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#1 Edited by jeanroygrant (20191 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman ( Sun Dipped vs Team!

VS

Rules

Superman has been sun Dipped for 24 hrs.

No BFR

Fight to Death or KO

Fight takes place on DC Earth

No outside help

No prep

Team

  • Blue Marvel
  • World Breaker Hulk
  • Red Hulk ( Admantinum Axe )
  • Red She Hulk ( World Breaker level )
  • Namor ( Just came out of ocean )
  • Hercules ( Lion Skin/Admantinum Mace )
  • A-Bomb ( Admantinum Hammer )
  • Worthy Thing ( Worthy Hammer )
  • Ares ( Admantium Sword )
  • Skaar ( Old Power )
  • Sentry ( No Void )
  • Abomination ( Admantinum Mace )

  • Who Wins, Explain why!!!

#2 Posted by cattlebattle (12779 posts) - - Show Bio

I think Supes gets a butt whoopin'

#3 Posted by prinplup45 (201 posts) - - Show Bio

i think team gets the win by alot

#4 Posted by Daredevil1495 (4 posts) - - Show Bio
@cattlebattle said:

I think Supes gets a butt whoopin'

^This

#5 Posted by karetaker (1565 posts) - - Show Bio

@jeanroygrant: supes gets hes face molested by a dozen fists

#6 Posted by cattlebattle (12779 posts) - - Show Bio
@jeanroygrant said:

@cattlebattle said:

I think Supes gets a butt whoopin'

Explain why.

Too many really strong opponents, Superman has the speed advantage but eventually he will get overwhelmed
#7 Edited by prinplup45 (201 posts) - - Show Bio

the battle is not even

#8 Posted by jeanroygrant (20191 posts) - - Show Bio

@cattlebattle said:

@jeanroygrant said:

@cattlebattle said:

I think Supes gets a butt whoopin'

Explain why.

Too many really strong opponents, Superman has the speed advantage but eventually he will get overwhelmed

Even with 24hrs Sundipped??

#9 Edited by _Zombie_ (10443 posts) - - Show Bio

@jeanroygrant said:

@cattlebattle said:

I think Supes gets a butt whoopin'

Explain why.

Last time I checked, sun-dipped Supes isn't a freaking god. He'll be powerful, but he's too outnumbered.

#10 Posted by The Man of Yesteryear (5502 posts) - - Show Bio

He can win if he's smart about it (staying in the air and picking off the grounded foes one by one after taking out Blue Marvel and Sentry).

#11 Posted by jeanroygrant (20191 posts) - - Show Bio

@ZombieBigfoot said:

@jeanroygrant said:

@cattlebattle said:

I think Supes gets a butt whoopin'

Explain why.

Last time I checked, sun-dipped Supes isn't a freaking god. He'll be powerful, but he's too outnumbered.

I thought he would just like bust the planet....

#12 Posted by tensor (4352 posts) - - Show Bio

he clears it

#13 Posted by jeanroygrant (20191 posts) - - Show Bio

@tensor said:

he clears it

Why.

#14 Posted by _Black (2302 posts) - - Show Bio

@The Man of Yesteryear said:

He can win if he's smart about it (staying in the air and picking off the grounded foes one by one after taking out Blue Marvel and Sentry).

I agree.

#15 Posted by steelhound56 (1074 posts) - - Show Bio

If PIS/CIS isnt involved.... Supes takes a good ol' fashioned buttwhoopin...

#16 Posted by Immortal777 (7588 posts) - - Show Bio

He could win if he plays his cards right divide and conquer

#17 Edited by Spiderslike (652 posts) - - Show Bio

Ok I'll try and give a more detailed reason as to why Superman loses so bad. First off Hulk is the Hulk going along with the common standard Hulk just keeps getting stronger and stronger with rage. Yes Superman is very strong and definitely a good candidate to beat Hulk but he will always be challenged by his growing strength and powerful healing factor. Next Red Hulk Red Hulk's base strength is greater than Hulk's base strength under normal conditions so he's definitely another good match for Superman second Red Hulk is able to absorb other forms of energy to make himself stronger he could absorb all the solar energy from Superman making him all but powerless if he chose to. Red She-Hulk same situation as Red Hulk and also because she uses a magical weapon she brings a problem for Superman as he's weak against magic. Next Namor not too likely to do much damage to Superman even if he is fresh out the water but his strength is still enough to atleast hurt him. Strength wise Herc and Superman are fairly equal based off of strength feats and giving weapons still make this a pretty good chance Herc wins. Worthy Thing was more powerful than Red Hulk and also brought magic to the table adding to making likely to beat Superman. Even without Void Sentry fought WWH to a stand still and his speed is atleast equal to Supermans taking away the one real advantage that he had in that he was incredibly faster than everyone. Not only that but Sentry is a molecular manipulator and although not experienced is able to change things on the molecular level and used enough raw power to beat a highly skilled reality warper. Skaar ,Blue Marvel, Abomination, Abomb and Ares are just over kill. Simply point even sun amped its just too much raw strength and too much magic not too mention many of the characters are combat experts of great level and very tactically aware.

#18 Posted by karetaker (1565 posts) - - Show Bio

@Spiderslike said:

Ok I'll try and give a more detailed reason as to why Superman loses so bad. First off Hulk is the Hulk going along with the common standard Hulk just keeps getting stronger and stronger with rage. Yes Superman is very strong and definitely a good candidate to beat Hulk but he will always be challenged by his growing strength and powerful healing factor. Next Red Hulk Red Hulk's base strength is greater than Hulk's base strength under normal conditions so he's definitely another good match for Superman second Red Hulk is able to absorb other forms of energy to make himself stronger he could absorb all the solar energy from Superman making him all but powerless if he chose to. Red She-Hulk same situation as Red Hulk and also because she uses a magical weapon she brings a problem for Superman as he's weak against magic. Next Namor not too likely to do much damage to Superman even if he is fresh out the water but his strength is still enough to atleast hurt him. Strength wise Herc and Superman are fairly equal based off of strength feats and giving weapons still make this a pretty good chance Herc wins. Worthy Thing was more powerful than Red Hulk and also brought magic to the table adding to making likely to beat Superman. Even without Void Sentry fought WWH to a stand still and his speed is atleast equal to Supermans taking away the one real advantage that he had in that he was incredibly faster than everyone. Not only that but Sentry is a molecular manipulator and although not experienced is able to change things on the molecular level and used enough raw power to beat a highly skilled reality warper. Skaar ,Blue Marvel, Abomination, Abomb and Ares are just over kill. Simply point even sun amped its just too much raw strength and too much magic not too mention many of the characters are combat experts of great level and very tactically aware.

QFT

#19 Posted by jeanroygrant (20191 posts) - - Show Bio

@karetaker said:

@Spiderslike said:

Ok I'll try and give a more detailed reason as to why Superman loses so bad. First off Hulk is the Hulk going along with the common standard Hulk just keeps getting stronger and stronger with rage. Yes Superman is very strong and definitely a good candidate to beat Hulk but he will always be challenged by his growing strength and powerful healing factor. Next Red Hulk Red Hulk's base strength is greater than Hulk's base strength under normal conditions so he's definitely another good match for Superman second Red Hulk is able to absorb other forms of energy to make himself stronger he could absorb all the solar energy from Superman making him all but powerless if he chose to. Red She-Hulk same situation as Red Hulk and also because she uses a magical weapon she brings a problem for Superman as he's weak against magic. Next Namor not too likely to do much damage to Superman even if he is fresh out the water but his strength is still enough to atleast hurt him. Strength wise Herc and Superman are fairly equal based off of strength feats and giving weapons still make this a pretty good chance Herc wins. Worthy Thing was more powerful than Red Hulk and also brought magic to the table adding to making likely to beat Superman. Even without Void Sentry fought WWH to a stand still and his speed is atleast equal to Supermans taking away the one real advantage that he had in that he was incredibly faster than everyone. Not only that but Sentry is a molecular manipulator and although not experienced is able to change things on the molecular level and used enough raw power to beat a highly skilled reality warper. Skaar ,Blue Marvel, Abomination, Abomb and Ares are just over kill. Simply point even sun amped its just too much raw strength and too much magic not too mention many of the characters are combat experts of great level and very tactically aware.

QFT

What is QFT ?

#20 Posted by karetaker (1565 posts) - - Show Bio

@jeanroygrant: quoted for truth. (new guy just taught the guys with 4k posts something. swaggggg)

#21 Posted by jeanroygrant (20191 posts) - - Show Bio

@karetaker said:

@jeanroygrant: quoted for truth. (new guy just taught the guys with 4k posts something. swaggggg)

LOOOL

#22 Posted by RyuHayabusa (2019 posts) - - Show Bio

sundipped for 24 hours?

Supes got this. Many would argue superman can beat blue marvel or sentry 1vs1. Here you have sundipped supes who is probably gonna one -shot most of them.

#23 Posted by silverman201 (261 posts) - - Show Bio

A 24 sun dipped Superman could win if he destroys the planet on first attack scattering them then quickly picks off the dazed survivers and the majority of the second team cant even operate properly in space. Though if were making a match where he's going to stay still and try tanking everything they throw at him for a while than he loses.

#24 Posted by Sherlock (7258 posts) - - Show Bio

The only threats here are Blue Marvel and Sentry.Sundipped Clark can beat them and the rest go down easy

#25 Posted by Lady_Liberty (8281 posts) - - Show Bio

Even without sun dipping Superman would probably win. Sun dipped for twenty four hours and he obliterates this unfortunate team.

#26 Posted by jeanroygrant (20191 posts) - - Show Bio

@Lady_Liberty said:

Even without sun dipping Superman would probably win. Sun dipped for twenty four hours and he obliterates this unfortunate team.

Without Sun Dipping Superman would get slaughtered easy.

#27 Posted by HolySerpent (12546 posts) - - Show Bio

Supes win ...

#28 Posted by SPM1M (804 posts) - - Show Bio

@jeanroygrant: Superman clears it with ease everyone seems to really i mean really underestimate the sun dip in OWAW he dipped only for fifteen minutes FIFTEEN and it more than tripled his power (STRENGTH,SPEED,etc) with 24 ours it doesnt matter how many of these class opponents none of these guys would be able to hurt(Assuming they can touch him since his speed increases too) he has so many ways to destroy this team he could one shot them all or planet bust its that simple ppl were right this is spite but in supermans favor

#29 Posted by jeanroygrant (20191 posts) - - Show Bio

@SPM1M said:

@jeanroygrant: Superman clears it with ease everyone seems to really i mean really underestimate the sun dip in OWAW he dipped only for fifteen minutes FIFTEEN and it more than tripled his power (STRENGTH,SPEED,etc) with 24 ours it doesnt matter how many of these class opponents none of these guys would be able to hurt(Assuming they can touch him since his speed increases too) he has so many ways to destroy this team he could one shot them all or planet bust its that simple ppl were right this is spite but in supermans favor

I see.

#30 Posted by Bo88gdan (4405 posts) - - Show Bio

Team stopms

#31 Posted by Greendevil (2042 posts) - - Show Bio

@karetaker said:

@jeanroygrant: quoted for truth. (new guy just taught the guys with 4k posts something. swaggggg)

lmao.........new guy taught me 2

i always thought it was Quit fu#king trolling hahahha

#32 Posted by BigCimmerian (8315 posts) - - Show Bio

Team wins easily

#33 Posted by Killemall (18582 posts) - - Show Bio

The only real trouble is Sentry and Blue Marvel but Sun Dip Superman might be able to win them together, after than no one else is fast enough to even touch Supes as long as he is using his powers properly.

#34 Posted by Saren (25681 posts) - - Show Bio

There aren't enough facepalms in the world for whoever said Sentry would win by molecule manipulation.

Superman.

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#35 Edited by RyuHayabusa (2019 posts) - - Show Bio

@jeanroygrant said:

@Lady_Liberty said:

Even without sun dipping Superman would probably win. Sun dipped for twenty four hours and he obliterates this unfortunate team.

Without Sun Dipping Superman would get slaughtered easy.

And who exactly is going to slaughter superman?

#36 Posted by ssejllenrad (12847 posts) - - Show Bio

Damn! This Superman fanboy is at a loss here. How do we compute sundipping powers based on time dipped? How long was he sundipped back in OWAW?

#37 Posted by Saren (25681 posts) - - Show Bio

@ssejllenrad said:

Damn! This Superman fanboy is at a loss here. How do we compute sundipping powers based on time dipped? How long was he sundipped back in OWAW?

About 15 minutes I believe, and that boosted his strength to the point where he could move Warworld through space. And now the OP is giving him 96 times that sundip.

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#38 Posted by WaveMotionCannon (5422 posts) - - Show Bio
@karetaker

@Spiderslike said:

Ok I'll try and give a more detailed reason as to why Superman loses so bad. First off Hulk is the Hulk going along with the common standard Hulk just keeps getting stronger and stronger with rage. Yes Superman is very strong and definitely a good candidate to beat Hulk but he will always be challenged by his growing strength and powerful healing factor. Next Red Hulk Red Hulk's base strength is greater than Hulk's base strength under normal conditions so he's definitely another good match for Superman second Red Hulk is able to absorb other forms of energy to make himself stronger he could absorb all the solar energy from Superman making him all but powerless if he chose to. Red She-Hulk same situation as Red Hulk and also because she uses a magical weapon she brings a problem for Superman as he's weak against magic. Next Namor not too likely to do much damage to Superman even if he is fresh out the water but his strength is still enough to atleast hurt him. Strength wise Herc and Superman are fairly equal based off of strength feats and giving weapons still make this a pretty good chance Herc wins. Worthy Thing was more powerful than Red Hulk and also brought magic to the table adding to making likely to beat Superman. Even without Void Sentry fought WWH to a stand still and his speed is atleast equal to Supermans taking away the one real advantage that he had in that he was incredibly faster than everyone. Not only that but Sentry is a molecular manipulator and although not experienced is able to change things on the molecular level and used enough raw power to beat a highly skilled reality warper. Skaar ,Blue Marvel, Abomination, Abomb and Ares are just over kill. Simply point even sun amped its just too much raw strength and too much magic not too mention many of the characters are combat experts of great level and very tactically aware.

QFT

QFT 2x
#39 Posted by Saren (25681 posts) - - Show Bio

@WaveMotionCannon said:

@karetaker

@Spiderslike said:

Ok I'll try and give a more detailed reason as to why Superman loses so bad. First off Hulk is the Hulk going along with the common standard Hulk just keeps getting stronger and stronger with rage. Yes Superman is very strong and definitely a good candidate to beat Hulk but he will always be challenged by his growing strength and powerful healing factor. Next Red Hulk Red Hulk's base strength is greater than Hulk's base strength under normal conditions so he's definitely another good match for Superman second Red Hulk is able to absorb other forms of energy to make himself stronger he could absorb all the solar energy from Superman making him all but powerless if he chose to. Red She-Hulk same situation as Red Hulk and also because she uses a magical weapon she brings a problem for Superman as he's weak against magic. Next Namor not too likely to do much damage to Superman even if he is fresh out the water but his strength is still enough to atleast hurt him. Strength wise Herc and Superman are fairly equal based off of strength feats and giving weapons still make this a pretty good chance Herc wins. Worthy Thing was more powerful than Red Hulk and also brought magic to the table adding to making likely to beat Superman. Even without Void Sentry fought WWH to a stand still and his speed is atleast equal to Supermans taking away the one real advantage that he had in that he was incredibly faster than everyone. Not only that but Sentry is a molecular manipulator and although not experienced is able to change things on the molecular level and used enough raw power to beat a highly skilled reality warper. Skaar ,Blue Marvel, Abomination, Abomb and Ares are just over kill. Simply point even sun amped its just too much raw strength and too much magic not too mention many of the characters are combat experts of great level and very tactically aware.

QFT

QFT 2x

I have to wonder why everyone keeps quoting this. No one here is remotely as strong as a Superman with 15 minutes of sundipping (when he moved Warworld through space), what makes you think anyone here would be remotely close to him when he has 96x the time to sundip? And he's already vastly faster than anyone on that team without the sundip.

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#40 Posted by Harddrivexxii (514 posts) - - Show Bio

Quick question does Sentry get ramped up by solar radiation and could Red Hulk absorb the energy from Supes?

#41 Posted by Saren (25681 posts) - - Show Bio

@Harddrivexxii said:

Quick question does Sentry get ramped up by solar radiation and could Red Hulk absorb the energy from Supes?

No. Rulk could, but only if he gets his hands on Supes and drains his energy before getting torn in half, which isn't likely to happen.

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#42 Posted by ssejllenrad (12847 posts) - - Show Bio

@CitizenBane said:

@WaveMotionCannon said:

@karetaker

@Spiderslike said:

Ok I'll try and give a more detailed reason as to why Superman loses so bad. First off Hulk is the Hulk going along with the common standard Hulk just keeps getting stronger and stronger with rage. Yes Superman is very strong and definitely a good candidate to beat Hulk but he will always be challenged by his growing strength and powerful healing factor. Next Red Hulk Red Hulk's base strength is greater than Hulk's base strength under normal conditions so he's definitely another good match for Superman second Red Hulk is able to absorb other forms of energy to make himself stronger he could absorb all the solar energy from Superman making him all but powerless if he chose to. Red She-Hulk same situation as Red Hulk and also because she uses a magical weapon she brings a problem for Superman as he's weak against magic. Next Namor not too likely to do much damage to Superman even if he is fresh out the water but his strength is still enough to atleast hurt him. Strength wise Herc and Superman are fairly equal based off of strength feats and giving weapons still make this a pretty good chance Herc wins. Worthy Thing was more powerful than Red Hulk and also brought magic to the table adding to making likely to beat Superman. Even without Void Sentry fought WWH to a stand still and his speed is atleast equal to Supermans taking away the one real advantage that he had in that he was incredibly faster than everyone. Not only that but Sentry is a molecular manipulator and although not experienced is able to change things on the molecular level and used enough raw power to beat a highly skilled reality warper. Skaar ,Blue Marvel, Abomination, Abomb and Ares are just over kill. Simply point even sun amped its just too much raw strength and too much magic not too mention many of the characters are combat experts of great level and very tactically aware.

QFT

QFT 2x

I have to wonder why everyone keeps quoting this. No one here is remotely as strong as a Superman with 15 minutes of sundipping (when he moved Warworld through space), what makes you think anyone here would be remotely close to him when he has 96x the time to sundip? And he's already vastly faster than anyone on that team without the sundip.

QFT on CitizenBane then.

#43 Posted by WaveMotionCannon (5422 posts) - - Show Bio
@CitizenBane I thought the Byrne version of Superman said he doesn't use his strength to move objects during flight he uses actual strength to lift it and a form of TK move manipulate it once in flight.
#44 Posted by Saren (25681 posts) - - Show Bio

@WaveMotionCannon said:

@CitizenBane I thought the Byrne version of Superman said he doesn't use his strength to move objects during flight he uses actual strength to lift it and a form of TK move manipulate it once in flight.

The Byrne version of Superman is outdated as hell, depending on which specific version you're talking about. Superman has pulled and moved heavy objects during flight innumerable times in the last decade alone and it was always attributed to superstrength.

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#45 Posted by Harddrivexxii (514 posts) - - Show Bio

Is dundipping reliant on time? If it is then Superman would be pretty much god level in 24 hours. Also does sundipping alter mental states because it doesn't say that Supes is bloodlusted. (Sorry bit of a noob on Superman)

#46 Posted by ReVamp (22865 posts) - - Show Bio

@Spiderslike said:

Ok I'll try and give a more detailed reason as to why Superman loses so bad. First off Hulk is the Hulk going along with the common standard Hulk just keeps getting stronger and stronger with rage. Yes Superman is very strong and definitely a good candidate to beat Hulk but he will always be challenged by his growing strength and powerful healing factor.

Provided the Hulk can grow exponentially, he can match Superman, in strength, but that's just speculation. Base Hulk gets owned by Superman.

Next Red Hulk Red Hulk's base strength is greater than Hulk's base strength under normal conditions so he's definitely another good match for Superman second Red Hulk is able to absorb other forms of energy to make himself stronger he could absorb all the solar energy from Superman making him all but powerless if he chose to.

I don't believe there's any feats to back up this type of energy absorption and even if there are, it would require him getting his hands on Superman.

Red She-Hulk same situation as Red Hulk and also because she uses a magical weapon she brings a problem for Superman as he's weak against magic.

She won't be able to touch him.

Next Namor not too likely to do much damage to Superman even if he is fresh out the water but his strength is still enough to atleast hurt him.

Not hurt him. Sure he can smack Supes around, but the latter would still be pretty tip-top.

Strength wise Herc and Superman are fairly equal based off of strength feats and giving weapons still make this a pretty good chance Herc wins. Worthy Thing was more powerful than Red Hulk and also brought magic to the table adding to making likely to beat Superman.

Magic means he can hurt Superman, it doesn't equate a win.

Even without Void Sentry fought WWH to a stand still and his speed is atleast equal to Supermans taking away the one real advantage that he had in that he was incredibly faster than everyone. Not only that but Sentry is a molecular manipulator and although not experienced is able to change things on the molecular level and used enough raw power to beat a highly skilled reality warper.

Molecule Man instance was PIS.

Skaar ,Blue Marvel, Abomination, Abomb and Ares are just over kill. Simply point even sun amped its just too much raw strength and too much magic not too mention many of the characters are combat experts of great level and very tactically aware.

A Bunch of them wouldn't even be able to touch him, let alone hurt him.

#47 Posted by Saren (25681 posts) - - Show Bio

@Harddrivexxii said:

Is dundipping reliant on time? If it is then Superman would be pretty much god level in 24 hours. Also does sundipping alter mental states because it doesn't say that Supes is bloodlusted. (Sorry bit of a noob on Superman)

Supes got pretty aggressive after 15 minutes of sundipping, it's plausible that 24 hours would drive him to bloodlust.

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#48 Posted by Deranged Midget (17599 posts) - - Show Bio

If he takes out Blue Marvel and Sentry right off the bat, he then has no problem with the other bricks who wouldn't even be able to see him before he rips their heads off.

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#49 Edited by Harddrivexxii (514 posts) - - Show Bio

@CitizenBane: In that case I think Superman takes this - if he gets that bad after 15 mins then he wouldn't even see the opposite team as anything else but things to destroy after 24 hours.

#50 Posted by Deranged Midget (17599 posts) - - Show Bio

@CitizenBane said:

@Harddrivexxii said:

Is dundipping reliant on time? If it is then Superman would be pretty much god level in 24 hours. Also does sundipping alter mental states because it doesn't say that Supes is bloodlusted. (Sorry bit of a noob on Superman)

Supes got pretty aggressive after 15 minutes of sundipping, it's plausible that 24 hours would drive him to bloodlust.

He wasn't aggressive after sun-dipping for a short time, he near shed all of his humanity in the process, hence why he was so relentless. Granted, he regained his senses eventually, but Superman sundipped for 24 hours wouldn't have any morals in the least.

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