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#1  Edited By OmegaDynasty

 
 
 
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Superman 
Thor 
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Magneto 
Dr.Light 
Graviton 
Sentry  
Lex Luthor 
Dotor Doom.
 
  
  
 

 
 
 
 
Location: Metropolis 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Rules:  
 WInner by Death/KO 
 Team 2 has a hour a hour of prep. 
Morals off.
Team 1 bloodl lusted.  
No BFR. (Destroying the city, planet, either.) 
No Odinforce/Thorforce. 
No Void.  
No Sundipping, superman has a hour of sun amping. ( Standing in front of the sun, soaking up the radiation.)
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#2  Edited By cattlebattle

I think Supes and Thor die, there is no real threat in the strength department, but they are outpowered

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#3  Edited By OmegaDynasty
@cattlebattle said:
I think Supes and Thor die, there is no real threat in the strength department, but they are outpowered
Not sure if a speed blitz would work.  
I know the majority of them would die if Supes or Thor got there hands on them. 
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#4  Edited By buttersdaman000

Superman and Thor
Nobody there is really a threat to them, especially blood lusted

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#5  Edited By TheCerealKillz

Team 2 wins.

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#6  Edited By cattlebattle
@OmegaDynasty said:
@cattlebattle said:
I think Supes and Thor die, there is no real threat in the strength department, but they are outpowered
Not sure if a speed blitz would work.  I know the majority of them would die if Supes or Thor got there hands on them. 
Well Team 2 has an hour prep with Luthor and Doom, thats a major advantage right there. Graviton takes speedblitzing out of play a bit. I've never actually seen how Magneto affects Mjoilnir.
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#7  Edited By the_stegman  Moderator

team 2 
 
with prep Graviton and Magneto create a field around their entire team to nullify any speed supes and Thor has, so speed blitz is out, after that Doom and Luthor take them down via prepared weakness manipulation (kryptonite blasts, magically reducing Thor's powers)

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#8  Edited By OmegaDynasty
@cattlebattle said:
@OmegaDynasty said:
@cattlebattle said:
I think Supes and Thor die, there is no real threat in the strength department, but they are outpowered
Not sure if a speed blitz would work.  I know the majority of them would die if Supes or Thor got there hands on them. 
Well Team 2 has an hour prep with Luthor and Doom, thats a major advantage right there. Graviton takes speedblitzing out of play a bit. I've never actually seen how Magneto affects Mjoilnir.
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Team 2. Sentry solos if he has access to the Void.

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#10  Edited By Blood_guts

team 2 destroys team one has no hope

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#11  Edited By cattlebattle
@OmegaDynasty said:
@cattlebattle said:
@OmegaDynasty said:
@cattlebattle said:
I think Supes and Thor die, there is no real threat in the strength department, but they are outpowered
Not sure if a speed blitz would work.  I know the majority of them would die if Supes or Thor got there hands on them. 
Well Team 2 has an hour prep with Luthor and Doom, thats a major advantage right there. Graviton takes speedblitzing out of play a bit. I've never actually seen how Magneto affects Mjoilnir.
Thanks for the scan, but this is old, Mags is waaaaaaaay more powerful these days, and Thor is written so inconsistently...I have no clue
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#12  Edited By buttersdaman000
@cattlebattle: @The Stegman
How does a magnetic field stop Speed Blitz?
Why would Superman/ Thor sit there and let themselves get hit?
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#13  Edited By cattlebattle
@buttersdaman000 said:
@cattlebattle: @The Stegman:  How does a magnetic field stop Speed Blitz? Why would Superman/ Thor sit there and let themselves get hit?
I said Graviton affects speed blitz
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#14  Edited By buttersdaman000
@cattlebattle
How?
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#15  Edited By cattlebattle
@buttersdaman000 said:
@cattlebattle:  How?
Gravity control. He can freeze them dead in their track, its a force of reality, It can be used like telekinesis
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#16  Edited By the_stegman  Moderator
@buttersdaman000: How? because Graviton affects ...gravity, Graviton enhances the gravity around them tenfold. if superman and thor are flying at them at full speed, as soon as they hit graviton's field they will fall down
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#17  Edited By OmegaDynasty

Well, if it's to much of spite for the team. I might have to take out the prepers. Not sure if that would make it a more fair battle. 

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#18  Edited By buttersdaman000
@cattlebattle: @The Stegman
How would he see them coming?
Speed Blitz would be too fast for them to react?
Increasing the gravity around characters like Superman and Thor tenfold isnt very much either......they would still be much too fast.....you would have to do A LOT more than tenfold...
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#19  Edited By cattlebattle
@The Stegman said:
@buttersdaman000: How? because Graviton affects ...gravity, Graviton enhances the gravity around them tenfold. if superman and thor are flying at them at full speed, as soon as they hit graviton's field they will fall down
he can manipulate more accutly than that, he could give them opposing pulls causing them to smash into one another, the potential is quite limitless...he is very powerful with that ability
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#20  Edited By buttersdaman000
@cattlebattle
How would he see them coming?
And, gravity control against two insanely strong guys who regularly defy gravity doesnt seem like such a big threat.....
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#21  Edited By the_stegman  Moderator
@buttersdaman000:  
 
i didn't say increase gravity around Thor and Superman, i said increase gravity around his team, that being team two, as soon as thor and supes come at them, they will hit his field and fall down 
 
 
and he's already beaten thor several times 
 
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#22  Edited By buttersdaman000
@The Stegman
Its still the same though. It shouldnt make a difference......and wouldnt his own team feel the effects of the increased gravity?
And that scan doesnt show much....how did he 'beat' Thor?
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#23  Edited By the_stegman  Moderator
@buttersdaman000:  
 
its a world of difference, ok, let me put it this way, superman and thor are coming at his team fast, the team already knows they're coming, graviton creates a field of intense gravity AROUND his team (thus the team is inside of it, and not affected by it) as soon as supes and Thor hit it, they fall down, in the scan he beats thor..by increasing the gravity around him so much that he can't move 
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#24  Edited By buttersdaman000
@The Stegman
Ok fair enough as long as Graviton actually has what it takes to put down Thor with gravity...
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#25  Edited By the_stegman  Moderator
@buttersdaman000: he defeated not only thor, but the entire Avengers with his abilities, i think he has what it takes
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#26  Edited By OmegaDynasty
@The Stegman said:

@buttersdaman000:   its a world of difference, ok, let me put it this way, superman and thor are coming at his team fast, the team already knows they're coming, graviton creates a field of intense gravity AROUND his team (thus the team is inside of it, and not affected by it) as soon as supes and Thor hit it, they fall down, in the scan he beats thor..by increasing the gravity around him so much that he can't move 

True. Although I wonder how it would be with Superman and his speed.  
 
 
 
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

 
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#27  Edited By buttersdaman000

Wait a minute....somebody moving faster than light is no longer affected by gravity....theyre moving to fast for it...Right?
 
Until somebody proves this wrong, im gonna switch back to Thor and Superman

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#28  Edited By the_stegman  Moderator
@OmegaDynasty: doesn't matter how fast he's going, as long as the field is up, it'll stop them, also, there are other combatants too, both Doom and Luthor can create weapons that mimic Graviton's powers, thus amplifying them. 
 
 
@buttersdaman000:  
 
if you bring lightspeed into the equation (which i highly doubt they will use) then Graviton can do the other extreme, he can completely release the gravity around them, making them float uncontrolably, thus taking away inertia and velocity, take away velocity, and speed can't be accomplished. 
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#29  Edited By buttersdaman000
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FTL will most likely be used since therye blood lusted...which brings me back to....
How will they see them coming?
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#30  Edited By the_stegman  Moderator
@buttersdaman000: they don't have to SEE them coming, they know they're coming due to the prep, Graviton's maximum radius for his abilities are 2.5 miles, meaning he can send out gravity (or no gravity) up to that distance, however as i stated above, with both Doom and Luthor using prep, they could amplify his powers to be even greater. so, superman and thor moving at lightspeed, as soon as they come within a couple miles of them, they will either be stopped dead, or have their speed taken away
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#31  Edited By RoyalDivinity

1. Doom and Luthor have no proof of amping Gravitons powers. 
2. If you're moving at at least the speed of light, you're no longer bound by gravity. Thor and Superman have done feats that exceeds the physical laws of humans.  
3. Doom solos with prep if no pis is taken into account.
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#32  Edited By buttersdaman000
@The Stegman
They will be moving FTL, too fast for any of that to even effect them....
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#33  Edited By OmegaDynasty
@PunkMastaFlex said:
1. Doom and Luthor have no proof of amping Gravitons powers. 2. If you're moving at at least the speed of light, you're no longer bound by gravity. Thor and Superman have done feats that exceeds the physical laws of humans.  3. Doom solos with prep if no pis is taken into account.
The third one makes me curious. It has been shown that Doom has taken powers from the likes of Galactus with prep. However, did it ever state how much prep time it took for him to make a device like that? A hour, a day, a month?
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#34  Edited By the_stegman  Moderator
@buttersdaman000: it's not about how fast they're going,but the fundamentals of speed itself. in order to achieve speed, or any kind of motion for that matter, one needs kinetic energy, which is impossible to have if the moving body has no control over it's inertia
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#35  Edited By buttersdaman000
@OmegaDynasty
I dont think Doom can do much with just 1 hour of prep.
Its like as soon as people see prep they think of every way possible the character can get the win, even if said character has never even accomplished something close or is even able to do what the prep includes
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#36  Edited By buttersdaman000
@The Stegman
What Im saying is that (lack of) gravity will not be fast enough to effect two ftl crazies
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#37  Edited By OmegaDynasty
@buttersdaman000 said:
@OmegaDynasty:  I dont think Doom can do much with just 1 hour of prep. Its like as soon as people see prep they think of every way possible the character can get the win, even if said character has never even accomplished something close or is even able to do what the prep includes
Yeah, there is a lot of that.  
Person will say if Batman has a hour  of prep he solos Odin.  
  
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#38  Edited By buttersdaman000
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lol yep
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#39  Edited By the_stegman  Moderator
@buttersdaman000: gravity has no reaction time, it's not a matter of being "fast enough" gravity is one of the four fundamental forces of the universe, one of the others being electromagnetism..which the team also has *cough "Magneto" cough*  as soon as they enter the field, they will be affected, their speed with be neutralized 
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#40  Edited By OmegaDynasty
@The Stegman said:
@buttersdaman000: gravity has no reaction time, it's not a matter of being "fast enough" gravity is one of the four fundamental forces of the universe, one of the others being electromagnetism..which the team also has *cough "Magneto" cough*  as soon as they enter the field, they will be affected, their speed with be neutralized 
Here is a little something I found for Thor.  
 
 
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#41  Edited By buttersdaman000
@The Stegman
Then how do you explain them being able to escape black holes?
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#42  Edited By the_stegman  Moderator
@buttersdaman000:  
 
the difference is a black hole (or at least the ones that are seen being escaped by supes and thor) usually just consist of extreme gravity pulling them toward it, that's not exactly what a black hole is, but i think that's what you mean, however graviton's field spreads AROUND them, as soon as they are enveloped they will lose their speed entirely. 
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#43  Edited By the_stegman  Moderator
@OmegaDynasty: that scan is interesting, do you know if the gravity is affecting thor as well, or just the objects? if it's affecting thor, i would be impressed he fought out of it, however if it's affecting just the objects, then he's just fighting off the metal itself
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#44  Edited By buttersdaman000
@The Stegman
They were inside the Black hole, meaning they were surrounded by the gravity, and escaped it with their speed.
Also, I would like to point out that unless Graviton has powers that exceed a black hole he wont be that effective.
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#45  Edited By OmegaDynasty
@The Stegman said:
@OmegaDynasty: that scan is interesting, do you know if the gravity is affecting thor as well, or just the objects? if it's affecting thor, i would be impressed he fought out of it, however if it's affecting just the objects, then he's just fighting off the metal itself
Judging by the scan, and what it says on the first panel it is affecting Thor. As it said he forced flat on his face, and then everything around him started to pull towards him.
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#46  Edited By the_stegman  Moderator
@buttersdaman000:  
 
he does have powers equal to a black hole, he has abosolute control of gravity 
 
and them escaping means they can beat density, or intense gravity, not that they can maintain speed without inertia 
 
 
this is them escaping a black hole 
 
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this is them running into Graviton's 'anti gravity" powers, losing their speed 
 
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#47  Edited By Comicfan47

I want to give this to team one, but at the same time I want to say team two stomps. I dont know, good fight.

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#48  Edited By slick23

Team 1 Bloodlusted?  We talking about major pain here, they may not cooperate, but as long as they grab someone's face, its game over. Team 1 FTW!

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#49  Edited By termiteone4ever

THor & Supes Got this  

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#50  Edited By YoungGunna

Graviton would be completely ineffective agianst a moral less Superman. He couldnt even react and got completely owned by extremis Iron Man going only at Match 3 speed, what would make anyone think that Graviton could prevent himself from being blitz by a lightspeeder compared to the likes of Superman... I could see Doom and Lex taking this with the given prep but it would be difficult for Team 2 preventing the duo with there nanosecond reacting speed from destroying them before they could even undergo there plans with only two hours of preparation. This could go either way IMO.