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#1 Posted by angryvigilante (1448 posts) - - Show Bio

Takes place in Metropolis. No prep. Bloodlust. Start 100 yards away.

#2 Posted by angryvigilante (1448 posts) - - Show Bio

No opinions?

#3 Posted by ComicMan24 (147032 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman vs Martian Manhunter
Hal Jordan vs Flash - Not sure

#4 Posted by Sexy Merc (42066 posts) - - Show Bio

Probably team 2

#5 Posted by primepower53 (5686 posts) - - Show Bio
@Sexy Merc said:
"Probably team 2 "
#6 Posted by buttersdaman000 (9298 posts) - - Show Bio
@ComicMan24 said:
" Superman vs Martian Manhunter Hal Jordan vs Flash - Not sure "
ehh i say superman beats martian manhunter
 
but sadly team 2 wins cuz flash cannot lose.ever.
#7 Posted by angryvigilante (1448 posts) - - Show Bio

I was betting on team 1

#8 Posted by Stronger (4948 posts) - - Show Bio

Team 1 barely.

#9 Edited by super_psycho (2792 posts) - - Show Bio

Team 2 stomps

#10 Posted by Stronger (4948 posts) - - Show Bio

@super_psycho said:

Team 2 stomps

It is definatelly not a stomp.

I can see team 2 win but not in a stomp for sure.

#11 Posted by super_psycho (2792 posts) - - Show Bio

@Stronger said:

@super_psycho said:

Team 2 stomps

It is definatelly not a stomp.

I can see team 2 win but not in a stomp for sure.

Nope.. Team 2 stomps

#12 Posted by Stronger (4948 posts) - - Show Bio

@super_psycho said:

@Stronger said:

@super_psycho said:

Team 2 stomps

It is definatelly not a stomp.

I can see team 2 win but not in a stomp for sure.

Nope.. Team 2 stomps

How?

#13 Posted by super_psycho (2792 posts) - - Show Bio

@Stronger said:

@super_psycho said:

@Stronger said:

@super_psycho said:

Team 2 stomps

It is definatelly not a stomp.

I can see team 2 win but not in a stomp for sure.

Nope.. Team 2 stomps

How?

Since they are bloodlusted so no one is going to hold back ..

Barry or wally would beat down supes with little effort or steal his speed..Martian manhunter is on par with superman when it comes to strength and speed plus he has other abilities..

Hal would get creamed here.

#14 Posted by PrinceIMC (5421 posts) - - Show Bio

I've gotta go with team 2. MM immediately goes invisible and phases and attacks Supes with telepathy, and Flash has shown he's able to move faster than GL and even vibrate through or break Hal's constructs.

#15 Posted by Stronger (4948 posts) - - Show Bio

@super_psycho said:

@Stronger said:

@super_psycho said:

@Stronger said:

@super_psycho said:

Team 2 stomps

It is definatelly not a stomp.

I can see team 2 win but not in a stomp for sure.

Nope.. Team 2 stomps

How?

Since they are bloodlusted so no one is going to hold back ..

Barry or wally would beat down supes with little effort or steal his speed..Martian manhunter is on par with superman when it comes to strength and speed plus he has other abilities..

Hal would get creamed here.

I dont think a bloodlusted Superman is so easy to defeat.Indeed Flash is very powerful but he is a bit overrated.

Martian Manhunter is maybe the most powerful here but he has one great weakness.Fire.

Hal can just think of fire and take him out.

Well I dont say team one wins,but team 2 doesnt stomp for sure.

#16 Posted by super_psycho (2792 posts) - - Show Bio

@Stronger said:

@super_psycho said:

@Stronger said:

@super_psycho said:

@Stronger said:

@super_psycho said:

Team 2 stomps

It is definatelly not a stomp.

I can see team 2 win but not in a stomp for sure.

Nope.. Team 2 stomps

How?

Since they are bloodlusted so no one is going to hold back ..

Barry or wally would beat down supes with little effort or steal his speed..Martian manhunter is on par with superman when it comes to strength and speed plus he has other abilities..

Hal would get creamed here.

I dont think a bloodlusted Superman is so easy to defeat.Indeed Flash is very powerful but he is a bit overrated.

Martian Manhunter is maybe the most powerful here but he has one great weakness.Fire.

Hal can just think of fire and take him out.

Well I dont say team one wins,but team 2 doesnt stomp for sure.

Flash can still take down superman

Martian manhunter doesn't have that weakness anymore and martian is too fast for hal

He will be taken out before he can do anything

Team 2 stomps

#17 Posted by Stronger (4948 posts) - - Show Bio

@super_psycho said:

@Stronger said:

@super_psycho said:

@Stronger said:

@super_psycho said:

@Stronger said:

@super_psycho said:

Team 2 stomps

It is definatelly not a stomp.

I can see team 2 win but not in a stomp for sure.

Nope.. Team 2 stomps

How?

Since they are bloodlusted so no one is going to hold back ..

Barry or wally would beat down supes with little effort or steal his speed..Martian manhunter is on par with superman when it comes to strength and speed plus he has other abilities..

Hal would get creamed here.

I dont think a bloodlusted Superman is so easy to defeat.Indeed Flash is very powerful but he is a bit overrated.

Martian Manhunter is maybe the most powerful here but he has one great weakness.Fire.

Hal can just think of fire and take him out.

Well I dont say team one wins,but team 2 doesnt stomp for sure.

Flash can still take down superman

Martian manhunter doesn't have that weakness anymore and martian is too fast for hal

He will be taken out before he can do anything

Team 2 stomps

Who told you Martian Manhunter isnt afraid of fire.Hals fire is psychic fire and that is the point.I dont think Manhunter moves faster than Hal thinks.

Superman holds back in all of his battles and he still wins most.If its a bloodlusted Superman,I would choose him.

However if it was normal Superman vs Flash, I would go Flash.

#18 Posted by Jezer (3013 posts) - - Show Bio

....Psychic fire?

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#19 Posted by ShiZZmAhh (505 posts) - - Show Bio

flash kills team 1 before anyone realizes whats going on.

#20 Posted by super_psycho (2792 posts) - - Show Bio

@Stronger said:

@super_psycho said:

@Stronger said:

@super_psycho said:

@Stronger said:

@super_psycho said:

@Stronger said:

@super_psycho said:

Team 2 stomps

It is definatelly not a stomp.

I can see team 2 win but not in a stomp for sure.

Nope.. Team 2 stomps

How?

Since they are bloodlusted so no one is going to hold back ..

Barry or wally would beat down supes with little effort or steal his speed..Martian manhunter is on par with superman when it comes to strength and speed plus he has other abilities..

Hal would get creamed here.

I dont think a bloodlusted Superman is so easy to defeat.Indeed Flash is very powerful but he is a bit overrated.

Martian Manhunter is maybe the most powerful here but he has one great weakness.Fire.

Hal can just think of fire and take him out.

Well I dont say team one wins,but team 2 doesnt stomp for sure.

Flash can still take down superman

Martian manhunter doesn't have that weakness anymore and martian is too fast for hal

He will be taken out before he can do anything

Team 2 stomps

Who told you Martian Manhunter isnt afraid of fire.Hals fire is psychic fire and that is the point.I dont think Manhunter moves faster than Hal thinks.

Superman holds back in all of his battles and he still wins most.If its a bloodlusted Superman,I would choose him.

However if it was normal Superman vs Flash, I would go Flash.

Bloodlust isn't going to help Superman here.. Flash can take them out before they can even blink..

That is if Hal can react before martian or flash blitz him..

#21 Posted by Saren (25216 posts) - - Show Bio

Team 2 stomps.

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#22 Posted by Killemall (18169 posts) - - Show Bio

Flash SOLO!!

#23 Posted by emperorznb (1673 posts) - - Show Bio

Team two wins but it might not be a curbstomp... maybe just a plain ol' stomp :7

#24 Posted by Stronger (4948 posts) - - Show Bio

@super_psycho: Do you think that Superman is gonna just wait like an idiot and say to Flash :"Hey man,hit me,I am right in front of you"

As for the Martian and Hal,I think it depends on the circustances.

#25 Posted by Saren (25216 posts) - - Show Bio

@Stronger said:

@super_psycho: Do you think that Superman is gonna just wait like an idiot and say to Flash :"Hey man,hit me,I am right in front of you"

As for the Martian and Hal,I think it depends on the circustances.

It doesn't matter what he says or does, a bloodlusted Flash beats him to death.

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#26 Posted by Stronger (4948 posts) - - Show Bio

I think Flash is a bit overrated.

#27 Posted by super_psycho (2792 posts) - - Show Bio

@Stronger said:

@super_psycho: Do you think that Superman is gonna just wait like an idiot and say to Flash :"Hey man,hit me,I am right in front of you"

As for the Martian and Hal,I think it depends on the circustances.

Flash wont give him time to say that stupid line..

#28 Posted by chriconz123 (582 posts) - - Show Bio

What would stop Flash from turning Supes and Hal into statues via Speed Steal?

#29 Posted by termiteone4ever (6985 posts) - - Show Bio

@Killemall said:

Flash SOLO!!

This fight could go either way .

I know Flash has some Power or prediction

Superman also has the super senses and never showed the possibility that it was at his limits when talking to flash. Even when Flash was Fighting Zoom Superman man could see them . So this fight Does goes to Team 2 but not as easy as everyone thing Superman Blood Lust isnt no joke either

#30 Posted by Killemall (18169 posts) - - Show Bio

@termiteone4ever said:

@Killemall said:

Flash SOLO!!

This fight could go either way .

I know Flash has some Power or prediction

Superman also has the super senses and never showed the possibility that it was at his limits when talking to flash. Even when Flash was Fighting Zoom Superman man could see them . So this fight Does goes to Team 2 but not as easy as everyone thing Superman Blood Lust isnt no joke either

Flash has show better reaction time than superman, therefore all flash needs to do is one shot the green lantern, and no GL apart from Kyle havent shown even a micro-second reaction time where as flash has shown pico-second reaction time, This means before GL blink flash will be able to 1000 (micro to nano) x 1000 (nano to pico) = 1,000,000 punches before GL knew. As we all 1 IMP would be enough to KO GL then all flash need to do is steal superman's speed before he can fly high enough and KO him with few unrestrained punches.

#31 Posted by termiteone4ever (6985 posts) - - Show Bio

@Killemall said:

@termiteone4ever said:

@Killemall said:

Flash SOLO!!

This fight could go either way .

I know Flash has some Power or prediction

Superman also has the super senses and never showed the possibility that it was at his limits when talking to flash. Even when Flash was Fighting Zoom Superman man could see them . So this fight Does goes to Team 2 but not as easy as everyone thing Superman Blood Lust isnt no joke either

Flash has show better reaction time than superman, therefore all flash needs to do is one shot the green lantern, and no GL apart from Kyle havent shown even a micro-second reaction time where as flash has shown pico-second reaction time, This means before GL blink flash will be able to 1000 (micro to nano) x 1000 (nano to pico) = 1,000,000 punches before GL knew. As we all 1 IMP would be enough to KO GL then all flash need to do is steal superman's speed before he can fly high enough and KO him with few unrestrained punches.

Sad to say as fast as Flash Is the Gls are No joke when it comes to speed john Stewart proved this . I am not sure if you saw the scan where flash couldnt stop and Gl caught him. The GL speed isnt so bad. It wouldnt be as easy. Sad to say the speed steal is the key here again this is risky ever for the Flash against a smart superman with no Morals .

#32 Posted by venomoushatred1001 (12334 posts) - - Show Bio

Either one of team 2 could solo.

#33 Posted by dccomicsrule2011 (22860 posts) - - Show Bio

@Killemall said:

@termiteone4ever said:

@Killemall said:

Flash SOLO!!

This fight could go either way .

I know Flash has some Power or prediction

Superman also has the super senses and never showed the possibility that it was at his limits when talking to flash. Even when Flash was Fighting Zoom Superman man could see them . So this fight Does goes to Team 2 but not as easy as everyone thing Superman Blood Lust isnt no joke either

Flash has show better reaction time than superman, therefore all flash needs to do is one shot the green lantern, and no GL apart from Kyle havent shown even a micro-second reaction time where as flash has shown pico-second reaction time, This means before GL blink flash will be able to 1000 (micro to nano) x 1000 (nano to pico) = 1,000,000 punches before GL knew. As we all 1 IMP would be enough to KO GL then all flash need to do is steal superman's speed before he can fly high enough and KO him with few unrestrained punches.

Here Hal shows nanosecond reaction he was also able to keep up with a bloodlusted Thawne Zoom who he thought was Barry Allen I have scans for that to if you want to see them. Hal has nanosecond reaction. That being said Team two still wins.

#34 Posted by Video_Martian (5631 posts) - - Show Bio

Team 2 wins.

#35 Posted by Killemall (18169 posts) - - Show Bio

@dccomicsrule2011: Still being sceptical but all the scan actually says is "its mere nanoseconds before.." he doesn’t move doesn’t dodge anything nor does anything, how is that exactly a nanosecond reaction time??

Well that happens a lot in comics, Thanos was able to fight a warrior madness Thor , Thanos has no super speed and Thor has microsecond reaction time (as ppl claim), Hulk has fought and beaten Hyperion, who most definitely is super-duper fast, and was blood lusted (as always coz he’s a ruthless villain).Doesnt mean hulk has nano-second reaction time.

#36 Posted by dccomicsrule2011 (22860 posts) - - Show Bio

@Killemall said:

@dccomicsrule2011: Still being sceptical but all the scan actually says is "its mere nanoseconds before.." he doesn’t move doesn’t dodge anything nor does anything, how is that exactly a nanosecond reaction time??

Well that happens a lot in comics, Thanos was able to fight a warrior madness Thor , Thanos has no super speed and Thor has microsecond reaction time (as ppl claim), Hulk has fought and beaten Hyperion, who most definitely is super-duper fast, and was blood lusted (as always coz he’s a ruthless villain).Doesnt mean hulk has nano-second reaction time.

Because All Zoom has is speed he has nothing else if Hulk fought The flash and tagged him I would say he has speed all Zoom has is speed do you understand now? Hal was also able to see a ship moving in slow motion and Follow Barry around while barry was moving at fast speeds the only reason Barry got away was because he changed his close I have scans if you want those.

#37 Posted by Blacktimus (144 posts) - - Show Bio

Wasn't there a comic where Flash stopped holding back to keep up with Zoom's weird time speed, and everyone in the Justice League were merely statues to him at that point? I believe he said something about even Superman not being able to help him against Zoom, and that he was in that fight against him alone.

#38 Posted by HughJass (375 posts) - - Show Bio

@Blacktimus said:

Wasn't there a comic where Flash stopped holding back to keep up with Zoom's weird time speed, and everyone in the Justice League were merely statues to him at that point? I believe he said something about even Superman not being able to help him against Zoom, and that he was in that fight against him alone.

He had to absorb the entire speed force from other speedters before he could keep up with Zoom.

#39 Posted by Blacktimus (144 posts) - - Show Bio

@HughJass: Would there be anything keeping him from doing that while bloodlusted? I know bloodlusted is fighting to kill by any means, but I don't know if it has some underlying tone, like not being able to think clearly or something.

#40 Posted by HughJass (375 posts) - - Show Bio

@Blacktimus said:

@HughJass: Would there be anything keeping him from doing that while bloodlusted? I know bloodlusted is fighting to kill by any means, but I don't know if it has some underlying tone, like not being able to think clearly or something.

It's been a while since I've read the comic, but IIRC the other speedsters had to voluntarily give him their speed force.

#41 Posted by King Saturn (223722 posts) - - Show Bio
The Flash and Martian Manhunter for the win here... it would be a good battle though. 
#42 Posted by Killemall (18169 posts) - - Show Bio

@dccomicsrule2011 said:

@Killemall said:

Because All Zoom has is speed he has nothing else if Hulk fought The flash and tagged him I would say he has speed all Zoom has is speed do you understand now? Hal was also able to see a ship moving in slow motion and Follow Barry around while barry was moving at fast speeds the only reason Barry got away was because he changed his close I have scans if you want those.

  1. Actually no , not really. All Quicksilver has is speed as well and hulk has tagged quick silver. Ice man has flash frozen a running quicksilver still no one would resonably believe either of them have such kind of speed.
  2. Being able to see a ship in slow motion =/= having nano second reaction time.
  3. Please i would like to see additional scan, i am a little accpeting it by the looks of this scan however if what you have said is true, and Hal did change the course of the ship then indeed it proves that he has nano-second reaction time and i would stand corrected.
#43 Edited by chiq (1899 posts) - - Show Bio

Team 2 cuz of that overpowered sob flash...lol the speed force needs to nerfed just to make it a little more believable that villains can actually move and perform actions when the flash is around. add MM's TP and its overkill for me...

#44 Posted by Blacklightning13 (916 posts) - - Show Bio

Team 1 but barely. Even though i would definitely prefer team 2 to win.

This is because both GL and Superman have telepathy defenses so MM mind powers wouldn't work. Also MM turning invisible wouldn't work very well because both supes and GL have ways of finding him. Also they could just melt everything so it gets super hot.

#45 Posted by eatmore_payless (2210 posts) - - Show Bio

team 1 not a stomp but a Solid Win
 
Superman got some reaction time that could Par with Flashes, and no martian manhunter's strength is not on par with supes, maybe it is par if supes is ultimately holding back, and Hal could change the molecular compound of his constructs, so that team 2 won't be able to phase on it. It was shown that flash can't vibrate his way to a unparalleled molecular compound of a certain object. Plus superman is always holding back, but if he is bloodlusted he could release a heat vision that could could totally desintigrate team 2. and for Psychic attacks, Hal could create a bubble on both of there heads to protect their brains against mind raping.

#46 Edited by dccomicsrule2011 (22860 posts) - - Show Bio

@Killemall said:

@dccomicsrule2011 said:

@Killemall said:

Because All Zoom has is speed he has nothing else if Hulk fought The flash and tagged him I would say he has speed all Zoom has is speed do you understand now? Hal was also able to see a ship moving in slow motion and Follow Barry around while barry was moving at fast speeds the only reason Barry got away was because he changed his close I have scans if you want those.

  1. Actually no , not really. All Quicksilver has is speed as well and hulk has tagged quick silver. Ice man has flash frozen a running quicksilver still no one would resonably believe either of them have such kind of speed.
  2. Being able to see a ship in slow motion =/= having nano second reaction time.
  3. Please i would like to see additional scan, i am a little accpeting it by the looks of this scan however if what you have said is true, and Hal did change the course of the ship then indeed it proves that he has nano-second reaction time and i would stand corrected.
  1. But if all they have is speed they have no other power to go for For example All Flash has is speed where Supes has strength,durability heat vision super breath etc if some one tags Supes who only has many powers and might not be using it at the time but if some one has only speed like the Flash he is using it because that is all he has. In the scan where Zoom was fighting Hal and Hal was holding back Zoom was going all out he was using the rouges weapons to beat Hal so he had to be going all out why else would he use weapons to give him the edge in the fight.

The scans are backwards sorry about there The flash tries to shake Hal to no avail Proving Hal could keep up with him Barry stated he was moving FTL and Barry still could not shake him proving FTL reaction speed.

The other Supes tries to catch Barry to no avail While Hal captures him showing great reaction/perception.

The ship scan I have that also but My computer is not allowing me the upload them with these scans this should prove Hal has nanosecond reaction. *side note PC feats count for Hal as Young Gunna explained.*

#47 Posted by carver9 (123 posts) - - Show Bio

Martian Manhunter is no longer weak to fire...the guy recently was in the heart of the sun. What more proof do you need?

#48 Posted by Delta1938 (480 posts) - - Show Bio

@termiteone4ever said:

Sad to say as fast as Flash Is the Gls are No joke when it comes to speed john Stewart proved this . I am not sure if you saw the scan where flash couldnt stop and Gl caught him. The GL speed isnt so bad. It wouldnt be as easy. Sad to say the speed steal is the key here again this is risky ever for the Flash against a smart superman with no Morals .

Where was this? The only time I've heard of a GL catching a Flash was possibly Pre-CRISIS(looked that way from the art style, team line-up and quality of ink and paper) and it was simply Flash's head was turned away when he ran right into a GL construct made to catch him.

#49 Posted by Delta1938 (480 posts) - - Show Bio

@eatmore_payless: Finally someone else in this thread who knows Superman's a great deal stronger than Martian Manhunter.

@dccomicsrule2011: I should've finished reading the thread before I questioned termiteone, but all those scans prove is in one instance, Hal was able to catch Flash in a "booby trap" when Flash was looking the other way, and the other was Hal could keep-up with Flash traveling at unspecified speeds via flight. He never actually catches Barry or hits him.

#50 Posted by Killemall (18169 posts) - - Show Bio

@dccomicsrule2011 said:

@Killemall said:

  1. But if all they have is speed they have no other power to go for For example All Flash has is speed where Supes has strength,durability heat vision super breath etc if some one tags Supes who only has many powers and might not be using it at the time but if some one has only speed like the Flash he is using it because that is all he has. In the scan where Zoom was fighting Hal and Hal was holding back Zoom was going all out he was using the rouges weapons to beat Hal so he had to be going all out why else would he use weapons to give him the edge in the fight.

The scans are backwards sorry about there The flash tries to shake Hal to no avail Proving Hal could keep up with him Barry stated he was moving FTL and Barry still could not shake him proving FTL reaction speed.

The other Supes tries to catch Barry to no avail While Hal captures him showing great reaction/perception.

The ship scan I have that also but My computer is not allowing me the upload them with these scans this should prove Hal has nanosecond reaction. *side note PC feats count for Hal as Young Gunna explained.*

Still a little, sceptical and the reason would be:

@Delta1938 said:

@eatmore_payless: Finally someone else in this thread who knows Superman's a great deal stronger than Martian Manhunter.

@dccomicsrule2011: I should've finished reading the thread before I questioned termiteone, but all those scans prove is in one instance, Hal was able to catch Flash in a "booby trap" when Flash was looking the other way, and the other was Hal could keep-up with Flash traveling at unspecified speeds via flight. He never actually catches Barry or hits him.

Sorry but Young Gunna is the same guy who argued Darkseid has Genesis Box to win a battle despite the fact that I was created by Orion on the alternate future and Darkseid never got his hands on him. So no he is not the most credible source here, no disrespect intended.