#1 Posted by HalJordan1986x (4760 posts) - - Show Bio
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#2 Posted by Sovereign Vance (735 posts) - - Show Bio

BRB.

#3 Posted by geraldthesloth (33313 posts) - - Show Bio

BRB

#4 Posted by Nighthunter (28582 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman

#5 Posted by never give up (9601 posts) - - Show Bio

I thought you guys put BFR for a moment lol.

#6 Edited by King Saturn (224186 posts) - - Show Bio
I think Superman would beat Beta Ray Bill... simply because Superman doesnt have the direct vunerablity to Magic anymore he used to have... and Bill cant slug it out with Superman...
#7 Posted by Nighthunter (28582 posts) - - Show Bio

just to point out: Superman was never weak to magic, he was vulnerable

#8 Posted by Static Shock (47329 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman.

#9 Posted by King Saturn (224186 posts) - - Show Bio
Nighthunter said:
"just to point out: Superman was never weak to magic, he was vulnerable"
Ah Yes. That was the Word I was looking for...
#10 Posted by geraldthesloth (33313 posts) - - Show Bio

Bill can slug it out

he has great durability

#11 Posted by King Saturn (224186 posts) - - Show Bio
geraldthesloth said:
"Bill can slug it out

he has great durability"
Beta Ray Bill isnt as strong or as fast as Superman though... he may have the durability and stamina... but his physical strength and speed will be what gets him into trouble here...
#12 Posted by Nighthunter (28582 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman has beaten gods and demigods in the past back when he was vulnerable to magic, same with captain marvel  who is the avatar of 6 different gods, I don't see how Beta Ray Bill will triumph where others couldn't

#13 Posted by King Saturn (224186 posts) - - Show Bio
Nighthunter said:
"Superman has beaten gods and demigods in the past back when he was vulnerable to magic, same with captain marvel  who is the avatar of 6 different gods, I don't see how Beta Ray Bill will triumph where others couldn't"
Good Point
#14 Posted by HalJordan1986x (4760 posts) - - Show Bio

So far 4 for superman
2 for brb

#15 Posted by Archdevil (378 posts) - - Show Bio

superman 

#16 Posted by geraldthesloth (33313 posts) - - Show Bio

BRB has taken down a warriors madness thor

#17 Posted by geraldthesloth (33313 posts) - - Show Bio

BRB has taken down a warriors madness thor

#18 Posted by Sovereign Vance (735 posts) - - Show Bio

Before this goes any further....let me say this.

Beta Ray Bill beating Warrior's Madness Thor...is ridiculous and
Superman beating being with magical abilities when that is one of his weaknesses is even worse.
#19 Posted by King Saturn (224186 posts) - - Show Bio
Sovereign Vance said:
"Before this goes any further....let me say this.
Beta Ray Bill beating Warrior's Madness Thor...is ridiculous and
Superman beating being with magical abilities when that is one of his weaknesses is even worse.
"
LMFAO  ! 
#20 Posted by HalJordan1986x (4760 posts) - - Show Bio

Magic isnt a weakness of superman's...

#21 Posted by Nighthunter (28582 posts) - - Show Bio
Sovereign Vance said:
"Before this goes any further....let me say this.
Beta Ray Bill beating Warrior's Madness Thor...is ridiculous and
Superman beating being with magical abilities when that is one of his weaknesses is even worse.
"
like I said superman was never weak to magic, he was vulnerable.

That means that magic could go through his usual defenses but at the end of the day they had as much effect on him as let's say wonder woman or green lantern

Not an issue now as Phantom Stranger and Zatanna got rid of that
#22 Posted by Dark King (3727 posts) - - Show Bio

a trained warrior with magical abilities hmm,..... i gotta go with BRB

#23 Posted by Sovereign Vance (735 posts) - - Show Bio
Nighthunter said:
"Sovereign Vance said:
"Before this goes any further....let me say this.
Beta Ray Bill beating Warrior's Madness Thor...is ridiculous and
Superman beating being with magical abilities when that is one of his weaknesses is even worse.
"
like I said superman was never weak to magic, he was vulnerable.

That means that magic could go through his usual defenses but at the end of the day they had as much effect on him as let's say wonder woman or green lantern

Not an issue now as Phantom Stranger and Zatanna got rid of that"
I know he doesn't have that vulnerability anymore but what I am saying is he had no defense before so beating people who can use magical abilities is ridiculous.
Why they took away that vulnerability is beyond me..damn near nothing hurts him to begin with.BRB will hurt him though.
#24 Posted by Nighthunter (28582 posts) - - Show Bio

maybe, but it could be argued that is the same as Martian Manhunter beating fire users or daredevil beating sonic users, it makes it more difficult, not impossible

#25 Posted by Sovereign Vance (735 posts) - - Show Bio
Nighthunter said:
"maybe, but it could be argued that is the same as Martian Manhunter beating fire users or daredevil beating sonic users, it makes it more difficult, not impossible"
I don't know about Martian Manhunter but Daredevil never resisted sonic users.If someone used a sonic weapon against him..he either knocked the weapon out of their hand,broke the weapon or took cover.They never used it on him and he still one.No if Martian Manhunter was burned in a fight that he won..that is ridiculous,but if he fought a fire user and dodged all of his attacks..than that makes sense.
Now...As far as Beta Ray Bill & Superman...Superman may not be vulnerable to magic but he is vulnerable to energy manipulation.
#26 Posted by Ares105 (142 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman over BRB

#27 Posted by HalJordan1986x (4760 posts) - - Show Bio

How is BRB going to even hit Supes?

#28 Edited by Sovereign Vance (735 posts) - - Show Bio
HalJordan1986x said:
"How is BRB going to even hit Supes?"
Easy...he's lifts his hammer and bangs him in the face.
#29 Posted by never give up (9601 posts) - - Show Bio
Sovereign Vance said:
"HalJordan1986x said:
"How is BRB going to even hit Supes?"
Easy...he's lifts his hammer and bangs him in the face."
Superman is much faster than him lol.  But funny post btw...
#30 Posted by Nighthunter (28582 posts) - - Show Bio
Sovereign Vance said:
"Nighthunter said:
"maybe, but it could be argued that is the same as Martian Manhunter beating fire users or daredevil beating sonic users, it makes it more difficult, not impossible"
I don't know about Martian Manhunter but Daredevil never resisted sonic users.If someone used a sonic weapon against him..he either knocked the weapon out of their hand,broke the weapon or took cover.They never used it on him and he still one.No if Martian Manhunter was burned in a fight that he won..that is ridiculous,but if he fought a fire user and dodged all of his attacks..than that makes sense.
Now...As far as Beta Ray Bill & Superman...Superman may not be vulnerable to magic but he is vulnerable to energy manipulation.
"
I recall you using that Daredevil had fought against people that used sonics as an argument before

Martian Manhunter was hit by several firebenders/users, yet in Final Crisis he was still able to give a fight to some of the most lethal villains while having a fire lance through his hearth before dying

Superman basically works the same way, he may have been vulnerable to magic but receiving attacks of it while it hurt him, didn't stop him from keep going
#31 Posted by Dark King (3727 posts) - - Show Bio

if the battle is in space speed wont be an issue  for BRB once he starts flying if anything supes would be frozen in place while BRB is moving 3x faster than light

if supes slow down for an instant in a blitz  he is taking a beating of his life

#32 Posted by Sovereign Vance (735 posts) - - Show Bio
Nighthunter said:
"Sovereign Vance said:
"Nighthunter said:
"maybe, but it could be argued that is the same as Martian Manhunter beating fire users or daredevil beating sonic users, it makes it more difficult, not impossible"
I don't know about Martian Manhunter but Daredevil never resisted sonic users.If someone used a sonic weapon against him..he either knocked the weapon out of their hand,broke the weapon or took cover.They never used it on him and he still one.No if Martian Manhunter was burned in a fight that he won..that is ridiculous,but if he fought a fire user and dodged all of his attacks..than that makes sense.
Now...As far as Beta Ray Bill & Superman...Superman may not be vulnerable to magic but he is vulnerable to energy manipulation.
"
I recall you using that Daredevil had fought against people that used sonics as an argument before

Martian Manhunter was hit by several firebenders/users, yet in Final Crisis he was still able to give a fight to some of the most lethal villains while having a fire lance through his hearth before dying

Superman basically works the same way, he may have been vulnerable to magic but receiving attacks of it while it hurt him, didn't stop him from keep going"
I did use it as an arguement before because people act like all you have to do it have a somic weapon and you beat Daredevil.If you use it on him effectively than yes..there is no way he can win.But if you have a sonic cannon and Daredevil breaks you hands before you can shoot it than you don't have the advantage anymore.
Martian Manhunter being burned when fire is his weakness is ridiculous.If he were to dodge the fire or something like that then that would make sense.Same thing with Superman..if someone shoots a magic beam at him and he dodges it..that makes sense.. but to be hit with the beam and resist it is utterly ridiculous.
#33 Posted by Nighthunter (28582 posts) - - Show Bio
Dark King said:
"if the battle is in space speed wont be an issue  for BRB once he starts flying if anything supes would be frozen in place while BRB is moving 3x faster than light

if supes slow down for an instant in a blitz  he is taking a beating of his life

"
you do know that superman moves faster in space as there ain't anything to hit there?

Superman has shown to be able to move faster than 3 times the speed of light...

He went from the Earth to the sun and return to the same place in less than a minute, a trip that takes 8 minutes (one way) at the speed of light, do the math
#34 Posted by Nighthunter (28582 posts) - - Show Bio
Sovereign Vance said:
"Nighthunter said:
"Sovereign Vance said:
"Nighthunter said:
"maybe, but it could be argued that is the same as Martian Manhunter beating fire users or daredevil beating sonic users, it makes it more difficult, not impossible"
I don't know about Martian Manhunter but Daredevil never resisted sonic users.If someone used a sonic weapon against him..he either knocked the weapon out of their hand,broke the weapon or took cover.They never used it on him and he still one.No if Martian Manhunter was burned in a fight that he won..that is ridiculous,but if he fought a fire user and dodged all of his attacks..than that makes sense.
Now...As far as Beta Ray Bill & Superman...Superman may not be vulnerable to magic but he is vulnerable to energy manipulation.
"
I recall you using that Daredevil had fought against people that used sonics as an argument before

Martian Manhunter was hit by several firebenders/users, yet in Final Crisis he was still able to give a fight to some of the most lethal villains while having a fire lance through his hearth before dying

Superman basically works the same way, he may have been vulnerable to magic but receiving attacks of it while it hurt him, didn't stop him from keep going"
I did use it as an arguement before because people act like all you have to do it have a somic weapon and you beat Daredevil.If you use it on him effectively than yes..there is no way he can win.But if you have a sonic cannon and Daredevil breaks you hands before you can shoot it than you don't have the advantage anymore.
Martian Manhunter being burned when fire is his weakness is ridiculous.If he were to dodge the fire or something like that then that would make sense.Same thing with Superman..if someone shoots a magic beam at him and he dodges it..that makes sense.. but to be hit with the beam and resist it is utterly ridiculous.
"
maybe. but Superman has always be kept as someone who can go against gods (and can easily be considered one) logic or not, those are feats that Superman has done, it hasn't be done only once to make it pass as bad writing though
#35 Posted by Dark King (3727 posts) - - Show Bio

yes he can be inconsistantly fast but the problem remains can he match BRB once they start fighting in combat which will be very likely

#36 Posted by Nighthunter (28582 posts) - - Show Bio

you just said that superman matches beta ray bill in speed...

#37 Posted by King Saturn (224186 posts) - - Show Bio
Sovereign Vance said:
"HalJordan1986x said:
"How is BRB going to even hit Supes?"
Easy...he's lifts his hammer and bangs him in the face."
Ha Ha Ha  ! 
#38 Posted by Dark King (3727 posts) - - Show Bio

i didnt say he matches him in speed i said from the beginning once it becomes physical fight he will lose since i dont see supes reflex being 3x or higher FTL  maybe his flying speed not reflex.

#39 Posted by Nighthunter (28582 posts) - - Show Bio

considering that he reacts to attacks of the flash and that he has shown to be able to use his mind on superspeed

yeah...

#40 Edited by Dark King (3727 posts) - - Show Bio

the same super mind speed that let's him get hit by normal human reaction speed  like batman.

i equate his speed just like any other power he has to activate it just like his heat vision or any other power focus.
  people like to think like his powers are constantly on

#41 Posted by Nighthunter (28582 posts) - - Show Bio
Dark King said:
"the same super mind speed that let's him get hit by normal human reaction speed  like batman.
plot, Batman is DC's posterboy, ofcourse he will win.

Superman doesn't even have to avoid though, even with kryptonite if someone hits him he hurts himself

Think of when Daredevil punched Luke Cage and increase it a 100 or 1000 times...
#42 Posted by Dark King (3727 posts) - - Show Bio

so was grundy hitting supe plot as well?

#43 Posted by Nighthunter (28582 posts) - - Show Bio
Dark King said:
"so was grundy hitting supe plot as well?"
considering that when he wants no one can touch him (vibration trick taught to him by flash) yeah, think it this way, if superman used speed to never be touched by anyone, his comic fights would be boring beyond words...
#44 Posted by HalJordan1986x (4760 posts) - - Show Bio
Sovereign Vance said:
"HalJordan1986x said:
"How is BRB going to even hit Supes?"
Easy...he's lifts his hammer and bangs him in the face."
That might work if only Supes wasnt several hundred times faster then BRB

BTW do you change your pic every five minutes or something>?
#45 Posted by Static Shock (47329 posts) - - Show Bio

I think that any character resisting his/her weakness is bullsh!t.

#46 Posted by Sovereign Vance (735 posts) - - Show Bio
HalJordan1986x said:
"Sovereign Vance said:
"HalJordan1986x said:
"How is BRB going to even hit Supes?"
Easy...he's lifts his hammer and bangs him in the face."
That might work if only Supes wasnt several hundred times faster then BRB

BTW do you change your pic every five minutes or something>?"
No..I don't change my pic every 5 minutes..this is a different account and I had that Dr.Strange avatar all month.
Anyway...Superman being faster than Beta Ray Bill doesn't mean anything.Superman is a brawler and he doesn't always use his speed even when he's fighting to the best of his ability..he still gets hit by people slower than him.
#47 Posted by HalJordan1986x (4760 posts) - - Show Bio
Sovereign Vance said:
"HalJordan1986x said:
"Sovereign Vance said:
"HalJordan1986x said:
"How is BRB going to even hit Supes?"
Easy...he's lifts his hammer and bangs him in the face."
That might work if only Supes wasnt several hundred times faster then BRB

BTW do you change your pic every five minutes or something>?"
No..I don't change my pic every 5 minutes..this is a different account and I had that Dr.Strange avatar all month.
Anyway...Superman being faster than Beta Ray Bill doesn't mean anything.Superman is a brawler and he doesn't always use his speed even when he's fighting to the best of his ability..he still gets hit by people slower than him.
"
And do you have like 8 accounts or something?
Supes can fight very well being trained by Bats wonder woman wildcat and mongul

supes fighting bigger slower opponents like grundy and doomsday is just good writing

Hes been able to react and counter attacks from the flash

BRB would never be able to touch him
#48 Posted by Fresh Prince (5147 posts) - - Show Bio

BRB

#49 Posted by HalJordan1986x (4760 posts) - - Show Bio
Fresh Prince said:
"BRB" loses
#50 Posted by Fresh Prince (5147 posts) - - Show Bio
HalJordan1986x said:
"Fresh Prince said:
"BRB" loses
"
wow nice :P