New-52
No telepathy
No BFR
Battle on Jupiter starting 20 miles apart
@reaverlation: Good thing I restricted TP then lol
I dont see them beating Hel he is too powerful . Even with out TP . Telekinesis and DNA rearranging and then some . I see martian and superman going down .
Anyone got any good reads for H'el? I was going to say without telepathy J'onn would be too much especially with Superman for backup but a lot of people are saying He'l is too powerful. I need to read up on this guy.
Yes Hel is that Powerful . You can look up his respect thread or just buy or read the comics . Either one or just look at his power set on here . HE can manipulate time as well if i recall correctly
Anyone got any good reads for H'el? I was going to say without telepathy J'onn would be too much especially with Superman for backup but a lot of people are saying He'l is too powerful. I need to read up on this guy.
Yes Hel is that Powerful . You can look up his respect thread or just buy or read the comics . Either one or just look at his power set on here . HE can manipulate time as well if i recall correctly
Thought time manipulation was based on tech and functioned as a plot device. He needed to destroy the world to get enough power to do it.
H'El. Teleports J'onn into the sun before he can react. Then he just TK slams Superman into submission.
What makes H'El so dangerous is his presence concealment. He teleports behind Superman and Superman can't even tell if he's teleported or just moved so fast that he couldn't perceive it. Then H'El slams him from behind.
Juke, honestly all of H'El's appearances are the story arcs H'El on Earth, Krypton Returns, and New 52's Superman 23.3. Though honestly speaking... they were all written by Scott Lobdell who is a a VERY hit or miss writer. Unfortunately all of his work on H'El is generally considered an abysmal miss.
I was particularly annoyed at how pathetically he portrays Supergirl as a pining idiot girl instead of the intelligent badass shown in her non-tie in solo title.
@laidblack: Any reason how the team beats H'El when he has better reaction speed, presence concealment, and enough power with TK to incapacitate both of them simultaneously without any strain whatsoever?
Or, you know, miniaturizes them and then heat visions them? Or teleports them into a red sun?
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