Superman Rogues Gallery vs Thor Rogues Gallery

Team Superman(Pre 52)

1. Darkseid
2. Mongul w/ rings
3. Lobo
4. Parasite
5. Bizzaro
6. Brainiac
7. Cyborg Superman
8. Superboy Prime
9. Ultraman
10. H/P Doomsday

Team Thor

1. Loki
2. Malekith
3. Enchantress
4. Destroyer
5. Gorr
6. Skurge
7. Surtur
8. Hela
9. Midgard Serpent
10. Wrecking Crew

Who wins?

Team Thor due to Surtur and Gorr. And if it's classic Loki, then it's a stomp.

Superman Rogues pretty handily.

Surtur can potentially solo.

how is he going to solo darkseid and superboy prime.

Thor team handily.

You realize he's gone toe-to-toe with Odin right?

sbp broke the speed force. sbp also is immune to matter manipulators. sbp is a walking evil plot device. nothing works on him, and he has no weaknesses. i guess he is supposed to be silver age supes with no weaknesses. surtur is not beating sbp and and darkseid at the same time. magi does not work on sbp.

The emoboy can have his mind toyed with rather easily by loki

magic doesn't work on him. tp doesn't even work will on him.

Surtur solos

Team Thor.

@experio said:

Surtur isn't magical.

@highaccuser: isn't sultur a demon? don't their powers come from magic. he would have to face sbp with physicals alone. it's not just him vs sbp. it's him verses all of them. he isn't soloing them. darsdeid by himself is a god. adding dardseid to sbp, brainiac, and mongul is an epic team to begin with. then they have parasite who can absorb a lot of the other team's powers. i don't see how one character can solo that team.

Surturs power has never been shown to be inheritely magical in nature.

Surtur fought evenly with Odin you know right?

Backing Superman's Rouges by far.

Dat Superboy Prime/ Darkseid combo will kill ya.

Surtur kills all of Superman's rogues except Darkside, Doomsday and Mongul instantly alone. Superboy Prime may survive this initial assault but the rest are definitely gone. If you didn't put Surtur and Gorr here it'd be a better fight.

This is true, But he is a certified Galaxy Buster, that means he can destroy a galaxy which one of these rogues has that on his resume?

@deaditegonzo: Against Surtur?How so?

Thor Rogues, Midgard serpent, Gorr, and Surtur being the MVP's.

Thor team stomps. Thor finally wins if only by proxy.

Superman rogues without a doubt.

Manipulation in the sense that talking him into commiting suicide and I was not aware he is tp resistant could you post a scan

One character doesnt make up for a whole team. 1-4, and 9 & 10 leave me personally very underwhelmed on team Thor. Also, as is the nature of villains, a lot of them lack a lot of feats themselves, so we have to talk about how they perform against their heroes, and Thor is below Superman in nearly every category.

Op never specified Pre52, but I assume that is the versions he is using as half the team hasnt even shown up New52. That said, the last Pre52 appearance of Darkseid was killing the entire Multiverse. Superboy Prime and H/P Doomsday are both literally plot devices with no vulnerabilities and no limits. Superman could only stop Doomsday by taking him to the end of time, and Superboy Prime tanked the end of a universe and became the Time Trapper (and then he wasnt? Idk that was confusing).

Superman rogues.The magic users are useless against prime.Plus all Prime has to do is take The Twilight sword from Surtur the end.

The Anti-Thor army stomps.

Beata

@homicidalmaniac: And you think Odin could fight Darkseid, SBP, H/P Doomsday, and Cyborg Superman?

Comic Vine use the most current version unless the OP states other wise,so we's mainly using New 52 versions on most of team Superman villains.Saying Thor is below Superman in nearly category and the villains lack feats is just plain low balling.

H/P Doomsday been one shot by Imperiex,Imperiex Big Bang had been debunk recently.Imperiex under his own power doesn't have the power of the Big Bang(unless he get prep).That I.You are just using a no limit fallacy on H/P Doomsday and Superboy Prime.Superboy Prime been hurt by the Flashes before.I seen people said that Darkseid didn't do much in Final Crisis(other states otherwise)and that doesn't matter we are using New 52 Darkseid.That wasn't Superboy Prime,but Superman Prime(which he stated he was more powerful IIRC) and IIRC Time Trapper save Superman Prime from Monarch sending Prime outside that universe.

Surtur alone causally destroyed galaxies and he was a threat to Odin and Odin is a universal threat.

@uberhikari opinion?

Odin is a universal threat,so yes.

What you wrote gives me the impression you havent read many of the appearances involving the characters being discussed. If you have, I apologize. But I am underlining and bolding an example of what I mean.

Thor is below Superman in nearly every category. The one thing he has going for him is striking advantage (because Mjolnir + Thor's strength makes for some fierce hits).

Each Imperiex drone was superior to every character EXCEPT Superman and Doomsday. And those were just the drones. Imperiex Prime could beat pretty much any character on either list 1 on 1. If you disagree with that, then there is no point in us debating, because your perspective is so far off from my own.

My point about H/P Doomsday and Superboy Prime is that they are both plot devices before characters, if you dont agree with that assessment, im sorry, but that's how I see it.

Due to the licensing issues that were taking place (the name Superboy could not be used), I believe Superman Prime was the most recent incarnation of Superboy Prime.

However, if it makes you feel any better, if it is New 52 versions, than Team Thor wins due to lack of appearances. Pre52, Team Supes wins easy.

Surtur gives Thor villains the win. Theoretically speaking, can't Hela just take all the souls of the mortals nigh-instantly?

Team Superman FTW!

Ok,lets not get carried away now,and it really means nothing Darkseid is a multiversal threat I guess he solos.

Mjolnir is part of Thor than Superman is part of the Sun.The biggest reason why Superman is rank higher than Thor is the speed category,otherwise Thor have others stats that are equal to Superman's stats if not greater.

Imperiex Probes aren't consistence to each other,a Imperiex Probe solo the JLA,but another Imperiex Probe had lost to Wonder Woman.Imperiex Prime doesn't have the feats to say he's above Odin.Yeah,I pretty much don't agree with your perspective.

Just because,you say their plot devices that doesn't mean they can beat nearly every character.

I believe Superman Prime was turn back to his Superboy Prime self in his last Pre-New 52 appearances.

Pre-New 52 or not,I don't see Superman villains winning against Surtur+Gorr+Destroyer Armor+Loki and others unless Darkseid have Soulfire or what.

Let agree to disagree

Good luck trying that on Darkseid and Cyborg Supes.

Odin isn't universe level,because he actually shown to threaten the Marvel universe in three battles across three eras under his own power.

And Darkseid has threatened the multiverse before,he'll do it again next year.

I recall FC Darkseid just mess up the foundation of Pre-New 52 DC multiversre.

Do they have souls?

Going for team thor

@edgejohn: Is Team Superman New 52 or Pre-52?

lol no, do you know who are Gorr and Surtur?

@bigcimmerian: lol yes, do you know who are Darkseid and Superboy Prime?

Of course. Darkseid is non factor and Prime is beaten to bloody pulp by Destroyer.

Raw power and versatility goes to team 2. Physical power/stats go to team 1. Im inclined to think team 2 wins

@highaccuser: and won

Surtur gore and Midgard serpent solo