Superman runs the gauntlet

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#1  Edited By dorukesin
PRE52 Superman
PRE52 Superman

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  • Clark is bloodlusted
  • Out character
  • No Morals
  • Sundipped
  • He have master knowledge of all of his powers
  • He's running for Lois
  • No TP
  • Fight to the death

Rounds

  1. The Thing + Rhyno
  2. Hulk
  3. Gladiator
  4. Hyperion
  5. Captain Marvel
  6. Pre52 Bizarro,no jobbing
  7. Wonder Woman
  8. Sentry(No Void)
  9. New 52 Superman
  10. John Stewart
  11. Hal Jordan,couldn't create kryptonite
  12. WW3 Black Adam
  13. Thor + Smallville Superman
  14. Apocalypse(No TP)
  15. Martian Manhunter(No TP)
  16. Doomsday
  17. Darkseid
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Stops at 5

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No morals for everyone? Or just Clark?

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Darkseid may stop him. Otherwise, he clears.

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Most definitely stoping at doomsday, even with sundipped, he should be in no condition to give it his all

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#6  Edited By reaverlation

Could stop at 6 or 8 or a plethora of people. It's all up to interpretation

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#7  Edited By tomlikesfries

@monsterstomp said:

No morals for everyone? Or just Clark?

This is of big relevance as well. And is he healed after each fight? In my post I disregarded how tired he might get after a certain point and assumed that everyone but Clark had their regular mode code applied. In case the fight conditions are any different, my opinion would most certainly change.

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#8  Edited By dorukesin

@tomlikesfries said:

@monsterstomp said:

No morals for everyone? Or just Clark?

This is of big relevance as well. And is he healed after each fight? In my post I disregarded how tired he might get after a certain point and assumed that everyone but Clark had their regular mode code applied.

yes no morals for everyone.Only Clark is bloodlusted.He healed after each fight,actually he takes 5 min. sundip after every round

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#9  Edited By Experio

Stops at Thor and Smallville Superman

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#10  Edited By tomlikesfries

@dorukesin: In that case my opinion is unchanged. Aside from Darkseid, Thor and Smallville Superman pose the biggest threat. I know nothing about the latter however. I'm just assuming that he's a weaker version of the regular comic Clark.

Also, it's worth mentioning that we have no way of knowing how much the sun dipping would amp Superman. Of course it'd make him more powerful, but we don't know by how much. However, considering that he has the amp and is fighting for Louis, I do believe that he could take on a weaker version of himself and Thor at once.

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Stops at John or Hal

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Want to say stops at sentry.

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#13  Edited By dorukesin

@dorukesin: In that case my opinion is unchanged. Aside from Darkseid, Thor and Smallville Superman pose the biggest threat. I know nothing about the latter however. I'm just assuming that he's a weaker version of the regular comic Clark.

Smallville Superman ? nooo he's faster than New52 Superman,he have better reaction time than a nanosecond and he pushed apokalips into a orbit but I those are not enough for Bloodlusted Sundipped Pre52 Superman

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Could stop at glad depending on confidenece

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Could stop at glad depending on confidenece

How?

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@dorukesin: In that case my opinion is unchanged. Aside from Darkseid, Thor and Smallville Superman pose the biggest threat. I know nothing about the latter however. I'm just assuming that he's a weaker version of the regular comic Clark.

By the end of the series Smallville Clark was operating at near or at light speed not just running or flying and the finale had him push a planet away from Earth easily.

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#17  Edited By loplopool

@tomlikesfries: full confidence glad easily destroys planets and goes way faster than FTL he would provide more than a match

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@tomlikesfries: full confidence glad easily destroys planets and goes way faster than FTL he would provide more than a match

He goes faster than light when traveling in hyperspace but in combat

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#19  Edited By tomlikesfries

@dorukesin: @night4345: Apokolips is ridiculously small in comparison to Earth. And New 52 Superman has flown at speeds that surpass light before, so I wouldn't put the Smallville version above his current based on feats.

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#20  Edited By Kingant27

Stops at 3, depending on his confidence.

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@dorukesin: @night4345: Apokolips is ridiculously small in comparison to Earth. And New 52 Superman has flown at speeds that surpass light before, so I wouldn't put the Smallville version above his current.

Apokolips changed in size several times. in some shots it was larger than Saturn, in some shots it was a little bigger Earth but in some it was smaller than Earth. It's still above what pre-flashpoint superman could do. New-52 has gone faster than light yes but Smallville can fight at faster speeds like the flash can.

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@night4345: You're underestimating the Flash. No version of Superman could ever even dream of flying as fast as Wally can run. Flying faster than the speed of light isn't something that both Clark's current and Pre-Flashpoint version haven't already done. When he pushed Apokolips it was roughly the size of Metropolis and, considering that Superman has helped pull the Earth before, our feats are incomparable.

If Superman ever ran as fast as Barry or Wally in the TV show, that's just a diminishing feat for the Flash, putting him far below his comic version.

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@night4345: You're underestimating the Flash. No version of Superman could ever even dream of flying as fast as Wally can run. Flying faster than the speed of light isn't something that both Clark's current and Pre-Flashpoint version haven't already done. When he pushed Apokolips it was roughly the size of Metropolis and, considering that Superman has helped pull the Earth before, our feats are incomparable.

If Superman ever ran as fast as Barry or Wally in the TV show, that's just a diminishing feat for the Flash, putting him far below his comic version.

I said he can fight at the speed he runs at like the flash does. The Flash in Smallville was also much faster than Clark.

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Stops at Martian Manhunter. His powers are too versatile even without TP.

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Stops at 12. Black Adam with Isis powers is too much.

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List seems a little out of order. I think New 52 Superman can stop him. Gladiator is his first real fight. He should lose any amp he gets from the 5 minutes in the sun while fighting most of these people. New 52 Superman just has him in stats. Even with a 5, 10, or 15 minute sun dip he'd still be behind.

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#27  Edited By reaverlation

@pokeysteve: Pre 52 Superman is still overall more faster,durable,and a helluva better fighter then New 52.

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Stops at Martian Manhunter. His powers are too versatile even without TP.

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I think he clears it. I was going to say stops at 17, but Darkseid is two beings: Deadly Darkseid and Jobberseid.

New 52 Supes is maybe the most interesting, but then Pre52 had WAY BETTER durability feats.

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@pokeysteve: Pre 52 Superman is still overall more faster,durable,and a helluva better fighter then New 52.

Meh. It's debatable. Better fighter is kind of moot since he never ever uses the skills we've seen. New 52 Supe has taken on tougher opponents than Pre 52 off the top of my head. H'el and Helspont top most of pre 52 Superman's baddies.

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@tomlikesfries: in 15 minutes sun dipped his powers increase by 3. The op said he sun dips for 5 minutes after every fight. He clears.

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Stops at 2. Hulk murders!!!

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#33  Edited By pooty

@tomlikesfries: in 15 minutes sun dipped his powers increase by 3. The op said he sun dips for 5 minutes after every fight. He clears.

Where is it stated that 15 minutes increases his power by 3x or is that an internet rumor?

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#34  Edited By reaverlation

@pokeysteve: New 52 Superman hasn't came close to nanoseconds in speed or durability on Supernova+.PC Superman can use his powers and fighting abilities much more proficiently than New 52.

@sheryinistoosexy:keep dreaming

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Based on these rules he clears the lot!!

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#36  Edited By Apocalypse3

MM is higher than Thor and superboy no

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@experio: Why do people think Thor could lay a finger or even give trouble to Supes?

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We don't know Superman's power level when he's sundipped unless specified in the comic. Superman has knowledge of all his powers, but knowledge doesn't equal control of full-potential. Superman doesn't have telepathy. As far as the gauntlet goes, he either stops at 2 or 3, if he's lucky.

@elmohump : Because Thor has magic and Superman is susceptible to magic, plus Thor has a wide range of abilities over Superman (coupled by magic).

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#39  Edited By ColaNicole

I think he could clear. There's a lot of tough fights here though.

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What's stopping him from Speed Blitzing/BFRing half of these?

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No way does he make it past Manhunter.

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@tomlikesfries said:

@dorukesin: @night4345: Apokolips is ridiculously small in comparison to Earth. And New 52 Superman has flown at speeds that surpass light before, so I wouldn't put the Smallville version above his current based on feats.

He saw the light frozen from point blank range.Well light travels approximately 11.8 inch(29.9 centimeters) in 1 nanosecond.Which gives him a better reaction speed than a nanosecond.Shortly he can accelerate towards 186.000 miles per second from point blank range.

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also Apokalips is clearly larger than Saturn and Earth in the Finale episode.Don't show me a Finale Cover Pictures(for Apokalips) now,just look

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List seems a little out of order. I think New 52 Superman can stop him. Gladiator is his first real fight. He should lose any amp he gets from the 5 minutes in the sun while fighting most of these people. New 52 Superman just has him in stats. Even with a 5, 10, or 15 minute sun dip he'd still be behind.

I'm not going to try to chance your opinion.But you're always wrong when it cames to Pre52 Superman.I put the first rounds as snacks

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We don't know Superman's power level when he's sundipped unless specified in the comic. Superman has knowledge of all his powers, but knowledge doesn't equal control of full-potential. Superman doesn't have telepathy. As far as the gauntlet goes, he either stops at 2 or 3, if he's lucky.

@elmohump : Because Thor has magic and Superman is susceptible to magic, plus Thor has a wide range of abilities over Superman (coupled by magic).

But Supes has shown to be able to tank worse.

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I do think this gauntlet is a little out of order. For example, WW3 Black Adam is much more dangerous than New 52 Superman would be to Pre New 52 Supes. As are the Green Lanterns in all honesty. IMO, he might stop at Round 11 though Hal would be hard pressed to counter Superman's sheer strength and speed without any morals checking that power. He should get past WW3 Black Adam for a slight majority but he does stop at Round 13. Individually, Pre New 52 Superman can take Thor and Smallville Superman. But together, they might be able to overpower him. Smallville Superman might be able to keep up with Clark enough for him to catch him off guard and for Thor to land the necessary blows (though he'd need to hammer away very hard to do so) to put Superman down. I can't see him beating anyone past Round 13 though.

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@elmohump : So has Thor.

That isn't even the point..Superman really is better physically and based on skill or experience.The only thing Thor has against Supes is his lightning and Supes has shown to be able to tank worse.

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We don't know Superman's power level when he's sundipped unless specified in the comic. Superman has knowledge of all his powers, but knowledge doesn't equal control of full-potential. Superman doesn't have telepathy. As far as the gauntlet goes, he either stops at 2 or 3, if he's lucky.

@elmohump : Because Thor has magic and Superman is susceptible to magic, plus Thor has a wide range of abilities over Superman (coupled by magic).

But the thing is single Thor is just statue for Clark.They're completely on different leagues when it cames to the reaction speed.

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Stops at 6.

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@dorukesin: Exactly.I don't get why people say that Thor is on par and might even beat Supes with middle or high difficulty.That's bull crap man.

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#50  Edited By dorukesin

@elmohump: They're fanboys.Thor can match with Clark if their speeds are equaled.Otherwise it's like Flash vs Superman dude.Clark just speed up himself,dilates the time in a fraction of pico/nanosecond,everything including Thor turns into a statue,Clark goes and eats his lunch then plays some basketball and then beats the crap out of Thor.

But now Thor have a guy who can match with Pre52 Superman in the terms of speed.It's a good match up