Both Bloodlust
Hakumen gets first move and 45 minutes to prepare it
Superman stands and allows himself to get hit by said move.
Who takes this
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Both Bloodlust
Hakumen gets first move and 45 minutes to prepare it
Superman stands and allows himself to get hit by said move.
Who takes this
VS
Usually Superman would curbstomp Hakumen, but you gave Hakumen the first move. Hakumen uses "Time Killer" and erases superman from existence. Spite
Usually Superman would curbstomp Hakumen, but you gave Hakumen the first move. Hakumen uses "Time Killer" and erases superman from existence. Spite
No, Prime stomps him either way. This version of Superman can't be erased from time or destroyed. Even twhen Prime "Killed himself" by attacking time tapper, all that happened was he was sent back to another version of existence. Same thing happened when Prime caused the universe to be destroyed. He just reappears somewhere else.
@bossmonster: Hakumen's "Time Killer" ability is able to erase anyone that has time, whether they be immortal or not. It has even killed immortal beings in his universe. The way it works, is if the person percieves any sort of time, than they can be erased. We have to use the rules of both universes to be fair. Saying prime cant be erased by anything is like saying The Presence or Pre retcon beyonder cant erase him. Time trapper has the ability to control time and different timelines. However, the ability of hakumen's Susanoo allows him to actually destroy time.
@trueking95: It's not about being immortal. It's about the fact that since he doesn't fit in any existing universe, he doesn't fit in any timeline.
One of the extremely rare instances where a Blazblue character is put into a thread... and it's a mismatch.
@ztundra: Its not the fact that he doesnt fit in timeline, its the fact that he has time in him. Say if a person had 50 more years to live. "Time Killer" would simply destroy that time. Even immortals have time even though its "infinite" time. It involves personal time, kinda like how Zoom is fast because he manipulates his own personal time. Time Killer erases personal time.
@trueking95: which superman is immune to. after absorbing the guardians power, he became immune to this sort of thing, as even the likes of May could not harm him. why does it not work? simply because superman is much higher in power, and anything below universal can not harm this guy. wait, even universal monarchs death blast did not harm him, and it destroyed the universe.
@baron_von_santa: Hakumen's attacks are dimensional though. He can tear holes in the dimension......... Dimensional>Universal . Also Hakumens Nox Nyctores, Ookami negates all forms of ars magus (Which is basically energy), his zanshin allows him to auto project energy shields that repel any enemy attack. Again so what you're saying is that SMP cant be erased period? Even by the likes of people like TOAA, Beyonder, Presence?(Not comparing Hakumen vs Presence)
@one_above_all_fan: Wait is this 100% hakumen or the 20% power one from most of Blazblue?
@trueking95: he for holes in the dimension, and just because he did that you think he can beat superman. superman survived the destruction of a universe. tearing a hole in a dimension < destroying the whole universe.
Again so what you're saying is that SMP cant be erased period? Even by the likes of people like TOAA, Beyonder, Presence?(Not comparing Hakumen vs Presence)
if you are not comparing, why ask that irrelevant question?
@trueking95: he for holes in the dimension, and just because he did that you think he can beat superman. superman survived the destruction of a universe. tearing a hole in a dimension < destroying the whole universe.
Again so what you're saying is that SMP cant be erased period? Even by the likes of people like TOAA, Beyonder, Presence?(Not comparing Hakumen vs Presence)
if you are not comparing, why ask that irrelevant question?
I think he was saying that they fundamentally have the same power of erasing someones existence. Which is true, If going by blazblue feats and 100% power Hakumen could literally destroy all of time and reality, which would be a spite. I think Im just gonna make this Hakumen 70% power and add Hazama in there. Btw Fight to the death or erase or whatever.
@one_above_all_fan: erasing has different levels, or else anyone who can do that is automatically omnipotent. he could? what are his best feats?
@baron_von_santa: As the OP said Hakumen is possesses dimensional level equipment, and durability means nothing against haxx powers such as this. The OP is right when he said i was saying that they have that 1 power in common, the ability to actually destroy time, Hakumen cant use this power whenever he once though, he has to charge it up and it physically takes a tole on him whenever he uses this power. He can destroy all time, everywhere, at anytime.
1. I did not say physical durability would help, he is immune to reality warping and magic, and you have to prove hakumens power > mxy's.
2. here at comic vine, we use feats, not what COULD be done, but what has been.
@trueking95: he for holes in the dimension, and just because he did that you think he can beat superman. superman survived the destruction of a universe. tearing a hole in a dimension < destroying the whole universe.
Again so what you're saying is that SMP cant be erased period? Even by the likes of people like TOAA, Beyonder, Presence?(Not comparing Hakumen vs Presence)
if you are not comparing, why ask that irrelevant question?
I think he was saying that they fundamentally have the same power of erasing someones existence. Which is true, If going by blazblue feats and 100% power Hakumen could literally destroy all of time and reality, which would be a spite. I think Im just gonna make this Hakumen 70% power and add Hazama in there. Btw Fight to the death or erase or whatever.
Adding Terumi is waaaaaayy worse. A spirit whose very essence drains life from people around him. SMP gets fodderized. Well, Im assuming he is in his spirit form.
@one_above_all_fan: erasing has different levels, or else anyone who can do that is automatically omnipotent. he could? what are his best feats?
Strongest member of the 6 heroes. He erased the black beast, who was going to planet by planet destroy the universe. He defeated death in a fight. He used his sword to destroy and rewrite time on a reality level to stop an infinite 'time loop' that was created by Hazama. He is bonded to the Susano'o unit armor which is "the destroyer of time", in the universe there are 3 units: Amaterasu Unit: Complete control over all, Susano'o unit: Destroyer of time, Tsukiyomi: Protector of time. He also has a sword named Okami in which he chooses to channel this power through, it also destroys all forms of energy, cannot be destroyed, and is bonded with Hakumen's soul. He is able to utilize "The Order". The Order is known to give the bearer the ability to destroy phenomena and resist phenomena intervention, he can even increase his power indefinitely, the drawback is that it comes from the ability to hold true to one's convictions no matter what. But this doesnt seem to be a problem considering Hakumen seems to have a willpower on par with hal jordan. Put it this way, hakumen was supposedly just a legend, but they brought him back to the future. However when they brought him to the future they could only give him 20% of his power. Which is still enough to dominate most of the characters in the series.
@trueking95: so the most powerful being he erased is planetary?
I just realized this is spite. I apologize on behalf. But the team would curbstomp SMP, but if SMP was allowed to speedblitz than he could beat hakumen but not hazama as physical attacks can hurt hazama. Please lock this @god_spawn, I'm sorry for this. @trueking95 yes i was refering to his spirit form.
@baron_von_santa: Most powerful is erasing time throughout all reality, and rewriting it. Because it became an infinite loop of reoccurring events.
universal time manipulation, okay then, I do not see how supes is winning this one. @trueking95:
@god_spawn Lock this? OP even requested it
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