Who wins?
Superman Prime DC One Million vs Mr. Mxyzptlk
WF Mxy wins with ease. Prime wins over the other incarnations especially the weakened one that Superman(boy) Prime owned.
i dont know who this superman prime one million is bu i will assume its superman prime alive in the one million world.
prime wins .in countdown to final crisis prime had mxyzptlk as a prisoner with mxyzptlk unable to do anything to hurt prime or get away from him.
superman prime 1 million is basically a superman who had moved around the universe for nearly 700,000 years learning new powers including from the sourcewall/source than enhanced his descendants powers to incredible levels (kal kent for example), than went and lived in a supersun for 150,000 years greatly enhancing his powers again, he displayed high end reality warping, controlling the sun, power amping a green lantern ring to unnatural levels, molecular manipulation, being a energy being changing his skin colour costume etc... lots and lots of powers no one notices and sais he never displayed any but o well he still showed high level reality warping and mentioned he could of saved a universe from being destroyed if he was fast enough to but the thing is he could off which shows universal reality warping and such and im not sure how powerful Mxy's is but when the joker had his powers he had universal destroying power but i think it took a bit of a time to do though i cant be sure on that. So ye dont listen to what people say about him he displayed alot of massive feats just no one noticed. Oh the high level reality warping would of most likely came from the 5th dimension power from his descendants
"i dont know who this superman prime one million is bu i will assume its superman prime alive in the one million world. prime wins .in countdown to final crisis prime had mxyzptlk as a prisoner with mxyzptlk unable to do anything to hurt prime or get away from him. "
Its golden superman from the mid 90's crossover,he wins cause he has all his regular stats boosted by a million or so years of sundipping,some power of the source,the last green lantern ring,5D power(just like mxy) he got it when one of his descendants married an imp,mxy gets raped.
" i dont know who this superman prime one million is bu i will assume its superman prime alive in the one million world. prime wins .in countdown to final crisis prime had mxyzptlk as a prisoner with mxyzptlk unable to do anything to hurt prime or get away from him. "But Prime 1 Million has no feats.. Ehehehe!
@kcaz:No. But he has a relative who has. In 67th century, one of his relative married the queen of 5th dimension and produced an off-spring.
Superman prime one million : He's Not Featless
To begin with you must look at the source and the beginning. How did Superman
Prime come to be?
Quoting sources from the Superman Prime wiki and the official comic i can
explain that.
"The legend began in the last years of the second millennium anno Domini with
a birth not of this Earth. That child was Kal-El of Krypton, the sole survivor
of a cataclysm that destroyed one of the most advanced and ancient civilizations
in the galaxy. Kal-El was raised as a normal human child by the Kansas farmers
Jonathan Kent and Martha Kent. It was their love and care that would transform
one of the world's most powerful individuals from the product of a cold alien
civilization into one of the most noble and charismatic men alive. Under the
Earth-name of Clark Kent he was a reporter for the Metropolis Daily Planet where
he worked with his future wife Lois Lane. Kal-El is however more widely known by
the name, Superman. It was as the costumed "super-hero" Superman (an identity designed to preserve his privacy as Clark Kent and to protect his adopted family) that Kal-El had his biggest impact. He was the leader of Earth's superhuman (and
often much of the human) community and served as the role model that all
subsequent heroes were measured by. In his career he saved the world from the
threats of interstellar invasion, natural disaster and the continued activities
of a cadre of "super-villains" (including the original, the early Bizarros and
the sentient anti-sun Solaris). During this time Superman rose to the height of
his activities, married his beloved Lois Lane, served as leader to the Justice
League and acted as mentor to a new generation of heroes. The vast Kryptonian powers that served to make him Superman also made Kal-El
virtually immortal. He would watch as he out lived his parents, then his friends
and then even his wife Lois. Still serving as the world's foremost champion he
began to slow as the sadness of the losses began to mount. Legend then tells how
close to the end of the twenty first century, Superman Prime (as history will
remember as Kal-El) passed the responsibilities of being Superman to his heir,
Superman Secundus, and created the Superman Dynasty. Then one day he left
Earth.
The Return to His travels lasted from the 21st Century, and ended somewhere
at the turn of the 700th Century. During his travels, he acquired vast abilities
and skills from every being he meet and gained perfection over all the abilities
he received (when he broke through the Source Wall he even studied under the
Source itself, meaning he could have a portion of the Source's power or more,
the true extent of abilities he received from the Source are unknown). When he
returned he forged a covenant with his descendants, he would bestow upon them a
small fraction of his power as long as they served for truth and justice. He
also gained the abilities of his lineage and magnified them with his own power
(for example, the Superman of the 67th century married the queen of the 5th
Dimension, GZNTPLZK, which in turn gave Superman Prime the abilities and powers
of a 5th Dimension Imp). After the covenant he left and returned to his fortress
of solitude in the center of the Super Sun."
First off, Superman Prime powers have come into question by some people, some of which doubt the power he possesses, here are some common critiques.
"Superman Prime couldn't even bring Lois Lane back without her DNA."
This in not true, Superman Prime was fully able to bring back Lois Lane without her DNA. He just needed it to put her into a god like body like himself. He later proves this by recreating all of planet Krypton and its inhabitants with only a Rock.
Also you may ask, "But still, doesnt this prove that he couldnt recreate something out of nothingness?" Fair enough, but i must remind you that this is when he first used his newfound powers, which probably means he was getting used to them. He proves different later on.
Other Criticism and skepticism includes
"Why did Superman need to use the Green Lantern Ring to defeat Solaris?"
Short Answer no. Solaris was already extremely weakened and therefore it is extremely possible that Superman didnt want to waste any Solar power that he didnt need to. Plus on top of the fact that the Green Lantern in the most powerful Weapon and the Universe and that the strongest of willpower can use its power to "shape reality" i definitely wouldn't put this thing at a low level.
And last but no least on the criticism is that
"Superman Prime doesnt have any feats back up his supposed Omnipotence"
This is where i can somewhat agree, but thats what the next portion of this list is gonna show.
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FEATS AND FACTS
First we have to talk about how Superman Prime came to be and where he got all of his extra powers from. Surely 15,000 years in the Sun wouldnt make him a Universal or even Mutiversal level character. For that we have to look at his power sources.
First, The 5th Dimension
For those of you that dont know, the 5th Dimensional Imps, are Imps... from the 5th Dimension... go figure. They are beings with extreme power at their disposal that put them above nearly all cosmic beings in the Multiverse. They have shown to be able to destroy dimensions by laughing and creeating entire Universes by snapping their fingers. They surely have a lot of power under their belt. But what does this have to do with Superman Primes power.
Simple, this is where one of his main power sources come from. You see one of Supermans descendants actually married the Queen of the 5th Dimensional imps and not only was able to have the lineage of Superman having some 5th Dimensional powers, as mentioned here.
In fact every a descendant of Superman from this gained 5th Dimensional imp powers, and one Superman WAS a 5th Dimensional Imp
But also gave much of the Superman lineage afterwards immunity to Magic
>Also Mxy, the Multiversal level god who did all that crazy shit? He worked for Superman Prime later on<
Seeing how powerful 5th Dimensional imps are, the fact that not only was Superman given a lot of their powers but also the fact that a 5th Dimensional imp actualy looks up to Superman means a lot. Look up Worlds Funnest for reference to how powerful they are.
This alone could give evidence to Superman Prime being majorly cosmic in power and control, but there still a lot of space left to go.
2.) The Source Wall
Superman mentions in one of his tales that he "Crashed the Gates of Heaven" to find all the answers.
He also mentions that he went to the edge of the Multiverse and Back, this could mean only one thing. He went into the Source Wall
What is the Source Wall you ask? Simple, it is the wall that is supposed to separate the creator of all Reality with the Multiverse at large. It s set towards the edge of the Universe (New Earth) and is beyond the Promethea Galaxy. It isnt all to hard to access, as several have done before to gain its amazing power, that of which is beyond all others in the Multiverse, but at a terrible cist. Noone has ever reached the Source Wall itself and lived to leave, not even majorly god level beings. Only 2 have ever in DC managed to do it. Well get to the other one later.
The fact remains that Superman Prime apparentley not only got into the Source Wall, which isnt that hard, but escaped with his life and apparently some of the power and knowledge of it. This is extremely impressive and does prove that Superman could be omnipotent. Why?
THIS
This is a scan of the Spectre after he had entered and absorbed some of the power of the Source. It made him powerful enough to become one with billions of Universe and such and made him almost one with The Presence. This alone proves that if Superman Prime actually entered into the Source Wall, and broke out with a fraction of the power as with the Spectre. Than that would put him on a cosmic scale, FAR above that of even the 5th Dimensional imp powers.
It is most likely that Superman Prime trained under the Source and acquired some if its powers in his thousands of yeas away, it was also what occupied his time for the most of it. This would mean that he had used this power to explore the Universe and save billions of lives. How do i know this?
This is basically as far as i need to go to prove that Superman Prime is not just Superman that spent 15,000 years in the Sun and came up Universal Level. Theres a lot more to it than that.
But i feel that i should show some more feats and such and explain why Superman Prime is considered so OP as hell.
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OTHER FEATS
The most famous feat that shows how powerful Superman Prime is is this one
This scan basically explains 2 things
1.) Superman Prime apparently made his own Universe.
2.) Superman Prime could also stop Universes from collapsing and save lives.
Now there are thise who would say that, "Well just because he said MY Universe doesnt mean its his" Well that is debateable, but still the overemphasis on MY does leave some questions, i wouldnt say My Earth if i didnt have something in direct affiliation with it, but the way he said MY was that he either owned it or had direct control over it, again, both are direct possibilites.
The thing however that makes this scan count is what Superman Prime says afterwards "Things were moving so fast even I couldnt stop your reality from collapsing" This basically proves that Superman Prime states he can stop a Universe from collapsing which in turn could mean that he could do more like rebuild or recreate. This scan however is the only one whee i seems this direct comparison is made, since there us no scan of Superman affecting Multiverses or anything badass as that, though the nonchalant way he says how he could stop realities means he could do more... but again thats based on the Power Sources and some speculation.
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CONCLUSION
Sorry this wasnt as long and as informative as some would like, but that mainly boils down to the fact that Superman Prime hasnt done all to much despite his great power, which i can understand. A lot of people dont want to see and even more OP version of Superman than already exists, so DC only uses him for the future. That and Superman Prime probably has his hands full battlig demons and evil gods somewhere in the future, and knows that any threat that happens in the past he and the Justice Leagues past selves cant fix.So theres no reason to but in in situations that dont need him.
If you dont like him i can understand, he is extremely overpowered and may seem like a boring character in comparison to Superman. But in the end, he still is Superman. He isnt a egomaniac that doesnt care for the Universe, he is still the man that protected the Universe countless times and probably protects the Multiverse for eons to come. He still remembers his roots and understands what life means. If you want proof of this look no further
(For those who can't read the last few Panels
There you go)
This Scan proves that no matter what, Superman will always remember who he is and remember the ones closest to him. Thats what makes him special, thats what makes him powerful
Thats What Makes him Superman.
» Source: http://superman.wikia.com/wiki/Superman_Prime
Mxy Worked For SPOM later Cuz he respecte him and Why they would fight :l
@thebestofthebest: Explain to these dumba** Marvel tards . good scans BTW
@bee14ish: Dude that Was 3 month Ago Lol . According to what Grant morrison said .. It's True But He's Featless and Overrated :) .
@bee14ish: Dude that Was 3 month Ago Lol . According to what Grant morrison said .. It's True But He's Featless and Overrated :) .
Can't let people keep spreading all the crap about 1 Million. :P
But in all honesty, I was pretty sleepy when posting, so I didn't have the greatest awareness. My bad.
Supes needed help from Mxy in order to resurrect Lois, which is one of the only few feats Supes 1million has.
And considering both Mxy and classic Supes feats alone, I think it's safe to say Mxy takes the win handily.
Actually, it was Lzyxm Ltpkz who helped him. Plus, Superman also needed DNA.
Supes needed help from Mxy in order to resurrect Lois, which is one of the only few feats Supes 1million has.
And considering both Mxy and classic Supes feats alone, I think it's safe to say Mxy takes the win handily.
Actually, it was Lzyxm Ltpkz who helped him. Plus, Superman also needed DNA.
Oh right my bad, thanks. I have only seen the scans of superman 1 million feats and discussions. I got confused with the names. Makes much more sense why Lzyxm Ltpkz would help supes 1million as he is the future superman, not the michievious imp.
I am enlightened, haha.
Well either way. Mxy has already messed with Supes so many times in the past and without ever being truly mean-spirited about it. If Mxy was actually serious about it, I don't think supes could do much against that level of reality altering powers.
And yes, Supes 1million still needed help either way to complete this feat as well a
@bee14ish: It's okey man ^^
@shenlong: Superman never went through the Source Wall, nor did he study in it, nor did he gain any powers from it.
What great god like feats has superman 1 million done ? Mxy takes this 1 million is overrated.
This guy gets it. He has no feats.
@mysticmedivh: lol gold superman couldn't even remake Lois without dna
@kcaz: Nope
Shit like Prime One Mil shouldn't be on this forum. We really don't know the extent of his power and what he is truly capable of. You can argue that he's 5th dimensional, omnipotent, etc. but we will never know. The comics weren't too specific on what his powers are but we know that he recreated his dead wife and made his own universe. Mxy vs Prime One Mil feels like who can blink the other out of existence faster. But, then again, we'll never know if Prime One Mil can even go that far. It's safer to say Supes loses due to lack of evidence.
Mxy wins. Mxy can minipulate time. With a snap of his fingers, BAM, Superman Prime One Million is banished from existence. Just because super man prime one million got new feats by the sun for 150,000 years, Mxy is like Time Father. He can banish Superman prime.
Any version of Mxy blinks him out of existence, heck, even Earth 2 Mxy that got pwned by Magog would blink him out of existence without even realising his existence.
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