Rules:
-Win by death
-Bloodlust on
-No prep
-Post Crisis Superman & Black Adam
-Standard 616 Gladiator & Thor
Fight takes place on Mars:
Who wins and why?
How is Black Adam soloing?
@kingjames447: Do you truly believe Black Adam solo's?
@kingjames447: Do you truly believe Black Adam solo's?
black adam is a team buster and most of his fights are with 2 or more guys but im not saying he solos easy because thor and superman are two big hitters but we are talking about a guy who took on the entire jsa,ripped of captain nazi and amazo heads off,smacked around eclipso who is a spectre villain,hurt spectre,beat up martian manhunter etc. etc.
Black Adam isn't soloing, almost everyone he fought there was either B or A list level Super Heroes. Black Adam was amped by Isis's magic in WW3 and no mention said amp is in the OP. Superman in theory should be able to take Black Adam down himself since he has better speed, strength, durability and skill feats. He's defeated Captain Marvel who's "supposed to be his equal" but has shown time and time again that he is not, having been overpowered physically by Superman on at least 2 occasions. Billy has never beaten Superman in combat and has only ever knocked him out using magically charged punches when Superman wasn't fighting him or even expecting it. Granted, Black Adam is a better fighter than Billy as he is more ruthless and more experienced, but so is Superman who has tanked multiple Shazam lightning strikes and remained conscious, even when he wasn't fighting back and was willing to die. Black Adam will do no better and will not be able to put down Superman who has him beaten in every area physically as far as feats go, if Martian Manhunter is able to melt half of Teth Adam's face off why wouldn't Superman turn him into Freddy Kruger? Anyway...
Gladiator only has striking power feats that put him on a level with Superman and Thor, however, although he remains faster than Thor, he is not faster than Superman who has better feats than him in every category besides striking power. Thor was even able to stalemate Gladiator despite the speed difference, mainly due to the fact that Gladiator rarely EVER uses his speed in combat, which is a major reason why he lost in a slug fest against the Hulk .....
I say Team 1 wins because of the fact that Superman has what it takes to beat Black Adam or Gladiator on his own, Thor could very well hold his own with Gladiator like he's done in the past and there was an argument made before that Thor could turn Black Adam back to a human state with a magical lightning bolt, since a regular lightning bolt changed Shazam back into Billy Baston .... Alternatively, Thor could BFR Gladiator and help Superman with Teth, probably BFR him too ....
Team 1 has more ways to win than Team 2
Superman and Thor would win in the fight of their lives...
Black Adam can give Superman all he can handle... Kallark would tussle with Triple H for a while as well... overall though I think Thor can overcome Kallark and help Superman fight off Black Adam.
@kingjames447: Just about everyone he's fought held back on him, and as said above he was amped by Isis.
@kingjames447: Just about everyone he's fought held back on him, and as said above he was amped by Isis.
holding back on a guy who can shatter planets seems legit next you will be telling mike tysons opponents were holding back too... and adam wasn't amped in ww3 he was just really pissed in that story line and even then gladiator has given thor trouble back in the day so i really don't see team 1 winning
@kingjames447: Just about everyone he's fought held back on him, and as said above he was amped by Isis.
holding back on a guy who can shatter planets seems legit next you will be telling mike tysons opponents were holding back too... and adam wasn't amped in ww3 he was just really pissed in that story line and even then gladiator has given thor trouble back in the day so i really don't see team 1 winning
Superman did it to Black Adam before, and Thor has beaten Gladiator before.
@kingjames447: Just about everyone he's fought held back on him, and as said above he was amped by Isis.
holding back on a guy who can shatter planets seems legit next you will be telling mike tysons opponents were holding back too... and adam wasn't amped in ww3 he was just really pissed in that story line and even then gladiator has given thor trouble back in the day so i really don't see team 1 winning
Superman did it to Black Adam before, and Thor has beaten Gladiator before.
yea but black adam is a team buster and fights superman type guys everyday and yea thor beat gladiator before but not with ease and with a ruthless guy like black adam team 2 wins 8/10 times
Team 1.
Supes speedblitzes Black Adam and Thor ,with his recent feat of shattering multiple planets with his fight with Gorr, should easily kill Gladiator.
Black Adam isn't soloing, almost everyone he fought there was either B or A list level Super Heroes. Black Adam was amped by Isis's magic in WW3 and no mention said amp is in the OP. Superman in theory should be able to take Black Adam down himself since he has better speed, strength, durability and skill feats. He's defeated Captain Marvel who's "supposed to be his equal" but has shown time and time again that he is not, having been overpowered physically by Superman on at least 2 occasions. Billy has never beaten Superman in combat and has only ever knocked him out using magically charged punches when Superman wasn't fighting him or even expecting it. Granted, Black Adam is a better fighter than Billy as he is more ruthless and more experienced, but so is Superman who has tanked multiple Shazam lightning strikes and remained conscious, even when he wasn't fighting back and was willing to die. Black Adam will do no better and will not be able to put down Superman who has him beaten in every area physically as far as feats go, if Martian Manhunter is able to melt half of Teth Adam's face off why wouldn't Superman turn him into Freddy Kruger? Anyway...
Gladiator only has striking power feats that put him on a level with Superman and Thor, however, although he remains faster than Thor, he is not faster than Superman who has better feats than him in every category besides striking power. Thor was even able to stalemate Gladiator despite the speed difference, mainly due to the fact that Gladiator rarely EVER uses his speed in combat, which is a major reason why he lost in a slug fest against the Hulk .....
I say Team 1 wins because of the fact that Superman has what it takes to beat Black Adam or Gladiator on his own, Thor could very well hold his own with Gladiator like he's done in the past and there was an argument made before that Thor could turn Black Adam back to a human state with a magical lightning bolt, since a regular lightning bolt changed Shazam back into Billy Baston .... Alternatively, Thor could BFR Gladiator and help Superman with Teth, probably BFR him too ....
Team 1 has more ways to win than Team 2
@kingjames447: Just about everyone he's fought held back on him, and as said above he was amped by Isis.
Black Adam wasn't amped during WW3, he was just really pissed that his wife was killed. He received the Iris Amp after Billy took his powers away at the end of WW3
Is this the Jobby version of gladiator? Even if it isn't his confidence is gonna drop real fast when he starts this fight. I wanna lean towards team 1 for that reason.
@ancient_0f_days: was going to argue for team two but you.....
@ancient_0f_days: was going to argue for team two but you.....
all in a days work.
thor or superman solos ok naaah just a joke jeje, but team SuperThor wins , superman is epic overpowered, and thor is epic powerful, yes adam too and he is a warrior like thor, but thor have better combat skills (have eons of advantege vs blackadam) also thor have mjolnir, and are equal in fisic skills, but thor have more powers, gladiator is epic powerful too, but i dont see him defeating superman (i hate him) maybe a draw... so thats it
thor vs adam= thor.
superman vs gladiator= draw or superman.
thor vs gladiator= thor.
adam vs superman= draw or adam.
Black Adam isn't soloing, almost everyone he fought there was either B or A list level Super Heroes. Black Adam was amped by Isis's magic in WW3 and no mention said amp is in the OP. Superman in theory should be able to take Black Adam down himself since he has better speed, strength, durability and skill feats. He's defeated Captain Marvel who's "supposed to be his equal" but has shown time and time again that he is not, having been overpowered physically by Superman on at least 2 occasions. Billy has never beaten Superman in combat and has only ever knocked him out using magically charged punches when Superman wasn't fighting him or even expecting it. Granted, Black Adam is a better fighter than Billy as he is more ruthless and more experienced, but so is Superman who has tanked multiple Shazam lightning strikes and remained conscious, even when he wasn't fighting back and was willing to die. Black Adam will do no better and will not be able to put down Superman who has him beaten in every area physically as far as feats go, if Martian Manhunter is able to melt half of Teth Adam's face off why wouldn't Superman turn him into Freddy Kruger? Anyway...
Gladiator only has striking power feats that put him on a level with Superman and Thor, however, although he remains faster than Thor, he is not faster than Superman who has better feats than him in every category besides striking power. Thor was even able to stalemate Gladiator despite the speed difference, mainly due to the fact that Gladiator rarely EVER uses his speed in combat, which is a major reason why he lost in a slug fest against the Hulk .....
I say Team 1 wins because of the fact that Superman has what it takes to beat Black Adam or Gladiator on his own, Thor could very well hold his own with Gladiator like he's done in the past and there was an argument made before that Thor could turn Black Adam back to a human state with a magical lightning bolt, since a regular lightning bolt changed Shazam back into Billy Baston .... Alternatively, Thor could BFR Gladiator and help Superman with Teth, probably BFR him too ....
Team 1 has more ways to win than Team 2
Yep this sums it up nicely. Bravo my friend, bravo.
Black Adam isn't soloing, almost everyone he fought there was either B or A list level Super Heroes. Black Adam was amped by Isis's magic in WW3 and no mention said amp is in the OP. Superman in theory should be able to take Black Adam down himself since he has better speed, strength, durability and skill feats. He's defeated Captain Marvel who's "supposed to be his equal" but has shown time and time again that he is not, having been overpowered physically by Superman on at least 2 occasions. Billy has never beaten Superman in combat and has only ever knocked him out using magically charged punches when Superman wasn't fighting him or even expecting it. Granted, Black Adam is a better fighter than Billy as he is more ruthless and more experienced, but so is Superman who has tanked multiple Shazam lightning strikes and remained conscious, even when he wasn't fighting back and was willing to die. Black Adam will do no better and will not be able to put down Superman who has him beaten in every area physically as far as feats go, if Martian Manhunter is able to melt half of Teth Adam's face off why wouldn't Superman turn him into Freddy Kruger? Anyway...
Gladiator only has striking power feats that put him on a level with Superman and Thor, however, although he remains faster than Thor, he is not faster than Superman who has better feats than him in every category besides striking power. Thor was even able to stalemate Gladiator despite the speed difference, mainly due to the fact that Gladiator rarely EVER uses his speed in combat, which is a major reason why he lost in a slug fest against the Hulk .....
I say Team 1 wins because of the fact that Superman has what it takes to beat Black Adam or Gladiator on his own, Thor could very well hold his own with Gladiator like he's done in the past and there was an argument made before that Thor could turn Black Adam back to a human state with a magical lightning bolt, since a regular lightning bolt changed Shazam back into Billy Baston .... Alternatively, Thor could BFR Gladiator and help Superman with Teth, probably BFR him too ....
Team 1 has more ways to win than Team 2
Yep this sums it up nicely. Bravo my friend, bravo.
@dondave: @lvenger: Thank you.
The OP states win via dearh so bfr option is out of the picture for Thor...I don't know why that was brought up...iirc pissed off Kallark has one shotted Thor in the past via blitz and Thor was saved by Thor Girl...
Post Kallark blitzing and one shotting Thor.
@ancient_0f_days: I don't have the scan myself...it has happened the past for sure as a matter of fact...I've seen the scan on the vine couple of yrs ago tbh...hopefully someone will post them...
@capall2: whenever I say someone in a comic did something, I usually make sure I have them myself just in case I actually feel like proving a point. I'll look for them myself.
@takuu: supes destroys black adam in the dcu trailer
@takuu: supes destroys black adam in the dcu trailer
Not canon, means nothing....next
@ancient_0f_days: hopefully someone will post them...
Found them...
He distracted Thor with debris...but it is noted that Gladiator did blitz and one shot him .... until the next time they fought were Thor admitted to holding back and beat him .....
They've stalemated in the past.....but then again, Thor never tried to BFR Gladiator, with Superman's help, that is entirely possible. Black Adam can only be so useful when he is outclassed by Superman in speed and can possibly be turned into a human with a casual bolt of lightning.
Bloodlusted Thor = Warrior Madness. Superman bloodlusted = Superman w/o morals. Gladiator is a ripoff Supes and would be the first to die no doubt. Black Adam would be a threat to Supes but I see Thor and Superman coming on top in this one.
@ancient_0f_days: good job finding the scan...I'm too busy and lazy to look for scans as it isn't a priority in my life...this is purely for entertainment purpose while I have the time during my work break...anywho how you post and put up scan is up to you as you may have the luxury and the time to do so...I also wish I had time to do so...lmao...back in topic, Kallark does have speed advantage over Thor just as Supes has speed advantage over Black Adam...so all in equal footings this is a closer battle than most people tend to think...Kallark is pretty much Supes equal in Marvel and I would have Kallark over Thor just the same as Supes over Thor...
@ancient_0f_days: good job finding the scan...I'm too busy and lazy to look for scans as it isn't a priority in my life...this is purely for entertainment purpose while I have the time during my work break...anywho how you post and put up scan is up to you as you may have the luxury and the time to do so...I also wish I had time to do so...lmao...
It's not about time, it's about knowing when you actually are going to prove your point. At that time you had nothing to prove, so it wouldn't be wise to say something is so in the future without immediate proof. It took me less than 5 minutes to find that scan, took me 5 more to find the others. Time has nothing to do with it.
@ancient_0f_days: back in topic, Kallark does have speed advantage over Thor just as Supes has speed advantage over Black Adam...so all in equal footings this is a closer battle than most people tend to think...Kallark is pretty much Supes equal in Marvel and I would have Kallark over Thor just the same as Supes over Thor...
Kallark's speed advantage helped him once...and that was with a distraction, you can't prove that Kallark is on the same level as Clark cus they aren't equals....if they were, Hulk wouldn't have been able to keep up with Kallark at all and Thor wouldn't have beaten him the second time when he tried....even Gladiator admits that Thor was too strong....love how you ignored that....
@takuu: supes destroys black adam in the dcu trailer
Not canon, means nothing....next
@ancient_0f_days: hopefully someone will post them...
Found them...
He distracted Thor with debris...but it is noted that Gladiator did blitz and one shot him .... until the next time they fought were Thor admitted to holding back and beat him .....
They've stalemated in the past.....but then again, Thor never tried to BFR Gladiator, with Superman's help, that is entirely possible. Black Adam can only be so useful when he is outclassed by Superman in speed and can possibly be turned into a human with a casual bolt of lightning.
Thor was just reverted back to his mortal form due to the 60 second rule(no KO). Thor wasn't blitzed since he has hit the ''house'' twice before gladiator surprised him, if there were no distraction and gladiator just tried to fly in front of him he would have been hammered twice or at least one before hitting Thor. Gladiator even says that Thor is too strong!!!
@themadsurfer: It doesn't seem like you understood a thing I was trying to get across, instead of fanboying for Thor why not take the time to read what I type
I think Gladiator can defeat Thor even thou when they have fought Glad's some what got written stupidly like standing still than being hit by living lighting or whatever attack it was .... Black Adam vs superman is harder to call but whoever wins out of Gladiator vs Thor can massive turn the tide for their team .
One of the best and closest match-ups I've seen on the Vine. This is truly too close to call. If I had to give a winner? Team 2... BARELY
Gladiator can occupied Thor while Black Adam beat Superman. Black Adam then proceed to beat Thor.
I mean, Adam fought Superman AND Cap Marvel at the same time. Black Adam is magic and that's Superman weakness.
@ancient_0f_days: First calm down. Second I'm sorry and I pretty much agree with you, I was just trying to say that Thor wasn't one-shotted neither blitzed.
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