It comes down to Flash vs Surfer, as far as who would win. One could argue that Surfer can open a black hole inside of Barry and erase him from existence. But the same argument could be made that Flash uses the Speed Force and dismisses the Surfer.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but hasn't the Surfer time traveled before? Also, doesn't he have some sort of matter manipulation , in that Flash could "vibrate" through Surfer, but Surfer could technically "bend" around him or something to make himself not tangible.
Morals off Supes beats Thor IMO. Supes with morals proves that eventually he'd take Thor. Without morals, and sundipped, it's too much.
Superman is always constantly being compared to Silver Surfer in terms of power levels; the fact is that Silver Silver is too much for both.
While Barry Allen probably has a better reaction time than Silver Surfer, I believe Silver Surfer maybe be faster or at least rivalling Barry Allen. Besides all he has to do to Superman is either teleport him to a red sun, drain his yellow sun energy, or just vaporize his molecules or water in his body. Silver Surfers movepool is just to big.
Thor could damage Superman with mjnoir.
Barry Allen won't be able to hurt Silver Surfer really at all as Silver Surfers skin is comprised of an indestructible cosmic material.
Morals off Surfer is too much imo. Barry gets wrecked. Sundipped Supes will beat the breaks off of Thor until Surfer tags in and drains all of his energy/teleports him into a black hole/turns him into glass etc.
SS, look at my AV why does no one look at my AV during SS battles Yeah supes and barry allen aren't beating that (Wally west isn't either but he has a better chance)
Does no one understand how close the battlefield is to the Sun? Superman + Sundip + Being way closer to the Sun than usual = A boost > (or = to) warrior madness for Thor (imo). This is going to be Barry & Amped Supes vs Surfer (Both of which arguably have faster combat speed), I don't know if Surfer can take the win...
@theonetaichou: Is "good day" a taunt or your end of the argument?
Anyways I think morals off SS is too much for both of them.
...it's my closing salutation. I'm just saying have a good day, after all you did take some time off to read some of my thoughts written down. And I appreciate that.
SS, look at my AV why does no one look at my AV during SS battles Yeah supes and barry allen aren't beating that (Wally west isn't either but he has a better chance)
yeah...............team two takes this due to surfer
@comicnoob: This depends how Surfer fights. If Surfer try to engage Superman physically,Surfer will lose quite handily due to Superman amped to hell in this match.If Surfer uses his other powers,then he will take out Superman. Team 2 only wins because of Surfer
@reaverlation: I don't know, if Supes and Barry are blood lusted and out of character, That means they'll likely go the 'Wally stomps everyone method' (Speed up until Surfer is a statue, then IMP spam). To me (with these conditions) I see this battle as Surfer & Thor vs slower Wally who is super strong + flight & slightly slower wally. Blood lusted and out of character (Correct me if i'm wrong) means they'll use the quickest method to get rid of the opponent. For Surfer it's summoning black hole (I guess) and for Team 1 it's 'Wally stomps everyone method', so the winner is whoever can do it first (which is team 1).
@reaverlation: Oh, I thought Barry could. Still, Surfer is obviously not going to be fighting smart (he is blood lusted and out of character after all). Like I said in my previous post, I believe when a character is blood lusted and out of character, they immediately use the quickest method to get rid of the enemy. My point was the victor would be who can execute this method first, and I believe Supes can IMP spam/blitz Surfer+Thor before Surfer can use his. Although you could argue Supes would be distracted with Thor for a bit and then Surfer kills both of them (Which is why I'm unsure of who would win).
If Surfer fights smart using his abundance of powers,then he wins it for Team 2.If he engages Team 1 physically,then Team 1 wins.That's why I'm not saying that this is a stomp but going with Team 2 in that Surfer will play smart
@sirneko: I know and it doesn't matter. Barry hasn't done it so he won't/can't do it here.
Your statement lacks all kind of logic, just because he hasn't done it, he can't do it? If he can go FTL he can do it, doesn't matter if he has done it or not. Every character who can go FTL can do it.
That would be like saying Barry Allen can't mow the lawn since he hasn't done it.
Well being this close to the sun means superman could just take a dip when things get tough, i see Team one blitzing both fighters 2v1, pulling out the win. Unless of course, Barry can't survive on Mercury.
@sirneko: I know and it doesn't matter. Barry hasn't done it so he won't/can't do it here.
Your statement lacks all kind of logic, just because he hasn't done it, he can't do it? If he can go FTL he can do it, doesn't matter if he has done it or not. Every character who can go FTL can do it.
That would be like saying Barry Allen can't mow the lawn since he hasn't done it.
no this means that there is no scan showing him using the IMP so there for we cannot give him that power...
@sirneko: I know and it doesn't matter. Barry hasn't done it so he won't/can't do it here.
Your statement lacks all kind of logic, just because he hasn't done it, he can't do it? If he can go FTL he can do it, doesn't matter if he has done it or not. Every character who can go FTL can do it.
That would be like saying Barry Allen can't mow the lawn since he hasn't done it.
no this means that there is no scan showing him using the IMP so there for we cannot give him that power...
By that logic there isn't a scan where Supes in the New 52 ever lifted a random speed mart in Canada,there for we cannot give him that power.
@sirneko: I know and it doesn't matter. Barry hasn't done it so he won't/can't do it here.
Your statement lacks all kind of logic, just because he hasn't done it, he can't do it? If he can go FTL he can do it, doesn't matter if he has done it or not. Every character who can go FTL can do it.
That would be like saying Barry Allen can't mow the lawn since he hasn't done it.
no this means that there is no scan showing him using the IMP so there for we cannot give him that power...
It's not an effing power, that is what I am getting at. IMP isn't a super power, it's physics, IMP is created when somebody travels FTL before hitting or vibrates his molecules FTL and hits.
If Barry can go FTL, he can IMP, if SS can go FTL he can IMP.
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