Frieza army is coming to destroy the earth, and only one who stands between them and the earth is superman.
Will superman be able to save us? Will he be able to win the fight?
Superman vs 1 000 friezas, final form
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Going by the law of the conservation of ninjitsu, each of these friezas should be less capable at combat than a child. So supes stomps.
At first I just thought, Superman wins. But this is actually a very interesting question. Frieza in his final form was 12,000,000 (12 million) multiply that by 1000 and you have 12,000,000,000 (12 billion). Now think about this, Goku's most powerful (canon) form which was Super Saiyan 3 was only 450,000,000 (450 million). That being said, when the Goku/Superman debate is always ended in, "It can go either way, etc, etc..." This here is substantial evidence that Superman would indeed lose this match.
@Count Bleck: Frieza was one of the most skilled fighters in the universe. You're talking about a being that best guys with his hands tied behind his back.
In character Superman gets stomped horribly.
Out of character - Supreman has a chance to speedblitz.
@TerrellV13 said:
At first I just thought, Superman wins. But this is actually a very interesting question. Frieza in his final form was 12,000,000 (12 million) multiply that by 1000 and you have 12,000,000,000 (12 billion). Now think about this, Goku's most powerful (canon) form which was Super Saiyan 3 was only 450,000,000 (450 million). That being said, when the Goku/Superman debate is always ended in, "It can go either way, etc, etc..." This here is substantial evidence that Superman would indeed lose this match.
I agree ^^^ ... Although one Frieza can destroy a planet with his finger in his first form, does Superman even stand a chance?
@SSJLozza: I agree wholeheartedly but there's no way Vegeta could stomp Supes. Sure, Goku could but never Vegeta.
@TerrellV13 said:
At first I just thought, Superman wins. But this is actually a very interesting question. Frieza in his final form was 12,000,000 (12 million) multiply that by 1000 and you have 12,000,000,000 (12 billion). Now think about this, Goku's most powerful (canon) form which was Super Saiyan 3 was only 450,000,000 (450 million). That being said, when the Goku/Superman debate is always ended in, "It can go either way, etc, etc..." This here is substantial evidence that Superman would indeed lose this match.
Frieza's power level was 120 million, not 12 million.
If people say that Goku could beat Supes, why would anyone think that One thousand Friezas is a good fight?
@Laurcus said:
@TerrellV13 said:
At first I just thought, Superman wins. But this is actually a very interesting question. Frieza in his final form was 12,000,000 (12 million) multiply that by 1000 and you have 12,000,000,000 (12 billion). Now think about this, Goku's most powerful (canon) form which was Super Saiyan 3 was only 450,000,000 (450 million). That being said, when the Goku/Superman debate is always ended in, "It can go either way, etc, etc..." This here is substantial evidence that Superman would indeed lose this match.
Frieza's power level was 120 million, not 12 million.
Sorry guys I got my math wrong. So instead of 12 billion, superman is going against a combined power level of 120,000,000,000 (120 billion) Superman is going to get his A$$ beat.
Hard to compare these two universes. In DBZ Vegeta could destroy a planet when before he even got to Earth the first time, I believe his PL was around 20,000 then. Superman has clearly shown to be one of the strongest beings in DC but hasn't ever shown that kind of raw power. I initially though superman would win this out right cutting through the Friezas faster than Trunks did, but its hard to put them on the same level when DC doesn't typically display that kind of destructive power. Even Darkseid's Omega Beams look like child's play next to some of the ridiculous energy beams they have in DBZ. If they were both drawn written by the same person I think superman would win, but as it stands the Friezas would win by combining their beam, similar to how Goku's father tried to stop Frieza, into a reality destroying beam of destruction.
@Captain_Awesome85: True, and if all else fails Frieza in character would just blow up the sun (would it take 5 minutes?) so yeah, Frieza wins.
@TerrellV13 said:
@Mattersuit: Because 1000 Friezas have a combined power level that would stomp both Goku and Supes.
So it's not a good fight at all. It's an insane mismatch.
@TerrellV13 said:
At first I just thought, Superman wins. But this is actually a very interesting question. Frieza in his final form was 12,000,000 (12 million) multiply that by 1000 and you have 12,000,000,000 (12 billion). Now think about this, Goku's most powerful (canon) form which was Super Saiyan 3 was only 450,000,000 (450 million). That being said, when the Goku/Superman debate is always ended in, "It can go either way, etc, etc..." This here is substantial evidence that Superman would indeed lose this match.
well, it doesn't really work like that.. it's like saying vegeta facing a dozen cui's will have any different result.. power levels do not add up numerically..
@Mattersuit said:
@TerrellV13 said:
@Mattersuit: Because 1000 Friezas have a combined power level that would stomp both Goku and Supes.
So it's not a good fight at all. It's an insane mismatch.
well yup.. putting 1000 casual planet busters against one guy isn't that good an idea even for man of steel.. but not due to the reason mentioned.. Power levels need vector addition lol
1000 Freezas? We have a thread were people argue 1 Freeze might beat Superman, I don't think we settled what SSJ level Goku can match Superman yet ....
@AmazingScrewOnHead said:
They need Kryptonite do they not? Or can Superman be killed in any other ways.
He can be beaten through physical force.
@TerrellV13 said:Absolute curbstomp for Frieza, Frieza is a planet-buster who at one time beat Vegeta. Vegeta would beat SM without much trouble at least at SSJ1+. 1000 Friezas is like saying a 1000 tanks vs one guy with a rocket launcher...
@SSJLozza: I agree wholeheartedly but there's no way Vegeta could stomp Supes. Sure, Goku could but never Vegeta.
In character Superman gets stomped horribly. Out of character - Supreman has a chance to speedblitz.
He either does stomp or gets stomped. Depends on morals.@jobbernos said:
supes stomps.
No he doesn't.
@czarny_samael666 said:
@SSJLozza said:@TerrellV13 said:Absolute curbstomp for Frieza, Frieza is a planet-buster who at one time beat Vegeta. Vegeta would beat SM without much trouble at least at SSJ1+. 1000 Friezas is like saying a 1000 tanks vs one guy with a rocket launcher...
@SSJLozza: I agree wholeheartedly but there's no way Vegeta could stomp Supes. Sure, Goku could but never Vegeta.
Vegeta, Goku and Frieza together would lose to Superman without morals.
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@czarny_samael666 said:In character Superman gets stomped horribly. Out of character - Supreman has a chance to speedblitz.
@laflux said:He either does stomp or gets stomped. Depends on morals.@jobbernos said:
supes stomps.
No he doesn't.
Its New-52 Supes and Standard morals, if were using the OP.
(-__-)....okay....these DBZ vs threads are starting to get out of hand. IMO it's hard to compare the DBZ anime universe against comics....You have characters in DBZ/DBGT universes with power levels of 100,000,000,000 or whatever!..How can we feasibly compare that to MARVEL/DC or whatever comicbook characters in a fight?!
Oh yeah, and I'd like it if you guys checked my discussion too.
http://www.comicvine.com/superman/29-1807/questions-about-supermans-powers/92-729006/
@jobbernos said:
@laflux: yes he does and yeah its new 52 supes thats why he stomps hes already has a huge feat of lifting the planet for 5 days and wanted to do more.
But he also has cruddy durability and speed. Outside that feat, which was really lobbedell wank, he is not nearly as impressive as before.
@jobbernos said:
@laflux: actually his speed is unimaginable he has the best speed feat so far he flew from pluto to earth in seconds or less and his durability is impeccable.
He has not done that in New-52, and his durability isn't great as he bled from a Punch from a Bane enhanced batman.
@laflux said:
@jobbernos said:
@laflux: actually his speed is unimaginable he has the best speed feat so far he flew from pluto to earth in seconds or less and his durability is impeccable.
He has not done that in New-52, and his durability isn't great as he bled from a Punch from a Bane enhanced batman.
The speed part actually is from New 52 and took place during Red Hood and The Outsiders 14. The durability part though, although we have not seen Superman KOed yet, at least not that i know of apart from a black hand bi*ch slap by Helspont he has bled from strike far too easily. Wonder Woman made him bleed, so did GL , so did Captain Marvel, so did Cheetah, and lol so did Batman :p
@Killemall said:
@laflux said:
@jobbernos said:
@laflux: actually his speed is unimaginable he has the best speed feat so far he flew from pluto to earth in seconds or less and his durability is impeccable.
He has not done that in New-52, and his durability isn't great as he bled from a Punch from a Bane enhanced batman.
The speed part actually is from New 52 and took place during Red Hood and The Outsiders 14. The durability part though, although we have not seen Superman KOed yet, at least not that i know of apart from a black hand bi*ch slap by Helspont he has bled from strike far too easily. Wonder Woman made him bleed, so did GL , so did Captain Marvel, so did Cheetah, and lol so did Batman :p
Well again I haven't read up that part yet, so yet another face induced face-palm especially since I was bested by jobbernos. Getting the feeling they are making Supes quite inconsistent.
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