you're intangible?"
SBP used his heatvision on MM.  MM just turned intangible and they went right through him, doing nothing.
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#25 Posted by Buckshot (18871 posts) - - Show Bio
Supreme Marvel said:
"Buckshot said:
"I like Martian Manhunter."
I like him too.

But Superman has more speed that MM, and has his weakness ready to fire from his eyes, literally.
This is what I see happening to MM...
Heat Vision








It's already been posted, but MM can just become intangible and avoid the heat vision as well as all the other physical attacks. And since everyone he's fighting uses physical attacks, no one will be able to hurt him if he doesn't allow them too. Then he can use his mind to take them out. He could also go at it physically if he wanted to, using his shape shifting and mass manipulation to make himself even stronger than any of the others.
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#26 Posted by the human Juggernaut (7224 posts) - - Show Bio
Buckshot said:
"Supreme Marvel said:
"Buckshot said:
"I like Martian Manhunter."
I like him too.

But Superman has more speed that MM, and has his weakness ready to fire from his eyes, literally.
This is what I see happening to MM...
Heat Vision








It's already been posted, but MM can just become intangible and avoid the heat vision as well as all the other physical attacks. And since everyone he's fighting uses physical attacks, no one will be able to hurt him if he doesn't allow them too. Then he can use his mind to take them out. He could also go at it physically if he wanted to, using his shape shifting and mass manipulation to make himself even stronger than any of the others."
he won't be able to take out Marvel with mental attacks.  Also, does MM's intangibility stop him from getting hurt by magic?
#27 Posted by Supreme Marvel (11264 posts) - - Show Bio

But Superman knows Martian Manhunter, Prime doesn't.
Superman has more control over his powers than Prime does.

What I meant with the molecules things, is that Superman can use his Heat Vision at the molecule level, so if there is a trace of MM he can hit him. Because you see him, light must be hitting something, and if it's hitting something on MM, Superman can use his Heat Vision on him. Or just freeze him and send him into the sun.

#28 Posted by the human Juggernaut (7224 posts) - - Show Bio
Supreme Marvel said:
"But Superman knows Martian Manhunter, Prime doesn't.
Superman has more control over his powers than Prime does.

What I meant with the molecules things, is that Superman can use his Heat Vision at the molecule level, so if there is a trace of MM he can hit him. Because you see him, light must be hitting something, and if it's hitting something on MM, Superman can use his Heat Vision on him. Or just freeze him and send him into the sun."
1. SBP does know MM well, he's been watching him (and all other heroes) since the end of the COIE.
2. It doesn't matter how in control superman is, when he is intangible, the heat vision simply won't work.
3. Can't freeze him either when he's intangible.
#29 Posted by The Man of Tomorrow (403 posts) - - Show Bio

I think we can all agree that Gladiator is going to come up short in this battle. To be completely honest, out of the three remaining fighters, any one of them could take this W. Superman has stated before that MM is stronger than the rest of the JLA combined and he has also said he has the disadvantage against cap mar head to head, but there has never been a definitive winner. And superman has shown how easily he can exploit a fire weakness with the white martians in new world order and supes has also shown to keep up with CM even with his magic weaknesses.  I pick superman because when everything else boils down, he's superman and he finds a way to win.

#30 Posted by the human Juggernaut (7224 posts) - - Show Bio
The Man of Tomorrow said:
"I think we can all agree that Gladiator is going to come up short in this battle. To be completely honest, out of the three remaining fighters, any one of them could take this W. Superman has stated before that MM is stronger than the rest of the JLA combined and he has also said he has the disadvantage against cap mar head to head, but there has never been a definitive winner. And superman has shown how easily he can exploit a fire weakness with the white martians in new world order and supes has also shown to keep up with CM even with his magic weaknesses.  I pick superman because when everything else boils down, he's superman and he finds a way to win."
lol, after final crisis, MM "was" stronger
#31 Posted by The Man of Tomorrow (403 posts) - - Show Bio

Didn't MM die? Has he come back yet? And while that may be true, Superman has shown time and time again that he can outlast MM with his durability and stamina.

#32 Edited by Supreme Marvel (11264 posts) - - Show Bio

Yes he did die. No, he hasn't come back. He got buried on Mars.

#33 Posted by The Man of Tomorrow (403 posts) - - Show Bio
Supreme Marvel said:
"Yes he did die. No, he hasn't come back. He got buried on Mars."
Thanks. I missed that whole arc. I wonder what the future brings for MM. Maybe he'll be a Black Lantern. And didn't Preus lay the smack down on MM? And Preus and Superman are pretty much same powers but some slight differences. 
#34 Posted by Supreme Marvel (11264 posts) - - Show Bio
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#35 Posted by Lunacyde (17387 posts) - - Show Bio

Im thinking Captain Marvel

#36 Posted by Buckshot (18871 posts) - - Show Bio
the human Juggernaut said:
he won't be able to take out Marvel with mental attacks.  Also, does MM's intangibility stop him from getting hurt by magic?"
Why not? If it's a spell targeted at him, probably not, but if it's something physical that's also magic (like lightning or a fist powered by magic) I don't think he'd be affected.

The Man of Tomorrow said:
 I pick superman because when everything else boils down, he's superman and he finds a way to win."
He's the icon of DC, of course he wins in comics. That's not what this is about though.

The Man of Tomorrow said:
 Superman has shown time and time again that he can outlast MM with his durability and stamina."
What are all the times you're thinking of? What does durability matter against a mental attack or if MM is intangible or if he uses his other powers to add to his durability? 
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#37 Posted by Supreme Marvel (11264 posts) - - Show Bio

I find it funny that I don't even think Superman will win this war only the battle between MM and Gladiator.

My vote is still on Captain Marvel.

#38 Posted by Lunacyde (17387 posts) - - Show Bio

Captain Marvel doesnt have any glaring weaknesses like the other opponents and I could be wrong but I always got the impression he was the smartest of these 4.

#39 Posted by the human Juggernaut (7224 posts) - - Show Bio
Buckshot said:
"
the human Juggernaut said:
he won't be able to take out Marvel with mental attacks.  Also, does MM's intangibility stop him from getting hurt by magic?"
Why not? If it's a spell targeted at him, probably not, but if it's something physical that's also magic (like lightning or a fist powered by magic) I don't think he'd be affected.

The Man of Tomorrow said:
 I pick superman because when everything else boils down, he's superman and he finds a way to win."
He's the icon of DC, of course he wins in comics. That's not what this is about though.

The Man of Tomorrow said:
 Superman has shown time and time again that he can outlast MM with his durability and stamina."
What are all the times you're thinking of? What does durability matter against a mental attack or if MM is intangible or if he uses his other powers to add to his durability? 
"
Courage of Achilles protects him from mental attacks.
#40 Posted by the human Juggernaut (7224 posts) - - Show Bio
Buckshot said:
"
the human Juggernaut said:
he won't be able to take out Marvel with mental attacks.  Also, does MM's intangibility stop him from getting hurt by magic?"
Why not? If it's a spell targeted at him, probably not, but if it's something physical that's also magic (like lightning or a fist powered by magic) I don't think he'd be affected.

The Man of Tomorrow said:
 I pick superman because when everything else boils down, he's superman and he finds a way to win."
He's the icon of DC, of course he wins in comics. That's not what this is about though.

The Man of Tomorrow said:
 Superman has shown time and time again that he can outlast MM with his durability and stamina."
What are all the times you're thinking of? What does durability matter against a mental attack or if MM is intangible or if he uses his other powers to add to his durability? 
"
Courage of Achilles protects him from mental attacks.
#41 Posted by Supreme Marvel (11264 posts) - - Show Bio
Lunacyde said:
"Captain Marvel doesnt have any glaring weaknesses like the other opponents and I could be wrong but I always got the impression he was the smartest of these 4."
Wisdom of Solomon
#42 Posted by King Saturn (222855 posts) - - Show Bio
I still see Billy Baston taking second in this fight... Martian Manhunter has intangibilty and psychic powers to really battle against Marvel's magical power... I think MM wins this fight after a good fight with Captain Marvel...
#43 Posted by Supreme Marvel (11264 posts) - - Show Bio

I forgot, but what happened to MM when he battled Black Adam?

#44 Posted by King Saturn (222855 posts) - - Show Bio
Supreme Marvel said:
"I forgot, but what happened to MM when he battled Black Adam?"
But that was Black Adam. BA seemed somewhat mentally unstable during the World War 3 arc... I dont think it would go the same way with Captain Marvel...
#45 Posted by the human Juggernaut (7224 posts) - - Show Bio
Supreme Marvel said:
"I forgot, but what happened to MM when he battled Black Adam?"
MM flew into space after he read Adam's mind.
#46 Posted by Lunacyde (17387 posts) - - Show Bio

I don't know that MM's psychic powers would be effective against Marvel and I do think that Marvel could exploit MM weakness of fire and use his magic to his advantage.

#47 Posted by the human Juggernaut (7224 posts) - - Show Bio
Lunacyde said:
"

I don't know that MM's psychic powers would be effective against Marvel and I do think that Marvel could exploit MM weakness of fire and use his magic to his advantage.

"
yes, and he would know exactly what to do, thanks to Solomon.
#48 Posted by King Saturn (222855 posts) - - Show Bio
How would Marvel exploit MM weakness to fire so easy when he can become intangible ? And he was able to become intangible through SBP's Heat Vision...
#49 Posted by the human Juggernaut (7224 posts) - - Show Bio
King Saturn said:
"How would Marvel exploit MM weakness to fire so easy when he can become intangible ? And he was able to become intangible through SBP's Heat Vision...
"
fire magic
#50 Posted by Lunacyde (17387 posts) - - Show Bio

MM cannot remain intangible for the whole fight....

Besides who is to say that magical fire behaves by the same principles as normal fire....just asking