Superman could win
Superman vs Avengers
New 52 Superman = MASSIVELY strong, Super Fast (not FTL, not faster than Flash or Cheetah), and nerfed durability (compared to his old self).
He'll be just fine, doing damage at high speeds, until THIS happens:
Thor solos
@dogsoldier88: Thor solos, but Supes in the new 52 is still FTL fast.
@clark_el: I re-read some issues, and he did go to the sun and back SEEMINGLY quickly, so the calcs on that travel would suggest FTL.
@herokiller12344: hasn't Thor already fought on the surface of the sun ? lol
No, Thor has fought in the center of the Sun. Even more impressive than the surface.
@mysticmedivh: @herokiller12344: so wth would heat vision do to him ? Lmao
@mysticmedivh: @herokiller12344: so wth would heat vision do to him ? Lmao
Nothing much really. Unless I'm corrected, New 52 Superman's heat vision isn't near Pre 52 Superman's level
@dregonspengler: well draining the yellow sun radiation from his cells probably would take longer than a second .
@uugieboogie: Superman's suit helps contain solar energy now, as seen in action comics annual # 2. That being said Superman blitzes Thor before he can drain him!
@dregonspengler: A good ole fashion god blast should do the trick or spam continuous lightning . Supes has always had a problem with a electricity for some reason .
supes beats the other avengers in less than a second. then he throws thor into the sun.
And then gets his face smashed in by Thor's hammer. What's the sun going to do? Nothing!
@uugieboogie: Superman is currently able to travel at FTL speeds as seen in Red Hood and the outlaws issue 14, and is fast enough to tag Flash, as seen in issue # 2 of Justice League. Superman has also been shown to speed blitz on a few occasions as well one being Issue 20 of Superman when he was fighting Orion and another time in Superman issue # 27 where he again speedblitzed Parasite.
That being said Superman can avoid Thor's godblast and speedblitz him for the win.
New 52 Superman = MASSIVELY strong, Super Fast (not FTL, not faster than Flash or Cheetah), and nerfed durability (compared to his old self).
He'll be just fine, doing damage at high speeds, until THIS happens:
to me he seems stronger in every way. he benches the earth. he can move planets again. the old one needed help from dianna.
Joseph
Too bad this isn't Bleeding Edge Iron Man. He may have actually been able to put up a good fight with Superman.
Either way, Thor could possibly beat him alone, so adding Iron Man (with or without his Bleeding Edge suit, as long as it's still Extremis at least) and Hulk just makes this a stomp.
Avengers win, either Thor or Hulk would give Supes a good fight, everybody else is a non factor though.
Team
Thor and hulk is the only problem, the rest gets annihilated
This. I think it could go either way, but I'm leaning more to the team.
Superman would murder all the avengers except for hulk which would rip him to pieces and shit on them
Thor would beat superman so sick of people thinking thor is so minor compared to supes the man pushed the tree of life! he carried the midgard serpent he would crush clark easily!
Fast-forward after 2 years.
Thor is unworthy.
Hulk is Doc Green.
Superman stomp. I like these threads where they op says current version and a that moment in time your character might be de-powered so it changes the victory out come.
I am sure if this thread was made when the new 52 action comic one came this would have been the other way around.
Until then.
@jayfournines: bullshit Thor solos
Superman wins
He is stronger than all the Avengers, benching the weight of Earth for 5 days, pushing half of Brainiac's mother ship away which was 40 times the size of Earth, punches that shook the planet and felt all to the watch tower against H'El
He is massively FTL flew from Pluto to Earth in seconds, flew to the sun in under 5 minutes, tagged the Flash, speed blitzed Orion, Mongul etc
In morals off he can speed blitz all the Avengers before they could do anything, he can move much faster than they can even think and process their moves they would be like statues to him
Superman also has the durability and feats to hang with them such as surviving going through a few black holes in the Superman Doomed story + we have heat vision and freeze breath all those other abilities
Hulk gets thrown into orbit at super speeds or the sun, Thor gets speed blitzed with multiple "planet moving punches" before Thor himself can land one blow, Superman would see his moves like a frozen statue, the rest of the Avengers are non factors
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