SuperMan-prime vs silver surfer!

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#151  Edited By the creator

SilverSurfa said:

"WEll anyway it doesnt really matter because SS beats prime as creator himself stated."

Yes, I think that the Surfer can win, but there is also a case for Prime winning as well.


Logic Mark III said:

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@ Buckshot: If we bring emotions into it arent we writing a story for them? We could make their emotions serve any bias we want then. What if the Surfer was really pisssed that day? What if Superman Prime took a Kryptonian chill pill? Its stupid. Unless it affects their powers i.e The Sentry turning tinto the Void, Gladiators confidence etc. Anyway, if the Surfer was confronted with a henchmo crybaby like Superman Prime going all out tryna punch his lights out, why wouldnt he get pissed and do some of those terrible things he said he could do?

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Logic, you are right about the attitude. I don't think the Surfer needs to be pissed however as his new mindset is a lot harsher - he's all business now. If he is attacked by Prime, he may hold back briefly but he will move to using his full power very quickly. I do think that he would however use containment attacks first.

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#152  Edited By Hal_Jordan1986
Nighthunter said:
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Apparition says:

"superman prime would win this. this is a much better fight raiden."

don't think prime would win

he isn't that powerfull

"
taking on three guardians of the universe? each could snap prime in half

beating down the am even if he was weakened is still leagues above surfer

stalemating monarch

killing 32 lanterns

prime snaps surfer in half no contest
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#153  Edited By Hal_Jordan1986
Nighthunter said:
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even without it, SS is more powerful than prime

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im sorry dude but

your an idiot
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#154  Edited By SeSAW

Yeah right Surfer would tell prime this before they even fought


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#155  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator
Hal_Jordan1986 said:
"Nighthunter said:
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Apparition says:

"superman prime would win this. this is a much better fight raiden."

don't think prime would win

he isn't that powerfull

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taking on three guardians of the universe? each could snap prime in half

beating down the am even if he was weakened is still leagues above surfer

stalemating monarch

killing 32 lanterns

prime snaps surfer in half no contest"
Besides the Monarch thing...none of those feats are really that great.
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#156  Edited By E Man 4
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any takers! and lets leave the transmuting thing outa this!

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We shouldn't get in the habit of eliminating a power we know a character has just to win a debate. SS can transmute Matter SM can't. Norrin Wins. Even with out it,Norrin wins. The Power cosmic is just too much,Only Thor,Phoenix or the Mystics from Marvel or Dc have a change one one one with Norrin.
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#157  Edited By Vrakmul
E Man 4 said:
"lordraiden said:
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any takers! and lets leave the transmuting thing outa this!

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We shouldn't get in the habit of eliminating a power we know a character has just to win a debate. SS can transmute Matter SM can't. Norrin Wins. Even with out it,Norrin wins. The Power cosmic is just too much,Only Thor,Phoenix or the Mystics from Marvel or Dc have a change one one one with Norrin."
Wrong wrong wrong.   Everyone has Change with Norrin, Unless you mean a Chance.
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#158  Edited By Hal_Jordan1986
Vance Astro said:
"Hal_Jordan1986 said:
"Nighthunter said:
"

Apparition says:

"superman prime would win this. this is a much better fight raiden."

don't think prime would win

he isn't that powerfull

"
taking on three guardians of the universe? each could snap prime in half

beating down the am even if he was weakened is still leagues above surfer

stalemating monarch

killing 32 lanterns

prime snaps surfer in half no contest"
Besides the Monarch thing...none of those feats are really that great."
um three guardians of the universe?

any guardian could kill surfer instantly
prime took on three of them and this was superboy prime

even if he was weakened am is still leagues above galactus

32 lanterns? surfer would have trouble with 1 or 2

but 32 lanterns?

yah these feats prove instantly that surfer would be killed in the blink of an eye
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#159  Edited By Hal_Jordan1986
SeSAW said:
"Yeah right Surfer would tell prime this before they even fought


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prime is many times faster then surfer is

remember guardians am and monarch all have mass energy and matter manipulation

prime would kill surfer before surfer could even think ok turn into red solary energy

surfer dies a horrible death
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#160  Edited By SeSAW

So SBP is faster than Surfer huh I don't think you wanna start that argument dude Surfer is faster than flash I already told you

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#161  Edited By Hal_Jordan1986
SeSAW said:
"So SBP is faster than Surfer huh I don't think you wanna start that argument dude Surfer is faster than flash I already told you"
not on earth he isnt
surfers speed is used mainly when he travels
any flash is faster then surfer on earth

surfer gets beaten down by slower opponents like the hulk and thanos

prime counter blitzed 3 flashes and escaped the speed force so you pretty much fail there

before surfer could even blink
one hit from prime
and surfer is in the after life
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#162  Edited By SeSAW
Hal_Jordan1986 said:
"SeSAW said:
"So SBP is faster than Surfer huh I don't think you wanna start that argument dude Surfer is faster than flash I already told you"
not on earth he isnt
surfers speed is used mainly when he travels
any flash is faster then surfer on earth

surfer gets beaten down by slower opponents like the hulk and thanos

prime counter blitzed 3 flashes and escaped the speed force so you pretty much fail there

before surfer could even blink
one hit from prime
and surfer is in the after life"

proof that im debating with an idiot ^^^^^^





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#163  Edited By Hal_Jordan1986

My turn?

When surfer can evacuate a city in .000001 seconds before a nuke hits it

then will talk

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#164  Edited By Billy

prime

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#165  Edited By Hal_Jordan1986
Billy said:
"prime"
exactly
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#166  Edited By SeSAW

Dude surfer couldve done that as well he faster and youre slower

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#167  Edited By Hal_Jordan1986
SeSAW said:
"Dude surfer couldve done that as well he faster and youre slower"
until you bring me some feats of surfer doing that then you fail
you dont get to make claims on what you think characters can or cant do
either provide proof or get lost
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#168  Edited By spawny

SMP one shots him.  And by the way good luck trying to manipulate SMP's molecules.  And the guardian version of SMP has universal power.  He is a titan.  The entire multiverse is afraid of him. Bottom Line SMP>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Silver Surfer

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#169  Edited By xan84
@SeSAW said:
"Dude surfer couldve done that as well he faster and youre slower "

If you can't post scans of you claims then they are a big 0.
This is a MASIVE curbstomb for SMP.
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#170  Edited By MrDirector786

Superman Prime wins. He's too fast and strong.

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#171  Edited By stevepidge
@Xan:

Surfer Easily. The surfer through the power cosmic can attune his energy to match that of a red sun. After that its gg prime.
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#172  Edited By xan84
@stevepidge said:
"@Xan: Surfer Easily. The surfer through the power cosmic can attune his energy to match that of a red sun. After that its gg prime."

Hell no. Prime is going to KO him way way way before SS even knows the fight has started.
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#173  Edited By stevepidge
@Xan said:
" @stevepidge said:
"@Xan: Surfer Easily. The surfer through the power cosmic can attune his energy to match that of a red sun. After that its gg prime."
Hell no. Prime is going to KO him way way way before SS even knows the fight has started. "

The surfer will "know" he is coming and "know" his weakness before the fight begins. Surfer could even travel to a part of the universe where there is nothing but absolute darkness, and beg prime to follow. Prime cannot one shot the surfer no-way no-how.

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#174  Edited By LubeMan

Hmmm, will have to give thise to the Prime Superman.

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#175  Edited By TruePwnge
@Hal_Jordan1986 said:
" My turn?

When surfer can evacuate a city in .000001 seconds before a nuke hits it

then will talk

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A scan of speed involving Millionths of a second, Micro-Seconds
 that's a Flash feat not Prime feat
Flash Speed>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Prime speed

Flash is fast, nice feat, nice scan

 but compared to Surfer

That's actually slow

Surfer does things in Nano-seconds
IN ONE BILLIONTH of a second, he could shrink the nuke into a microverse so it would be less harmful than a single atom
Surfer could absorb the nuke
could teleport everyone out of there
SS could shut the nuke down techonpathy skills
Surfer could put a shield around the nuke
he could transmute the nuke into an apple


Surfer could pull off that feat easy, AND SAVE THE CITY
and do it quicker than Flash

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This is how Prime dies
Surfer wins

and
its a crbstomp
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#176  Edited By Omg chris

but your forgetting what happened after he got that power up he got punched the hell out of by classic drax but i do agree that surfer wins but it isn't a curbstomp though

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#178  Edited By the creator
@TruePwnge said:

@castleking said:
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This is how Prime diesSurfer winsandits a crbstomp"
Do you want to show me where it says that he absorbs the power of an entire Sun like you have hinted at in another thread ?
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@Static Shock:
Primes aura will protect him from Surfers transmuting abilities. Surfer would first have to get past Superman Primes force field......and Primes dense molecular structure. Prime is basically like Superman....when it comes to his body....expect Prime is also immune to magic and who knows what else he is immune too.  
Question if this could be done easily then why didnt Monarch do this?  
 Next Speed....both Prime and Surfer move at the speed of light. To exceed the speed of light Surfer uses hyperspace! Surfer cannot battle in hyperspace. Surfer cannot out run Prime. Unless he uses hyperspace.  
 Prime beats Surfer easily.......theres nothing Surfer has that can out-power Prime or take Prime out. Prime survived Monarch. Prime as a boy beat the Legion, JLA, anti-monitor, Ion, mxypitlic*, Surfer is out of his league in this fight.
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#180  Edited By MKF30

Prime will ultimately destroy SS here....

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About the red sun issue. Hasnt Prime when he was a boy fly thru a red sun? All that did was slow his powers down. He lived in a RED SUN for god sake. All it did was slow him down. Prime will take Surfer in matter of Seconds. He survived the destruction of a universe, escaped speed force, managed to get out of a Red sun sealed with Kryptontie. Magic does not harm him. Not too many people are unaffected by magic. Prime is one of them. Prime while a boy after he got out of the red sun fought the JLA and beat them.....then fought Ion and beat the snot outta him. Then fights anti-monitor throws him across the universe....then fights both lantern corps by himself. Then manages to kill a guarden of the GL. All that when he was a kid. Were talking about Man prime now.  
 He Killed a JLA, destoryed a planet, beat up mxypitlic ( had him shakin in his boots), beats up a Monitor...having the monitor scared and having to lie to him about his home planet just to get prime away from him. Then Fights Monarch!!! Way above Surfer level. Monarch couldnt even take down SMP.  
 Surfer gets beat in matter of moments.  Superman Prime will do the same to Surfer as he did Manhunter. Snap his neck within 2 seconds of the fight.
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#182  Edited By Assman

When the hell did Prime ever live in a red sun??? That's just crazy lol He was flown through a red sun at the end of Infinite Crisis, by New Earth Superman and Earth 2 Superman, and all three started losing their powers.
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@Assman:
It was at the end of Infinate Crisis. SBP was locked up inside Kryptonite and kept inside a red sun, until the Sinestro wars.  It is very true that after New Earth Superman and Earth 2 Superman flew thru Kryptonite and a Red Sun with SPB they were losing there powers but could still stand up and fight. But all this happened right after SPB got done fighting Superboy, Black Adam, MM, and a dozen or so GL's. Problly more.  
  But yes he was trapped and caged inside a kryptonite cage inside a Red sun and guarded by 50 GL's at all times. All to prevent him from escaping. 
 
Point is that was Superboy Prime....this convo is about Superman Prime. He stood toe to toe with Monarch. Surfer does not have a chance. SMP is too powerful. Surfer is a weakling compared to that kind of power. Surfer wouldnt last 2 minutes in a fight. Surfer is just not powerful enough to win this.
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#184  Edited By GT-Man

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Id give this to prime

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#186  Edited By Assman
@supermandefender said:
"@Assman: It was at the end of Infinate Crisis. SBP was locked up inside Kryptonite and kept inside a red sun, until the Sinestro wars.  It is very true that after New Earth Superman and Earth 2 Superman flew thru Kryptonite and a Red Sun with SPB they were losing there powers but could still stand up and fight. But all this happened right after SPB got done fighting Superboy, Black Adam, MM, and a dozen or so GL's. Problly more.    But yes he was trapped and caged inside a kryptonite cage inside a Red sun and guarded by 50 GL's at all times. All to prevent him from escaping.  Point is that was Superboy Prime....this convo is about Superman Prime. He stood toe to toe with Monarch. Surfer does not have a chance. SMP is too powerful. Surfer is a weakling compared to that kind of power. Surfer wouldnt last 2 minutes in a fight. Surfer is just not powerful enough to win this. "

Um, he was powerless and that's why the GL's were holding him in a cell,  you made it sound like he set up residents in the middle of a red son lol that wasn't his choice, and he was kept there to keep him depowered, that's not really a feat, keeping a powerless teenage boy in a GL cage.  They just didn't want him lose and gaining his powers again.
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#187  Edited By Neon_Nemesis

I'm thinking as of right now, Surfer might be able to win for the same reasons Nate Grey could, even though Prime is powerful, his means of attacking at limited to physical force.
 
Time Trapper Prime vs Current Surfer would of been a better fighter

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#188  Edited By SSJ5_Goku-San

Superman-Prime would take this....

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#189  Edited By morpheus_  Moderator
Considering that the Surfer would more than likely forget his vast array of powers, Prime should take this.
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#190  Edited By Erik
@Morpheus_:  
You have become neutral? I see the powers of good are starting to appeal to you. 
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#191  Edited By morpheus_  Moderator
@erik said:
" @Morpheus_:  You have become neutral? I see the powers of good are starting to appeal to you.  "
Not at all. I change my alliance according to how well it matches the colour of my avatar.
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#192  Edited By Erik
@Morpheus_ said:
" @erik said:
" @Morpheus_:  You have become neutral? I see the powers of good are starting to appeal to you.  "
Not at all. I change my alliance according to how well it matches the colour of my avatar. "
Oh I see. The best villains do not appear as such. 
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#193  Edited By morpheus_  Moderator
@erik said:
" @Morpheus_ said:
" @erik said:
" @Morpheus_:  You have become neutral? I see the powers of good are starting to appeal to you.  "
Not at all. I change my alliance according to how well it matches the colour of my avatar. "
Oh I see. The best villains do not appear as such.  "
We are beyond subtlety at this point. When we do things, it should be with a bang.
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#194  Edited By Erik
@Morpheus_ said: 
We are beyond subtlety at this point. When we do things, it should be with a bang. "
Lol.
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Idc how powerful Prime is, he ain't beaten SS.
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#196  Edited By Primmaster64

Prime.

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#197  Edited By cascadeking09

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#198  Edited By FLCL1
@Fist_of_Mandalore said:
"Idc how powerful Prime is, he ain't beaten SS. "

thanks for letting us know you are closed minded
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Prime. Easily.

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#200  Edited By FinalStar86
@Fist_of_Mandalore said:
" Idc how powerful Prime is, he ain't beaten SS. "
Log off fanboy