Superman vs Batman (Boxing Match)

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• Both half-naked(not geared)
• Post Crisis Superman vs Post Crisis Batman
• Superman's Speed limited with cheetah's(animal) top speed,Superman's Strength Limited with Bears Strength,Healing Factor:ON,Arctic Breath,Flight,Vision Powers,Durability,Molecular Vibration etc. all powers :OFF
• Morals:OFF,They are not in the character
• Bloodlust:ON
• Fighting with only fists,h2h
• K.O is enough for the Win
• They can't leave the ring
• Area:Professional Boxing Ring(open area,morning,warm and sunny day)

Batman is the obvious winner here.

Batman wins.Hopefully this goes more well than the Thor vs Wolverine match.

BATMAN!

Cause he's BATMAN

Superman lost to Ali in a boxing match. Meanwhile, Batman has been trained under Wildcat, the best boxer in the DC Universe. This isn't even remotely fair.

In other words, it's Batman against a Superman imposter. Never understood the point of hamstringing characters to this degree.

@yourneighborhoodcomicgeek: That was the Silver Age wasn't it?

Yeah. Unfortunately, Superman hasn't improved much in terms of boxing since then. He's had some showings of Kryptonian martial arts and pressure point techniques, but the former isn't impressive compared to Batman's Wildcat training, and the latter was taught by Batman himself.

Uh, Supes was also trained by WIldcat to box.

Not to the degree that Batman was with Wildcat. Mix that in with Wayne's vastly superior hand-to-hand and martial arts knowledge, and Superman isn't walking out any less bruised than the fight with Ali.

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Those are two examples from ROBIN #31 and 52 #23. I just don't see any of Superman's training holding up to Batman's own, especially considering he has a lot more experience as well.

So Superman still has bear strength and cheetah speed according to the OP?.....Pretty sure he can win this, it's just a boxing match. Anything else Bats uses disqualifies him.

superman's strength level was upgraded

@yourneighborhoodcomicgeek said:

@comicstooge said:

@yourneighborhoodcomicgeek said:

@reaverlation said:

@yourneighborhoodcomicgeek: That was the Silver Age wasn't it?

Yeah. Unfortunately, Superman hasn't improved much in terms of boxing since then. He's had some showings of Kryptonian martial arts and pressure point techniques, but the former isn't impressive compared to Batman's Wildcat training, and the latter was taught by Batman himself.

Uh, Supes was also trained by WIldcat to box.

Not to the degree that Batman was with Wildcat. Mix that in with Wayne's vastly superior hand-to-hand and martial arts knowledge, and Superman isn't walking out any less bruised than the fight with Ali.

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Those are two examples from ROBIN #31 and 52 #23. I just don't see any of Superman's training holding up to Batman's own, especially considering he has a lot more experience as well.

I wasn't debating for Supes, just point that out, man.

@yourneighborhoodcomicgeek: I know Batman wins just that Superman doesn't lack fighting skills that's all :)

@comicstooge: Oh okay.

@reaverlation said:

He's alright. He doesn't display it most of the time, but he isn't completely ignorant when it comes to martial arts knowledge. Potentially, he could learn all martial arts styles in an instant similar to the fashion where he learned complex medical procedures. However, it isn't in his character, and he is nowhere near as formidable as even some of the C-List combatants of the DC Universe. I do agree with you though.

People, people! Open your god**** unbiased eyes and look at the rules carefully!

Both contestants' morals are off and they are both blood lusted meaning they'll be fighting without holding back and at their peak.

Superman's Speed limited with cheetah's(animal) top speed,Superman's Strength Limited with Bears Strength,Healing Factor:ON

Next, read carefully that Superman can run circles around Batman and maul him with his bear-like-strength. And take into consideration that his healing factor is on, meaning that he'll heal from the sun's rays which lays on every space you can think of within Earth.

The only advantage Batman has here is his h2h-combat skills. Superman has a hyuuuge advantage with Cheetah's speed, a Bear's strength (which generously surpass' man's strength) and his durability (healing factor).

Superman curbs Batman's head.

Da-na-na-na-na-na-BATMAN!

Both contestants morals are off, which means Batman quickly ends Superman's life with a barrage of deadly nerve strike and pressure point techniques, effecting the victim regardless of their strength, speed, or durability. If this method isn't usable due to the boxing rules, Batman knows plenty of other lethal blows.

Batman's peak is significantly better than Superman's peak considering Clark is completely featless without his Kryptonian superpowers, and at best has average durability.

You're assuming that a strength of a bear and the speed of a cheetah is anywhere close to Batman's striking power and speed. C'mon now. This is comic books we're talking about. Tell me when a cheetah can easily outpace and dodge bullets and complex laser security systems, and when a bear can bend steel with ease. Heck, Batman has already straight-up defeated both a cheetah and a tiger specially trained by Catman. Superman's healing factor is irrelevant when, chances are, the boxing match is indoors, limiting the sunlight exposure, and when Batman has instantaneous killing blows. Heck, Batman already knows how to knock out superhumans non-lethally, let alone with a killing blow.

Superman is at every single disadvantage. He lacks the skill, durability, speed, and strength to hurt even a morals on Batman. Your using an ordinary man in real life to compare with Batman in a fictional, comic book universe. It just doesn't fit.

Batman stomps with absolute ease.

Don't let this turn into the other boxing match por fa?

Where's the fun if it doesn't?

Replace Ultraman with Superman.

Batman kills Superman.

@experio: Well both threads should be obvious as both Batman and Wolverine would win against Superman and Thor

If Batman wins he'll have a hard time doing it since Superman still has his HF.

Even with his powers off..Superman is still Kryptonian, so wouldn't his durability baseline still be higher than that of a human?

@reaverlation: While I agree that Batman wins here but Thor doesn't lose to Wolverine, both scenarios differentiate from each other in stats. Logan there has skill and striking power while Thor has his stamina and speed which will confirm him more hits therefore scoring more points while dodging at the same time without sustenance. But this match-up isn't as close as Thor and Wolverines boxing fight.

Batman stomps him with ease.

Supes without his powers is just basically a piece of meat compared to batman..

And supes is notoriously known to fight like a hillbilly..

Batman rapes him in the ring michael buffer had a heart attack.

Hmmm...Batman !

Bruce

Batman.

Superman will be to fast and will be to hard to put down.

Superman would still win. While batman has the advantage in hand-to-hand combat, superman still has been given cheetah speed, and the power of a bear. I don't even know if this would be close...

@derrick_nolan Strength and speed mean next to nothing when you're not good at fighting, even then Batman is stronger than a bear and faster than a Cheetah.
Bears are strong enough to push around eight hundred pound boulders, but that's about it, Cheetah's run about 120- MPH.
Batman has successfully lifted more than eight hundred pounds a few times, and has dodged bullets, which travel a nine millimeter bullet travels at six hundred eighty one miles per hour.
Batman surpasses both bear strength and Cheetah speed, and goes on to destroy Superman in the ring.

@mastermouse: Ha batman is not as fast as a cheetah! Nor is he as strong as a bear! Plus throw in superman's healing factor. That's game...

This is comic books. Batman is far faster than a cheetah, and far stronger than a bear.

@derrick_nolan: I mathematically proved it, seriously.
@yourneighborhoodcomicgeek Thankyou. :D

Yeah, he's supposed to be ''peak human'' but his strength feats go further than a bear. I wouldn't put him at the strength of a Hippo or a Rhino.

@frozen: Agreed.

@mastermouse: No problem bud.

@mastermouse: @yourneighborhoodcomicgeek: So batman can run 120 hours per mile? This is off-topic but, when ever people mention a batman vs captain america fight why is there even an argument if batman is stronger than a bear, and can run 120 mph and dodge bullets? Hell, why is he even considered a "human?"

In a boxing match, travel speed is irrelevant, especially in a tight, professional boxing ring. The only thing that matters is combat-speed, and Batman has defeated a tiger and leopard on-panel before already.

@yourneighborhoodcomicgeek: Ok so batman and superman are about even here at strength and speed. The game-breaker then becomes superman's healing factor. Supes wins.

Me and comicgeek have both proven that they are not even, in this situation, Bats is both faster and stronger than Supes.
And obviously, Batman is a much better boxer, healing factor or not, Batman stomps.

Healing factor is also irrelevant if Batman is significantly more skilled and can drop Superman.

That just means current Superman would get killed by Ali instead of losing to him. xD

@jeepeh: To Superman's credit, Muhammad Ali is the greatest Heavyweight to have ever boxed. The comic was also published at a time when Muhammad Ali ruled the world.

Both probably get DQ'd for hitting illegal areas.

Only by people who don't actually know the character...

Superman is actually a highly trained fighter, and has been trained for years personally by Batman. He's not the best fighter on DC Earth, but I can make a case that batman isn't either. Batman is likely more skilled than superman, but superman is very skilled, and can potentially take down batman. Batman is the more likely winner in this scenario (assuming they don't get DQ'd for killing someone/illegal moves), but superman is definitely more skilled than many people give him credit for.

Well it's possible Muhammad Ali could beat Ted Grant in a Boxing Match... remember, Ali beat Foreman when he was Undefeated and a Powerful Striker at the time... Ted Grant seems like Rocky Marciano in Boxing Style and Capability... but Ali could beat Rocky Marciano.

Bats

Muhammad Ali would destroy Rocky Marciano. It's true, that George Foreman was a formidable puncher - and probably stronger than Mike Tyson was. It really depends on which version of Ted that Ali fights.