#1 Edited by WillPayton (9186 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman (pre-52, sundipped 1 hour)

vs

Avengers: Hulk, Iron Man (Bleeding Edge), Ms Marvel, Sentry, Thor

Both teams arrive on Earth after a space mission only to find the Earth destroyed. Each sees the other and thinks they are responsible. Start 1km apart on Earth, no knowledge, no BFR. Each side gets 30 seconds as they approach each other before the fight begins.

#2 Edited by never give up (9496 posts) - - Show Bio
#3 Posted by ImTheDamnBatman (3548 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman, easily.

#4 Posted by dondave (34616 posts) - - Show Bio

Probably Superman, if sentry doesn't use telepathy or matter manipulation

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#5 Posted by comicace3 (3469 posts) - - Show Bio

Supes...

#6 Posted by CalebHara (2329 posts) - - Show Bio

Isnt one hour of Superman sundipping the equivalent to him being like.. 12 times more powerful? If that is the case, Superman easy

#7 Posted by WillPayton (9186 posts) - - Show Bio

@CalebHara said:

Isnt one hour of Superman sundipping the equivalent to him being like.. 12 times more powerful? If that is the case, Superman easy

Are there scans showing how powerful Superman is after 1 hour sundip? Also, what does it mean to be more "powerful"? More strength, more durability, more speed?

#8 Posted by CalebHara (2329 posts) - - Show Bio

@WillPayton: i remember someone bringing u p a scan against me w hile ago, i think it was something like 6 times as powerful after half an hour, but I'm not 100% sure. Ad that was for basically all of his powers, and all of his abilities and attributes. If you look at Superman Prime One Million, he gains a vast variety of powers from sundipping such as reality warping and creation abilities. But that was for 15,000 years, so im not sure about what an hour would do for that.

#9 Edited by Dextersinister (5796 posts) - - Show Bio

@WillPayton said:

@CalebHara said:

Isnt one hour of Superman sundipping the equivalent to him being like.. 12 times more powerful? If that is the case, Superman easy

Are there scans showing how powerful Superman is after 1 hour sundip? Also, what does it mean to be more "powerful"? More strength, more durability, more speed?

All of the above, an enhancement on everything a Kryptonian has over a normal man. There's no reason a sundip would be selective on what it enhances seeing as it's simply a boost of his existing powers.

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#10 Posted by Ms. Omega (4404 posts) - - Show Bio

Poor Avengers......

#11 Posted by WillPayton (9186 posts) - - Show Bio

@Dextersinister said:

@WillPayton said:

@CalebHara said:

Isnt one hour of Superman sundipping the equivalent to him being like.. 12 times more powerful? If that is the case, Superman easy

Are there scans showing how powerful Superman is after 1 hour sundip? Also, what does it mean to be more "powerful"? More strength, more durability, more speed?

All of the above, an enhancement on everything a Kryptonian has over a normal man. There's no reason a sundip would be selective on what it enhances seeing as it's simply a boost of his existing powers.

Some things like intelligence might not be boosted at all, or some things might be boosted at different rates. For example, his strength might be doubled, but his speed might only slightly increase, or his reaction time might stay the same. It's just speculation without scans or something to show what would actually happen.

#12 Posted by Esquire (3833 posts) - - Show Bio

@CalebHara: @WillPayton:

Superman has rarely sundipped in continuity. He sundipped for an undisclosed amount of time in Our Worlds at War, it seemed to be somewhere around half an hour, and he was able to move Warworld by himself. This was far beyond his earlier powers, and I've heard 3x as powerful thrown around. I've never seen anything on-panel to indicate any precise measurement, though. He sundipped another time, (I'm having trouble remembering the arc), and he was able to take it to Darkseid without much trouble. In DC 1,000,000 he sundipped for something like 15 centuries and came out essentially omnipotent. As far as I know, these are the only canon times he's sundipped.

#13 Posted by ImTheDamnBatman (3548 posts) - - Show Bio

...Why make the thread if you have no idea what a sun dipped Superman is capable of then?

#14 Edited by dondave (34616 posts) - - Show Bio

@Esquire: he didn't actually sun-dipped when he fough darkseid in Superman/Batman:Supergirl, he just flew at FTL speeds to the Sun and then to the Source Wall

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#15 Posted by WaveMotionCannon (5187 posts) - - Show Bio

Sundip= overkill

#16 Posted by Strider92 (16149 posts) - - Show Bio

Sun-dipping Superman is like throwing a brink in a washing machine. Depressingly hilarious:

#17 Posted by CalebHara (2329 posts) - - Show Bio

@Esquire: Lol thanks, i new that both of those happened, i just don't know to what extent his powers increased. You've heard 3, ive heard 6. Im not sure, but i think there is a scan that specifies that.

#18 Posted by Dextersinister (5796 posts) - - Show Bio

@WillPayton said:

@Dextersinister said:

@WillPayton said:

@CalebHara said:

Isnt one hour of Superman sundipping the equivalent to him being like.. 12 times more powerful? If that is the case, Superman easy

Are there scans showing how powerful Superman is after 1 hour sundip? Also, what does it mean to be more "powerful"? More strength, more durability, more speed?

All of the above, an enhancement on everything a Kryptonian has over a normal man. There's no reason a sundip would be selective on what it enhances seeing as it's simply a boost of his existing powers.

Some things like intelligence might not be boosted at all, or some things might be boosted at different rates. For example, his strength might be doubled, but his speed might only slightly increase, or his reaction time might stay the same. It's just speculation without scans or something to show what would actually happen.

In this case I would say it's safe to say that he would gain a proportional increase in all his Krpytonian powers as if he had gained them naturally, a writer is not going to overcomplicate the issue by dishing out different percentages to speed and strength. Not entirely sure but I don't believe his intelligence has been tied to his powers since the Silver Age, he may be able to think faster which always helps.

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#19 Posted by evilvegeta74 (4521 posts) - - Show Bio

wouldn't matter since Superman fans consider him a god anyway, this is the end result! :

#20 Posted by WillPayton (9186 posts) - - Show Bio

@ImTheDamnBatman said:

...Why make the thread if you have no idea what a sun dipped Superman is capable of then?

I know he's more powerful than normal Superman. What else do I need to know to make a thread?

#21 Posted by Esquire (3833 posts) - - Show Bio

@dondave: Wait, was this Superman/Batman?

@CalebHara: In All-Star Superman, Clark sundips and his powers are tripled. It's non-canon, but maybe that's what one of us has seen?

#22 Posted by CalebHara (2329 posts) - - Show Bio

@Esquire: perhaps, ill have to dig to find it, but I'm sure i saw it somewhere, ill let you know if i do find it.

#23 Posted by dondave (34616 posts) - - Show Bio

@Esquire: Yeah

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#24 Posted by Esquire (3833 posts) - - Show Bio

@dondave: Wow, it's been way too long since I've read that. Thanks for clearing that up!

#25 Posted by dondave (34616 posts) - - Show Bio

@Esquire: Iit's Alright

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#26 Posted by iHailCarlo (94 posts) - - Show Bio

There will be no more Avengers! Superman would destroy them especially sun dipped!

#27 Posted by eatmore_payless (2210 posts) - - Show Bio

@Esquire said:

@dondave: Wait, was this Superman/Batman?

@CalebHara: In All-Star Superman, Clark sundips and his powers are tripled. It's non-canon, but maybe that's what one of us has seen?

superman/batman apokolypse. this is the scene where he tackled darkseid from the kent farm all the way to sun, then he owns him there saying things about what kara won't have if she dies, and etc. then supreman flew at a FTL speed to warp himself at the place where universe ends (i can;t remember the place's name)

#28 Posted by jwalser3 (4798 posts) - - Show Bio

@Ms. Omega said:

Poor Avengers......

#29 Posted by dondave (34616 posts) - - Show Bio

@eatmore_payless: The Source Wall

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#30 Posted by eatmore_payless (2210 posts) - - Show Bio

@dondave: thanks buddy ;)

#31 Posted by SlimJ87D (9352 posts) - - Show Bio
#32 Posted by dondave (34616 posts) - - Show Bio

@eatmore_payless: It's Alright

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#33 Posted by TDK_1997 (14471 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman is going to win this.

#34 Posted by ComicStooge (12050 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman has this.

#35 Posted by Dark_Vengeance_ (14587 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman wins in a good battle imo.

#36 Posted by Squalleon (4170 posts) - - Show Bio

@eatmore_payless said:

@Esquire said:

@dondave: Wait, was this Superman/Batman?

@CalebHara: In All-Star Superman, Clark sundips and his powers are tripled. It's non-canon, but maybe that's what one of us has seen?

superman/batman apokolypse. this is the scene where he tackled darkseid from the kent farm all the way to sun, then he owns him there saying things about what kara won't have if she dies, and etc. then supreman flew at a FTL speed to warp himself at the place where universe ends (i can;t remember the place's name)

He had a mother box actually he teleported!Just to be clear that superman cant travel so fast

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#37 Edited by boostergold321 (301 posts) - - Show Bio

People make the argument that a sundipped Superman beats everyone including God just like they say Batman can beat anyone with prep-time because he's just so much smarter than everyone. Its all a bunch a bologna!

Superman is not stronger than Hercules. Thor and Hulk are on par with Hercules and have done feats equal or greater than Superman. A sundipped Superman won't make a bit of difference against the power of Asgard(Thor) and a limitless force of nature(Hulk). You want Superman at his best? How about Superman versus Hulk OR Thor at their best? Not Both. Just one or the other because both would be overkill. Superman is a dead man against only the two of the avengers, going one at time in one on one match-ups, and even moreso against the entire Avengers team.

Superman goes down faster than the Iraqi army.

#38 Edited by TheTmac (472 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman easily.

Normal Supes could probably beat them if you kicked Thor off the team.

#39 Posted by WillPayton (9186 posts) - - Show Bio

I would not have thought that a mere 1 hour sundip would make Superman so powerful to "easily" defeat this team. I'm very surprised.

#40 Posted by MonsterStomp (16145 posts) - - Show Bio

@evilvegeta74 said:

wouldn't matter since Superman fans consider him a god anyway, this is the end result! :

Except Superman will be throwing Hulk and Thor around like that at the same time. Oooooooooooooo :O burn.

#41 Edited by deaditegonzo (3683 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman moves so fast, the Avengers are just statues (if a person has lightspeed perception, a second becomes a lifetime), he then proceeds to perform tracheotomies with his fists in each one of their necks.

This thread should be altered to the most exciting ways Superman can kill the entire Avengers team.

@TheTmac said:

Superman easily.

Normal Supes could probably beat them if you kicked Thor off the team.

Seriously.

Editted to say: Sentry's presences actually makes the "Normal" Supes thing more questionable as well, to be fair.

#42 Posted by matmatxm8 (587 posts) - - Show Bio

@MonsterStomp said:

@evilvegeta74 said:

wouldn't matter since Superman fans consider him a god anyway, this is the end result! :

Except Superman will be throwing Hulk and Thor around like that at the same time. Oooooooooooooo :O burn.

Apply cold water to the "Sundipped burned area"

Did you get the joke?

LOL

#43 Posted by MonsterStomp (16145 posts) - - Show Bio

@matmatxm8: Its funny 'cos its true.

#44 Posted by JamesKM716 (1992 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman wins.

#45 Posted by Nightflash (713 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman wins easily

a blue sun aka dwarf star doubles the affect of a yellow sun and half n hour of dipping in yellow triples superman power I beleive so a blue sun would increase his power 12 times. Putting supermans strength at 200 quintillion tons, tying his previous record. All other powers have increases effect to.

#46 Posted by jobbernos (1420 posts) - - Show Bio

@ImTheDamnBatman said:

Superman, easily.