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@Frozen said:
Darkseid and Doomsday solo. Adding Thanos and Apocalypse only adds to the slaughter.
........................................... do you know Superman Prime's capabilities?
A weaker version of him (Superboy Prime) was pulling planets, he smashed the reality barrier. He took killed 40 green lanterns, literally took on everyone on Earth.
And he only got stronger and can move around the mutliverse at will.
This weaker version of him took them all on.
That's not Superman Prime, is it? Isn't this Superman Prime? Also, I'm pretty sure Superman Prime and Superboy Prime aren't directly related. Superboy Prime calls himself that because he's the Superboy from Earth Prime. Superman Prime is an alternate version of Superman, (presumably a possible future for New Earth Superman) that was part of the DC One Million project. And he calls himself Superman Prime because he's the most powerful Superman to ever exist, and the head of the Superman Dynasty. And I'm pretty sure no DC character except The Presence can beat him.
@PossesedShadow said:
@Frozen said:
Darkseid and Doomsday solo. Adding Thanos and Apocalypse only adds to the slaughter.
........................................... do you know Superman Prime's capabilities?
A weaker version of him (Superboy Prime) was pulling planets, he smashed the reality barrier. He took killed 40 green lanterns, literally took on everyone on Earth.
And he only got stronger and can move around the mutliverse at will.
This weaker version of him took them all on.
Yes. I know exactly who he is, and he's extremely inconsistent. Did you not see his return in Teen Titans? I can't exactly remember the Planet feat, but all his best showings are in Infinite Crisis. And that's purely because DC wanted to make some changes, those Lanterns btw were featless. If you read Infinite Crisis, you'd see that Martian Manhunter read his mind to see where he was going. He's vulnerable to Telepathy, also, the reality feat is overrated. We can't quantify it.
This is a total mismatch.
@Frozen:
Superman has beaten Darkseid many times. Even put him on the Source Wall.
Superman Prime solo'd everyone and beat Superman easily.
This isn't mismatchy as you think.
@PossesedShadow said:
@Frozen said:
Darkseid and Doomsday solo. Adding Thanos and Apocalypse only adds to the slaughter.
........................................... do you know Superman Prime's capabilities?
A weaker version of him (Superboy Prime) was pulling planets, he smashed the reality barrier. He took killed 40 green lanterns, literally took on everyone on Earth.
And he only got stronger and can move around the mutliverse at will.
This weaker version of him took them all on.
When did Superboy-Prime pull a planet?
@Lone_Wolf_and_Cub said:
Every member of the team can take Prime solo except for Apoc. Team decimates prime.
Yea Superman can beat Darkseid multiple times, but an amped up no morals Superman that took on Kyrptonians, GL's and metahumans alike can't beat him.
Good work
@Frozen said:
Darkseid and Doomsday solo. Adding Thanos and Apocalypse only adds to the slaughter.
doomsday for sure is not. SuperBOY Prime took on 2 supermen, gave them a hard fight, and killed one of them. Doomsday took on the same 2 supermen and got dropped like a sack of bricks in no time.
SMPs best feats are in Countdown, not Infinite crisis. he one shots alternate earth Zod, Martian Manhunter, and Wonder Woman, destroys the earth with little effort, literally stomps Mxy, and gives Monarch a good fight.
Telepathy may be a way to take him, but Thanos is the only one who could do it, and he doesn't use telepathy on his enemies very often, and i don't think i've ever seen Apocalypse use it in a fight.
I'm pretty sure the Titans feat you are referring to was after he lost the Oan power up.
@Lone_Wolf_and_Cub said:
Superman taking Darkseid is pure PIS. Darkseid would take on the JLA an win.
Superman has beaten or stalemated Darkseid often enough for that to reliably be considered Darkseid's normal power level. There is no way DS is taking on a full Justice League unless it is only a roster of B-listers.
The biggest threat here is Thanos, because of high durability plus high TP, and even then, I'm not sure how many hits he could actually take.
The team still wins but Superman Prime doesn't go down with a fight
@Frozen: No, he's moved an actual planet(s). Bottom left scan.
@Frozen said:
@Deranged Midget: My bad. I'll read Infinite Crisis again tonight, though I do still think it's a stomp. It'd be fairer if it was Superman Prime vs Thanos and Apocalypse, he's just completely overwhelmed here.
Indeed he is. He has the power to take on each opponent in single combat, but not together as a team and especially without morals. He'll be able to take out Apocalypse as he's the weak link of the group but H/P Doomsday is easily the power-house.
@Deranged Midget said:
@Frozen said:
@Deranged Midget: My bad. I'll read Infinite Crisis again tonight, though I do still think it's a stomp. It'd be fairer if it was Superman Prime vs Thanos and Apocalypse, he's just completely overwhelmed here.
Indeed he is. He has the power to take on each opponent in single combat, but not together as a team and especially without morals. He'll be able to take out Apocalypse as he's the weak link of the group but H/P Doomsday is easily the power-house.
I agree, Apocalypse get's stomped. I still wished that they didn't kill off GA Superman though in Infinite Crisis. Everyone else cared about Superboy except me, I'd rather have GA Superman alive over Kon-El.
@Frozen: Earth-2 Superman was a fantastic character but the entire event of Infinite Crisis lead up to the creation of the single Earth and it was for a purpose.
@Deranged Midget said:
@Frozen: Earth-2 Superman was a fantastic character but the entire event of Infinite Crisis lead up to the creation of the single Earth and it was for a purpose.
I agree that it was needed. But the Superman from Action Comics #1 dying, was just too hard for me. People don't know the significance of the Earth 2 Superman.
@Frozen said:
@PossesedShadow said:
@Frozen:
Superman has beaten Darkseid many times. Even put him on the Source Wall.
Superman Prime solo'd everyone and beat Superman easily.
This isn't mismatchy as you think.
It's been explained many times that Superman beating Darkseid is PIS.
DC can't function without PIS
It's worth nothing that Prime is susceptible to telepathy. Manhunter read his mind in Infinite Crisis (whilst Prime was flying actually) without too much trouble, Prime did not even notice the telepathy. Thanos could utilize his telepathy if need be, while the others slow him down.
@frozen: Reading a mind is different from dropping someone with the mental whammy.
@frozen: Reading a mind is different from dropping someone with the mental whammy.
When has Superboy Prime showed telepathic resistance?
@frozen: Why didn't Martian Manhunter drop him with telepathy if it were that easy?
I say Superman-Prime takes this with minimal difficulty to be honest. Thanos is last to fall, but Prime is the physically strongest guy here and speed kills.
@kingant27: That's really underselling Superman-Prime now, c'mon.
@frozen: Why didn't Martian Manhunter drop him with telepathy if it were that easy?
I say Superman-Prime takes this with minimal difficulty to be honest. Thanos is last to fall, but Prime is the physically strongest guy here and speed kills.
Initially, Manhunter misidentified Prime as Superman and it cost him. After that, he already had heroes flying after him and were ready to get Prime so there was no need. It was also due to the plot, because Kal-L would die to the hands of Prime shortly after.
No he doesn't. Prime would still be slowed down by various members of the team, leaving Thanos open to use his telepathy.
@kingant27: ... Doomsday wishes he was as strong as Prime.
@tifalockhart: H/P Doomsday is comparable to Prime. He can adapt.
@frozen: Prime may be a copycat but he did it better.
@frozen: Why didn't Martian Manhunter drop him with telepathy if it were that easy?
I say Superman-Prime takes this with minimal difficulty to be honest. Thanos is last to fall, but Prime is the physically strongest guy here and speed kills.
You can't be seriously trying to say that Prime won't be dropped with telepathy because Martian Manhunter didn't try to do the same thing.
@dondave: Why not? Prove Martian Manhunter can drop Prime with telepathy. You made the claim, I never actually said he couldn't.
@dondave: Why not? Prove Martian Manhunter can drop Prime with telepathy. You made the claim, I never actually said he couldn't.
He already mind-read him to find out where he was going. In their original encounter, he confused Prime for the Superman he knew, so was attacked. Prime did not even know he was being mind-read when Martian mind-read him. So he is definitely susceptible to telepathy. I've already stated why he didn't mind-drop him.
@dondave: Why not? Prove Martian Manhunter can drop Prime with telepathy. You made the claim, I never actually said he couldn't.
J'onn doesn't normally drop people with telepathy, he doesn't even like entering people's mind in the first place. He's as close as to a pacifist you could get while being a Superhero. As long as Prime doesn't have any feats let alone Hyperbole to suggest he couldn't be dropped by TP, you can't just infer that it won't work because Martian Manhunter didn't try to do so. Unless of course you want to suggest that every person that J'onn didn't drop with TP won't be susceptible to it.
Thanos is too much for him @dondave:
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