Superman Prime VS The Heroic Avengers

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Superman Prime (Kal-El)

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VS!

The Heroic Avengers

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Settings.

  • All fully powered,healthy and in peak shape.
  • Avengers start in/with their original states.
  • Battle takes place in destroyed Earth.
  • Fight till death.
  • Who wins and why.

Rounds.

  1. Everything is allowed.
  2. Superman Prime is bloodlusted but also Hulk is World Breaker this round and Thor is Rune King.

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I'm sorry but a group of Green Lanterns would manhandle this team. Superboy-Prime slaughtered 60 odd of them in his battle against the entire corps, and he even took on the Guardians themselves.

RKT may be a bigger problem i don't think he could take him but WBH is just fodder.

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#6  Edited By uugieboogie

@reno117 said:

@uugieboogie Tell us what your thoughts are :)

Did you make a battle "knowing" that Prime would win? Anyway, when you say "everything is allowed" exactly what do you mean by everything? Can Thor get the destroyer armor? Can Carol go Binary? Does Strange have access to the Black Priest? You should be a lot more specific. But in Round 2 it doesn't matter because RKT solos, you do realize he's at elder god level right?

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@reno117 said:

@uugieboogie Tell us what your thoughts are :)

Did you make a battle "knowing" that Prime would win? Anyway, when you say "everything is allowed" exactly what do you mean by everything? Can Thor get the destroyer armor? Can Carol go Binary? Does Strange have access to the Black Priest? You should be a lot more specific. But in Round 2 it doesn't matter because RKT solos, you do realize he's at elder god level right?

If I knew that man I wouldn't make this thread. When I mean everything, I totally mean EVERYTHING, so yes. I know that he's an elder god level but @darkseid1006 seems to have a different opinion..

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@reno117 said:

If I knew that man I wouldn't make this thread. When I mean everything, I totally mean EVERYTHING, so yes. I know that he's an elder god level but @darkseid1006 seems to have a different opinion..

If all that is included Dr Strange solos Round 1. And again, RKT solos Round 2 effortlessly.

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prime takes a dump on most of them, all he has to worry about is strange and RKT. I don't know much about RKT other than him being elder God level but I haven't seen anything to support that

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@reno117 said:

If I knew that man I wouldn't make this thread. When I mean everything, I totally mean EVERYTHING, so yes. I know that he's an elder god level but @darkseid1006 seems to have a different opinion..

If all that is included Dr Strange solos Round 1. And again, RKT solos Round 2 effortlessly.

Really now..?!

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@reno117 said:
@uugieboogie said:
@reno117 said:

If I knew that man I wouldn't make this thread. When I mean everything, I totally mean EVERYTHING, so yes. I know that he's an elder god level but @darkseid1006 seems to have a different opinion..

If all that is included Dr Strange solos Round 1. And again, RKT solos Round 2 effortlessly.

Really now..?!

Do you know that Dr Strange had the black priest and could kill people with words? And you realized RKT was elder god status above Odin? He turned someone into nothing yes really. What feats does Prime have to suggest he can beat that? Spider-Woman has pheromones does he have to suggest he wouldn't be affected by those?

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RKT + SS Strange = win

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RKT + SS Strange = win

Do you even know what Superman Prime means ?!

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@green_skaar said:

RKT + SS Strange = win

Superman Prime has the same beating than against the Teen Titans

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Superman Prime solos!

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RKT and strange should=dead prime

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@green_skaar said:

RKT + SS Strange = win

Do you even know what Superman Prime means ?!

I believe you mean "who he is", and yes I do.

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#22  Edited By HAMMER_OF_J2

Would WB Hulk, Rune King Thor, and Classic Strange take down SmP. If not, team is screwed.

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#23  Edited By juan58diaz

Prime wins round one, but round two might be challenging for him. RKT would have to resort to hand to hand since his magic won't work.

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#24  Edited By rickythanos

Most of the team is one-shotted. Strange, WB Hulk, and RKT pose the biggest problems, but they lose because nobody on the team can kill Prime.

WB Hulk may be stronger than prime (maybe), but can't kill him. In a FAR weaker form, as Superboy prime, he was able to engage (favorably) two powerful versions of Superman at the same time, and in his SMP form, one-shotted MMH and Wonder woman effortlessly. SMP may even get an amp off hulks ambient gama, as he has shown at that he is capable of absorbing at least two different non-yellow sun energies; the Oan energy that gave him his amp, and the Quantum energy that Monarch tried to kill him with.

RKT is more powerful, but again, can't kill Prime. Prime has survived being at the epicenter of a universe-killing blast. RKT is massively powerful, but even if he destroyed the entire universe that they are fighting in (which he has not shown ability to do), Prime would still survive.

Strange's magic is massively strong, but SMP humiliated Mxy, whose magic is just as impressive. He does not have the same weakness to magic that Superman has.

This is a battle to the death, and the list of insane things that SMP has survived (and even tanked in most cases) exceeds any of their abilities.

I won't even get into the feats that can be credited to him once it was revealed that he was the freakin Time Trapper.

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Strange's magic is massively strong, but SMP humiliated Mxy, whose magic is just as impressive. He does not have the same weakness to magic that Superman has.

Couple things. Mxy doesn't use magic, he's a reality warper. Also Mxy was depowered when he was humilated. It doesn't matter if SMP is immune to magic, Strange can summon various demons and beings that SMP will not be immune to.

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@rickythanos said:

Strange's magic is massively strong, but SMP humiliated Mxy, whose magic is just as impressive. He does not have the same weakness to magic that Superman has.

Couple things. Mxy doesn't use magic, he's a reality warper. Also Mxy was depowered when he was humilated. It doesn't matter if SMP is immune to magic, Strange can summon various demons and beings that SMP will not be immune to.

Wouldn't they be magic based? And would those demons be stronger than lanterns? because he tore right through them

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It would be handy to have an actual list of Avengers. I assume we're going by who's in the picture, but "heroic Avengers" could refer to more/others. Prime would backhand most of them to pieces, but as long as he's manhandled for long enough Strange can teleport him to somewhere necessarily hostile. Thor is helpful, but if guys like Sentry and, if he's at World Breaker level, Hulk are on the team then they're helpful, too. Really comes down to Strange dumping him in some horrible magic dimension of impossibly hot magic fire or something.

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@rickythanos said:

Strange's magic is massively strong, but SMP humiliated Mxy, whose magic is just as impressive. He does not have the same weakness to magic that Superman has.

Couple things. Mxy doesn't use magic, he's a reality warper. Also Mxy was depowered when he was humilated. It doesn't matter if SMP is immune to magic, Strange can summon various demons and beings that SMP will not be immune to.

Unless those demons have the capacity to 1-shot a universe, they are not killing him.

Also, re: Mxy - I need to re-read cowntdown, but I'm *pretty sure* that all reference to Mxy being depowered happened AFTER SMP humiliated him. I suspect he was depowered as a result of the beating he took from SMP and being imprisoned on the source wall. If there's no mention of Mxy being depowered *before* SMP crushed him (remember, SMP even inexplicably punched into the fifth dimension to get him), then I don;t think I would buy that SMP defeated a weakened Mxy.

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@green_skaar said:

Couple things. Mxy doesn't use magic, he's a reality warper. Also Mxy was depowered when he was humilated. It doesn't matter if SMP is immune to magic, Strange can summon various demons and beings that SMP will not be immune to.

Wouldn't they be magic based? And would those demons be stronger than lanterns? because he tore right through them

No it wouldn't be magic based. Also Strange can summon beings FAR stronger than lanterns.

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#30  Edited By green_skaar

Unless those demons have the capacity to 1-shot a universe, they are not killing him.

Also, re: Mxy - I need to re-read cowntdown, but I'm *pretty sure* that all reference to Mxy being depowered happened AFTER SMP humiliated him. I suspect he was depowered as a result of the beating he took from SMP and being imprisoned on the source wall. If there's no mention of Mxy being depowered *before* SMP crushed him (remember, SMP even inexplicably punched into the fifth dimension to get him), then I don;t think I would buy that SMP defeated a weakened Mxy.

WTF, so you have to one shot universes to hurt SMP, lol, no.

Mxy was depowered PRIOR to the beast down.

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@rickythanos said:

Unless those demons have the capacity to 1-shot a universe, they are not killing him.

Also, re: Mxy - I need to re-read cowntdown, but I'm *pretty sure* that all reference to Mxy being depowered happened AFTER SMP humiliated him. I suspect he was depowered as a result of the beating he took from SMP and being imprisoned on the source wall. If there's no mention of Mxy being depowered *before* SMP crushed him (remember, SMP even inexplicably punched into the fifth dimension to get him), then I don;t think I would buy that SMP defeated a weakened Mxy.

WTF, so you have to one shot universes to hurt SMP, lol, no.

Mxy was depowered PRIOR to the beast down.

He survived Monarch's explosion, which destroyed a universe

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@green_skaar: who said they have to be universe busters to *hurt* him? This is a fight to the death. They have to KILL him.

With that in mind, yeah, they basically do have to, because he's proven he can survive that kind of stuff, and even that is not a guranteed kill AT ALL.

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Rune King Thor would solo. Given the context of the Runes and the Odin Force, there is no way Prime wins.

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1. Prime: Completely slaughters.

2. Prime: Moderate difficulty ONLY due to RKT.

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@rickythanos: You don't need someone who can one shot a universe to take out Prime. In fact, Prime didn't even withstand a universal explosion. It took a chain reaction for the explosion to destroy the universe, not the explosion itself.

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#36  Edited By Kokemabb200

Dr. Strange solos

RKT solos

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Superman

@reno117 said:

  • No Kryptonite is allowed.

Superman Prime is immune to Kryptonite, the clause is unnecessary.

On-topic, SMP dominates round 1, and takes round 2 with moderate difficulty due to RKT. Unfortunately, this is a bad match-up for RKT due to SMP's magic immunity.

Lets all just remember for a second that this is the same SMP who ran right through the Source Wall, broke into the 5th dimension(somehow), killed every hero on 14 different DC earths, and survived an explosion that wiped out all life in the universe except for him.

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Prime

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Superman

@reno117 said:
  • No Kryptonite is allowed.

Superman Prime is immune to Kryptonite, the clause is unnecessary.

I knew that he was somehow immune but is he sure fully immune..? Sorry but I don't remember that accurately, it's been a long time since I read Superman Prime comics.

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@reno117: fully immune. Only kryptonite from his universe could affect him, and his universe does not exist (so emo)

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