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#1 Posted by sa5m (2112 posts) - - Show Bio
 Superman
 silver surfer
 martian manhunter
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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                                                                                                                             VS
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 flash
 Thor
hal jordan
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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-no morals
-1 day prep
-who wins and why?
-please use logic and reasoning
#2 Posted by Supreme Cosmic (764 posts) - - Show Bio

team 1 wins easily.
Want logic?
Not only they have better fighters, they have the better strategist as well. martian manhunter would be the one to make good use of that one day prep. Another thing is no moral which means surfer destroys the planet which screws flash and only lives the lantern. and Thor. At this point they'll lose

#3 Posted by Susanoo (5909 posts) - - Show Bio

Surfer beats Flash in a close match. 
Thor beats Manhunter in a very close fight. Even IF Manhunter can bring Thor into the astral realm, Thor has an immortal soul (astral body = soul) and Thor can travel between the plains of reality (He did it in astonishing Thor) 
Superman during mid battle will most likely try to race to the sun if he found out that he needs to in order to win.
#4 Posted by sa5m (2112 posts) - - Show Bio
@Susanoo: 
So you think the team 2 wins ?
#5 Posted by Fire Star (3478 posts) - - Show Bio
@Susanoo said:
"Surfer beats Flash in a close match. Thor beats Manhunter in a very close fight. Even IF Manhunter can bring Thor into the astral realm, Thor has an immortal soul (astral body = soul) and Thor can travel between the plains of reality (He did it in astonishing Thor) Superman during mid battle will most likely try to race to the sun if he found out that he needs to in order to win. "

How is Thor beating MM ? He has much more abilites and variety....
#6 Posted by Susanoo (5909 posts) - - Show Bio
@sa5m said:
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                    @Susanoo:  So you think the team 2 wins ?

                   

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Nvm I just saw the one day prep. Superman solos via sundip. However, a GL with prep isn't to be underestimated nor Thor charging his God Blast. Otherwise, I would still say team 1 in a tough battle.
#7 Posted by Supreme Cosmic (764 posts) - - Show Bio

remember this battles will end up in space even if it starts on a planet so there is no flash lol

#8 Posted by sa5m (2112 posts) - - Show Bio
@Susanoo: 
I want this prep to be just planning and to devise the plan, no getting extra powers or equipment just give them a chance to work together
#9 Posted by Susanoo (5909 posts) - - Show Bio
@Fire Star: 



P owers - Superhuman Strength
class 100+ (Can lift Sextillions of tons and close Dimensional Rifts),
Superhuman Speed (270,000+ MPH), Superhuman Agility, Superhuman
Reflexes (Nanosecond Reaction Speed), Superhuman Stamina (Can
fight for Months without Tiring
), Super Hearing, Advanced Healing
Factor, Longetivity, Invulnerability, Superbreath (Can blow
hurricane-like winds
), Warriors Madness (Thor’s Strength
Increases tenfold
), Geokinesis, Weather Manipulation (Can Control
Winds from 1000 Worlds, Rain, Temperature, Atmosphere, Ocean Currents, Cosmic
Storms, Thunder, and summon 1,000,000x amped Lightning
), Lightning and
Electrical Manipulation, Can travel in and out of the Universe and between
Plains of Reality, Energy Projection, God Blast (Can kill Immortals)



Magic/Mjolnir – Can
revert between Donald Blake and Thor, Only those Worthy can Lift Mjolnir,
Mjolnir always returns to Thor, Mjolnir moves wherever Thor wills it to, Can
track Beings across the Universe, Can Heal Beings, Flight (Billions of
Times FTL
), Telekinesis, Teleportation (Teleports Thor or other
beings across the Universe/Dimensions
), Can Summon the Dead, Can Negate
Magic, Can Strip beings of their Enchantments/Immortal Life force,
Invisibility, Intangilibility, Can strike Intangible Beings, Mass Mind Control,
Can Transcend Time and Space, Can create Forcefields, Can Open Dimensional
Rifts, Transmutation of Elements , Can Absorb limitless Energies, Can reverse
Polarities (Amplifies it a Hundredfold and sends it back), Can
Control the Elements, Controls Magnetism, Can shut down all Technology on the
Planet, Weather Manipulation, Lightning and Electrical Manipulation, Can
Produce Solar Flares/Thermoblast (1000x hotter than the Sun), Can
Create/Control Anti-Matter, Can create Alpha Particles to Disable
Machines/Technology at the Sub-Atomic Level, Anti-Gravity, Anti-Force, Time
Manipulation, Contains the Odin Force 
 
Thor has more powers and variety. Also, he has high telepathic resistance and IF MM can bring him into the astral plain, Thor has an immortal soul and he can travel between plains of reality in his coporeal or physical state.
#10 Posted by Susanoo (5909 posts) - - Show Bio
@sa5m said:
"

                    @Susanoo:  I want this prep to be just planning and to devise the plan, no getting extra powers or equipment just give them a chance to work together

                   

                "

 
Ah gotcha. In that case, I still say team 1 due to Surfer having Cosmic Awareness, Superman sending them to the phantom zone, ect. 
 
 
@Supreme Cosmic said:
"

                    remember this battles will end up in space even if it starts on a planet so there is no flash lol

                   

                "

Flash with the speedforce makes this irrelevant.
#11 Posted by sa5m (2112 posts) - - Show Bio
@Supreme Cosmic said:
" remember this battles will end up in space even if it starts on a planet so there is no flash lol "
hmm lets look at this with no planets be destroyed allowed lol
#12 Posted by Fire Star (3478 posts) - - Show Bio
@Susanoo:
A lot of those abilities overlap, and could be considered as one. Plus, Thor doesn't use most of that stuff on a regular bases in battle, you know that. Plus, Thor doesn't have the physical stats to compete with MM.
#13 Posted by Susanoo (5909 posts) - - Show Bio
@Fire Star:
Actually, I think Thor's physically on par with MM not including shapeshifting and Warrior's madness. Feats with the Midgard serpent, Neutron star, and armwrestling Herc. And also, in battle forums, we debate within character's powerset and such so these abilities usually are allowed depending on their morals. Which are turned off btw.
#14 Posted by _Courage_ (1183 posts) - - Show Bio
@Susanoo said:
" @Fire Star: Actually, I think Thor's physically on par with MM not including shapeshifting and Warrior's madness. Feats with the Midgard serpent, Neutron star, and armwrestling Herc. And also, in battle forums, we debate within character's powerset and such so these abilities usually are allowed depending on their morals. Which are turned off btw. "
Half of those abilities won't come into play in a battle though. I don't think he would summon the dead, negate magic, or disrupt machines in this. : /
Physically, J'onn and Thor are about the same. That's the best way to put it.
#15 Posted by ThanosIsMad (2202 posts) - - Show Bio

By the way people, Flash has ran in space before.  Besides, like Johnny and Jesse Quick, he could fly if he felt like it.

#16 Posted by Nefarious (19694 posts) - - Show Bio

Team 1 wins.

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#17 Posted by Susanoo (5909 posts) - - Show Bio
@_Courage_ said:
"

                    @Susanoo said:
"

                    @Fire Star: Actually, I think Thor's physically on par with MM not including shapeshifting and Warrior's madness. Feats with the Midgard serpent, Neutron star, and armwrestling Herc. And also, in battle forums, we debate within character's powerset and such so these abilities usually are allowed depending on their morals. Which are turned off btw.

                   

                "
Half of those abilities won't come into play in a battle though. I don't think he would summon the dead, negate magic, or disrupt machines in this. : / Physically, J'onn and Thor are about the same. That's the best way to put it.

                   

                "

yeah but just listing Thor's powers. Team 1 still wins though.
#18 Posted by pooty (11017 posts) - - Show Bio
@Susanoo said:  Team 1 still wins though.  
 
Agreed.
 
SS>>Flash or Thor or Hal
MM> Thor or Hal
Supes could lose to all 3 or defeat any of the 3
#19 Posted by _Courage_ (1183 posts) - - Show Bio
@Susanoo: 
Yeah, Team 1 wins.
#20 Posted by Susanoo (5909 posts) - - Show Bio
@pooty said:
"

                    @Susanoo said:  Team 1 still wins though.  

                   

                 Agreed.  SS>>Flash or Thor or Hal MM> Thor or Hal Supes could lose to all 3 or defeat any of the 3

                   

                "

I disagree with MM > Thor but it's not an MM vs Thor thread so I'm not going to debate this. Team 1 wins.
#21 Posted by Fire Star (3478 posts) - - Show Bio
@Susanoo said:
" @Fire Star: Actually, I think Thor's physically on par with MM not including shapeshifting and Warrior's madness. Feats with the Midgard serpent, Neutron star, and armwrestling Herc. And also, in battle forums, we debate within character's powerset and such so these abilities usually are allowed depending on their morals. Which are turned off btw. "

I am well aware of the Battle Forum Rules. Its still questionable about Thor being physically on par with MM.
#22 Posted by Susanoo (5909 posts) - - Show Bio
@Fire Star:
Yeah I agree. Thor was made to be the most powerful hero. That's why Stan Lee chose a god. Thor has also done things physically on par with MM and Supes so I'd say yeah.
#23 Posted by bag_o_x_men (682 posts) - - Show Bio

Flash is the weak link here. If morals were on it would be a different story,  maybe, but without them team one stomps.
#24 Posted by Susanoo (5909 posts) - - Show Bio
@bag_o_x_men said:
"

                    Flash is the weak link here. If morals were on it would be a different story,  maybe, but without them team one stomps.

                   

                "

Flash is the second most powerful character on this roster... and team 1 doesn't stomp.
#25 Posted by bag_o_x_men (682 posts) - - Show Bio
@Susanoo: 
Flash has the lowest durability, is the only non flier, and is the only one who doesn't just casually hang out in space.  He is the weak link here.  He may have a crazy powerset under normal circumstances, but this is anything but normal, and he dies almost immediately.  If morals were on, team two would have a good shot.  I think Hal could take J'onn while Thor engaged Surfer and Flash engages Supes.  Flash could speed steal Supes and would have a good shot there, then he and Hal could double team Supes, and then they could all triple team Surfer.  But with morals off, Surfer destroys the planet before Flash even knows he's there, he and Supes double team Thor and finish him, then help J'onn with Hal and it's over.  Stomp.   
Surfer with morals is bad, and more powerful than anyone here.  Surfer unfettered is almost unstoppable. 
#26 Posted by Silver2467 (16527 posts) - - Show Bio
@Susanoo said:
Even IF Manhunter can bring Thor into the astral realm, Thor has an immortal soul (astral body = soul) and Thor can travel between the plains of reality (He did it in astonishing Thor)   
You talk about dragging Thor to the astral plane as if that is J'onn's only telepathic application. He could give Thor a seizure, put him into a coma, induce sleep, shut off his mind, project every mind on earth into his mind, cause mental trauma, mind wipe him, create a mental suggestion that causes Thor to believe he died, generate illusions, etc., all of these things he has used before. Astral combat is not nearly the only ability at his disposal.
#27 Posted by Susanoo (5909 posts) - - Show Bio
@Silver2467 said:
"

                    @Susanoo said:
Even IF Manhunter can bring Thor into the astral realm, Thor has an immortal soul (astral body = soul) and Thor can travel between the plains of reality (He did it in astonishing Thor)   
You talk about dragging Thor to the astral plane as if that is J'onn's only telepathic application. He could give Thor a seizure, put him into a coma, induce sleep, shut off his mind, project every mind on earth into his mind, cause mental trauma, mind wipe him, create a mental suggestion that causes Thor to believe he died, generate illusions, etc., all of these things he has used before. Astral combat is not nearly the only ability at his disposal.

                   

                "

Can Thor really go into a coma or have a mental trauma though? Him being a godling of an elder goddess and the monarch of Asgard grants him vast resistance towards telepathy apparently like against Moondragon and the sort. Also, Thor went against Glory with psychic attacks that ate away his soul, mind, and body however, he didn't traumatize over this nor go into shock when in theory, it should. Has MM ever done this stuff to character's on the Herald level though? Like Supes?
#28 Edited by Silver2467 (16527 posts) - - Show Bio
@Susanoo said:

" @Silver2467 said:

"

                    @Susanoo said:
Even IF Manhunter can bring Thor into the astral realm, Thor has an immortal soul (astral body = soul) and Thor can travel between the plains of reality (He did it in astonishing Thor)   
You talk about dragging Thor to the astral plane as if that is J'onn's only telepathic application. He could give Thor a seizure, put him into a coma, induce sleep, shut off his mind, project every mind on earth into his mind, cause mental trauma, mind wipe him, create a mental suggestion that causes Thor to believe he died, generate illusions, etc., all of these things he has used before. Astral combat is not nearly the only ability at his disposal.

                   

                "
Can Thor really go into a coma or have a mental trauma though? Him being a godling of an elder goddess and the monarch of Asgard grants him vast resistance towards telepathy apparently like against Moondragon and the sort. Also, Thor went against Glory with psychic attacks that ate away his soul, mind, and body however, he didn't traumatize over this nor go into shock when in theory, it should. Has MM ever done this stuff to character's on the Herald level though? Like Supes? "
It really is not on me to prove he can be put into a coma or undergo mental trauma; you would have to prove he can't. Thor has resisted mind control, possession, and a few other forms of telepathy. The reason I neglected to mention some of J'onn's abilities, such as mind control or empathetic manipulation, is because Thor has withstood them, and I would rather just not open that discussion because most of it would become a comparison between telepaths and eventually wane into semantics. The Manhunter has influenced Superman and the rest of the JLA's minds more than once, but he has also affected characters with far more telepathic resistance than Clark has and other telepaths. As an example of the Martian's mental powers against gods, he telepathically kept the god Vishnu to sleep. But to be honest, having status as a god is just a title in comics that I hardly regard with any credence. It is not in itself a feat, nor does it intrinsically imply any higher order of power. There are just as many lower level gods in comics as there are higher level ones. Thor has mental resistances, but he has not resisted every form of telepathy that J'onn possesses. Now, if Thor had innate telepathic shields, then I would consider the possibility of him remaining unaffected by any form of telepathy, assuming, of course, that his shields were potent enough to do so. But generally, Thor simply resists having his mind affected by willpower or basic mental deterrence, not actual mentally-implanted shields like what telepaths have. He just has a powerful mind. Having said that, just because Thor can resist mind control or soul manipulation (which the Martian also has) does not mean he can automatically resist any number of the telepathic applications I listed above. 
#29 Posted by Susanoo (5909 posts) - - Show Bio
@Silver2467 said:
"

                    @Susanoo said:

" @Silver2467 said:

"

                     @Susanoo said:
Even IF Manhunter can bring Thor into the astral realm, Thor has an immortal soul (astral body = soul) and Thor can travel between the plains of reality (He did it in astonishing Thor)   
You talk about dragging Thor to the astral plane as if that is J'onn's only telepathic application. He could give Thor a seizure, put him into a coma, induce sleep, shut off his mind, project every mind on earth into his mind, cause mental trauma, mind wipe him, create a mental suggestion that causes Thor to believe he died, generate illusions, etc., all of these things he has used before. Astral combat is not nearly the only ability at his disposal.

                   

                "
Can Thor really go into a coma or have a mental trauma though? Him being a godling of an elder goddess and the monarch of Asgard grants him vast resistance towards telepathy apparently like against Moondragon and the sort. Also, Thor went against Glory with psychic attacks that ate away his soul, mind, and body however, he didn't traumatize over this nor go into shock when in theory, it should. Has MM ever done this stuff to character's on the Herald level though? Like Supes?

                   

                "
It really is not on me to prove he can be put into a coma or undergo mental trauma; you would have to prove he can't. Thor has resisted mind control, possession, and a few other forms of telepathy. The reason I neglected to mention some of J'onn's abilities, such as mind control or empathetic manipulation, is because Thor has withstood them, and I would rather just not open that discussion because most of it would become a comparison between telepaths and eventually wane into semantics. The Manhunter has influenced Superman and the rest of the JLA's minds more than once, but he has also affected characters with far more telepathic resistance than Clark has and other telepaths. As an example of the Martian's mental powers against gods, he telepathically kept the god Vishnu to sleep. But to be honest, having status as a god is just a title in comics that I hardly regard with any credence. It is not in itself a feat, nor does it intrinsically imply any higher order of power. There are just as many lower level gods in comics as there are higher level ones. Thor has mental resistances, but he has not resisted every form of telepathy that J'onn possesses. Now, if Thor had innate telepathic shields, then I would consider the possibility of him remaining unaffected by any form of telepathy, assuming, of course, that his shields were potent enough to do so. But generally, Thor simply resists having his mind affected by willpower or basic mental deterrence, not actual mentally-implanted shields like what telepaths have. He just has a powerful mind. Having said that, just because Thor can resist mind control or soul manipulation (which the Martian also has) does not mean he can automatically resist any number of the telepathic applications I listed above. 

                   

                "

Being a god in comics for Thor did grant him the ability to travel between the plains of reality, in his physical or corporeal form and jump out of the universe. The problem is however, when Manhunter did his telepathy on Adam, pis happened. Why can't it for Thor? Also, being a godling of 2 gods of the stature of Odin and Gaia does grant him quite a bit of protection as skyfather's like them aren't really affected by mind attacks. Anyways, I just needed to see what Manhunter did with his telepathy.
#30 Posted by Silver2467 (16527 posts) - - Show Bio
@Susanoo said: 
Being a god in comics for Thor did grant him the ability to travel between the plains of reality, in his physical or corporeal form and jump out of the universe.  
This has nothing to do with telepathy though. Not exactly sure what your point is with this, but the Manhunter was able to telepathically locate and communicate with Flash while Wally was in a separate dimension. So trans-dimensional scales are not of the essence in this battle.
 
The problem is however, when Manhunter did his telepathy on Adam, pis happened.   
If you understand this is PIS, why do you bring it up? 
 
Also, being a godling of 2 gods of the stature of Odin and Gaia does grant him quite a bit of protection as skyfather's like them aren't really affected by mind attacks. Anyways, I just needed to see what Manhunter did with his telepathy. "
What are you asking for specifically?
#31 Posted by EpitomeofCool (2779 posts) - - Show Bio
@Fire Star said:
 Plus, Thor doesn't have the physical stats to compete with MM. "
or surfer or supes...hes the weak link on team 2....
#32 Posted by Susanoo (5909 posts) - - Show Bio
@EpitomeofCool said:
"

                    @Fire Star said:
 Plus, Thor doesn't have the physical stats to compete with MM.

                   

                "
or surfer or supes...hes the weak link on team 2....

                   

                "
Um Thor is physically stronger than Surfer and on par with Supes. He isn't a weak link but team 1 takes this regardless.
 
@Silver2467:
The whole point of transdimensional travel is that it resulted from Thor's godhood and that it can be used to escape the astral battle. I'm asking to see if MM affected anyone like Thor. Thank you for the info btw.
#33 Posted by EpitomeofCool (2779 posts) - - Show Bio


Um Thor is physically stronger than Surfer and on par with Supes. He isn't a weak link
no he's not......Hal and Flash cold both beat him to.....
#34 Posted by Silver2467 (16527 posts) - - Show Bio
@Susanoo said: 
@Silver2467: The whole point of transdimensional travel is that it resulted from Thor's godhood and that it can be used to escape the astral battle.   
I see. 
 
I'm asking to see if MM affected anyone like Thor. Thank you for the info btw. "
Not exactly sure what you mean by "like Thor," but he has created illusions against the Secret Society that caused all of them to believe they were in pain resulting from being attacked by their respective hero/nemesis. J'onn did this while his powers were weakened, and Grodd, another telepath, was in the roster he did this to. He has put White Martians into comas before. He beat his brother in astral combat without effort. He put himself and the JLA to sleep. His telepathy was used to mind control the JLA, including Aquaman and Plastic Man. He has given a team of enemies a seizure. He has mind controlled four or five White Martians simultaneously. He dragged the Spectre and the JLA to the astral plane. He gathered and projected the minds of everyone on earth into D'Kay's mind while he and D'Kay were on Mars. He temporarily made the Joker sane while Joker had the Philosopher's Stone. He telepathically put Vishnu to sleep.  
 
Maybe these will answer your question. But again, I am not completely sure I follow what you mean by "like Thor."
#35 Posted by bag_o_x_men (682 posts) - - Show Bio
@Silver2467:
None of these characters has the tp resistance Thor has shown.  If Moondragon with the mind gem can't affect him, Manhunter can't. 
#36 Posted by Valtot (4502 posts) - - Show Bio
@bag_o_x_men:
actually thor is normally shown to be effected by telepathy its when he gets enraged or such that he starts resisting
#37 Posted by supermandefender (2038 posts) - - Show Bio
@Fire Star:

I wouldnt say Thor doesnt have the physical stats but I do agree MM is problly physically stronger by a bit. Combaring Thors feats to Superman and comparing MM to Superman.  
But Thor still has that magic hammer which is crazy powerful. Plus Thor can enter warrior maddness mode and reach levels to a current Superman in the strength department. I wouldnt count Thor out.  
 But I go with team 1.  
 
I just love this vid.   
  
#38 Posted by Susanoo (5909 posts) - - Show Bio
@Silver2467 said:
"

                    @Susanoo said: 
@Silver2467: The whole point of transdimensional travel is that it resulted from Thor's godhood and that it can be used to escape the astral battle.   
I see. 
 
I'm asking to see if MM affected anyone like Thor. Thank you for the info btw.

                   

                "
Not exactly sure what you mean by "like Thor," but he has created illusions against the Secret Society that caused all of them to believe they were in pain resulting from being attacked by their respective hero/nemesis. J'onn did this while his powers were weakened, and Grodd, another telepath, was in the roster he did this to. He has put White Martians into comas before. He beat his brother in astral combat without effort. He put himself and the JLA to sleep. His telepathy was used to mind control the JLA, including Aquaman and Plastic Man. He has given a team of enemies a seizure. He has mind controlled four or five White Martians simultaneously. He dragged the Spectre and the JLA to the astral plane. He gathered and projected the minds of everyone on earth into D'Kay's mind while he and D'Kay were on Mars. He temporarily made the Joker sane while Joker had the Philosopher's Stone. He telepathically put Vishnu to sleep.   Maybe these will answer your question. But again, I am not completely sure I follow what you mean by "like Thor."

                   

                "

 I meant as in league with Thor like herald level. Thanks for the info btw. Can you tell me how MM got his powers? 
 
@supermandefender:
Thor normally has strength in that level.
#39 Posted by Susanoo (5909 posts) - - Show Bio
@EpitomeofCool said:
"

                   

Um Thor is physically stronger than Surfer and on par with Supes. He isn't a weak link
no he's not......Hal and Flash cold both beat him to.....

                   

                "

Flash could beat him. Not sure about current Hal though. And he is in league with Superman if he doesn't sundip.
#40 Posted by TheFallenOne (1093 posts) - - Show Bio
@Susanoo said:
" @Fire Star: 



P owers - Superhuman Strength
class 100+ (Can lift Sextillions of tons and close Dimensional Rifts),
Superhuman Speed (270,000+ MPH), Superhuman Agility, Superhuman
Reflexes (Nanosecond Reaction Speed), Superhuman Stamina (Can
fight for Months without Tiring
), Super Hearing, Advanced Healing
Factor, Longetivity, Invulnerability, Superbreath (Can blow
hurricane-like winds
), Warriors Madness (Thor’s Strength
Increases tenfold
), Geokinesis, Weather Manipulation (Can Control
Winds from 1000 Worlds, Rain, Temperature, Atmosphere, Ocean Currents, Cosmic
Storms, Thunder, and summon 1,000,000x amped Lightning
), Lightning and
Electrical Manipulation, Can travel in and out of the Universe and between
Plains of Reality, Energy Projection, God Blast (Can kill Immortals)



Magic/Mjolnir – Can
revert between Donald Blake and Thor, Only those Worthy can Lift Mjolnir,
Mjolnir always returns to Thor, Mjolnir moves wherever Thor wills it to, Can
track Beings across the Universe, Can Heal Beings, Flight (Billions of
Times FTL
), Telekinesis, Teleportation (Teleports Thor or other
beings across the Universe/Dimensions
), Can Summon the Dead, Can Negate
Magic, Can Strip beings of their Enchantments/Immortal Life force,
Invisibility, Intangilibility, Can strike Intangible Beings, Mass Mind Control,
Can Transcend Time and Space, Can create Forcefields, Can Open Dimensional
Rifts, Transmutation of Elements , Can Absorb limitless Energies, Can reverse
Polarities (Amplifies it a Hundredfold and sends it back), Can
Control the Elements, Controls Magnetism, Can shut down all Technology on the
Planet, Weather Manipulation, Lightning and Electrical Manipulation, Can
Produce Solar Flares/Thermoblast (1000x hotter than the Sun), CanCreate/Control Anti-Matter, Can create Alpha Particles to DisableMachines/Technology at the Sub-Atomic Level, Anti-Gravity, Anti-Force, TimeManipulation, Contains the Odin Force  Thor has more powers and variety. Also, he has high telepathic resistance and IF MM can bring him into the astral plain, Thor has an immortal soul and he can travel between plains of reality in his coporeal or physical state. "

You ever played DOTA ? This post is "GodLike" !!!
#41 Posted by goldenshot80 (7349 posts) - - Show Bio
@Nefarious said:
" Team 1 wins. "
#42 Posted by Nefarious (19694 posts) - - Show Bio
@goldenshot80: Does this fight seem unfair to you?
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#43 Posted by TheAdriaticSea (16 posts) - - Show Bio

Team 1. 
With Martian Manhunter and Superman its like double trouble.

#44 Posted by bag_o_x_men (682 posts) - - Show Bio
@Valtot said:
" @bag_o_x_men: actually thor is normally shown to be effected by telepathy its when he gets enraged or such that he starts resisting "
He does have a high degree of tp resistance, but yes you are correct.  I was thinking that since he's without morals he'd be raging.  That's not necessarily the case, but that's where my head's at.  And even if he doesn't start the battle raging, without morals, I think he will very quickly.
#45 Posted by termiteone4ever (7177 posts) - - Show Bio

Team 1 got this

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#46 Posted by King Saturn (224025 posts) - - Show Bio
I think Team 1 should win here... this is gonna be an interesting battle though...
#47 Posted by supermandefender (2038 posts) - - Show Bio
@Susanoo:

I dont disagree with you but i guess im use to somebody also fanning up a character to mcuh lol.  
 
I ment it like if you compare Thors feats of strength to Supermans then Thors not close. And then if you compare MM to Superman there strength is roughy the same so then if you go by feats alone MM would be stronger by comparing alone. That does not make it true. Just so you understand where Im coming from. I compare feats.  
 
This was already brought up to me and i completely agree just because a character has never done somehting doesnt mean they cant. Example: Superman can move planets.....if the Hulk has never done this but if the Hulk could fly could he....problly.
 Thor hasnt moved a planet either but he has done several of feats of strength that are impressive. Feats that even put the Hulk to shame but the Hulk has over powered Thor a number of times.
#48 Posted by Silver2467 (16527 posts) - - Show Bio
@Susanoo said: 
I meant as in league with Thor like herald level. 
Alright.  
 
Thanks for the info btw.   
Anytime. 
 
Can you tell me how MM got his powers?   
From his physiology. Martians naturally possess Kryptonian-level physical stats, telepathy, shape shifting, invisibility, intangibility, flight, heat vision, and some other powers.
#49 Posted by czarny_samael666 (17174 posts) - - Show Bio

Hard battle. Many possibilities.
Hmmm...
 
Surfer will boost Superman with power of Sun. Then he will amp himself with power of another star. Thanks to matter manipulation he will make an adamantium armors for him and his teammates.  Surfer will make a wall of defence by energy of another star. Surfer and MM is strating to be invisible and intangible. Surfer also cover himself by energy and matter manipulation.
 
Hal will create armors for his teammates and make something that will allow Flash to fly and use his speed in air.
Thor will drian some star and charge God Blast. Hal will make wall by his energy manipulation.
 
Battle starts:
Thor see only Superman and put him down by GB.
Flash thanks to ability to fly starts to look for enemies. He finds Martian and put him down.
Surfer attacks Flash by TP and takes him down. He one-shot Hal with his star boosted powers. 
 
Then we have Thor vs. Surfer. Thor could BFR him, but he don't know where Surfer is. Surfer is stomping Thor like he did to BRB.
 
Team 1 wins, but barely.

#50 Posted by supermandefender (2038 posts) - - Show Bio
@Silver2467:
Some of Martains powers come from Telekensis or so it said in his earlier years of comics. Like his ability to fly and have heat vision was said to be from his telekentic powers. But the rest im totally unsure about. If you have a whole planet full of Supermans how does a race of white martians beat them? Those white martians arent that strong.
But im not sure. your problly right.