Superman and Wonder Woman vs Magneto and Juggernaut no BFR

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#1  Edited By dawsey28

Superman and Wonder Woman vs Magneto and Juggernaut no BFR

Superman (Kal-El) and Wonder Woman (Diana) vs Magneto and Juggernaut

BFR notallowed.

Location: Fight takes place in an abandoned city unfamiliar to both teams.

Equipment: Each team gets standard equipment for the fight. (Juggernaut has the "impregnable shield." Wonder Woman has tiara, bracers, and lasso. Magneto has his helmet.)

Versions: Juggernaut is not Kuurth, Worthy Juggernaut, or cosmic Juggernaut. He is simply Cain Marko as Juggernaut.

Rules: Teams start the fight at opposite sides of the city. Magneto starts the fight with his shields up.

Each team fights within character.

No backup.

Both teams knows the fight will happen.

No prep.

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#2  Edited By Thor's hammmer

is it Classic Juggernaut? or at the level of power he had just before fear itself?

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#3  Edited By cattlebattle

I don't think they can beat Juggernaut

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#4  Edited By alcoholbob

I guess they can pick up Juggernaut and play baseball with each other until he verbally submits.

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#5  Edited By gotham244

 Superman superspeeds over them and squishes them the end
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#6  Edited By ssejllenrad
@gotham244 said:
 Superman superspeeds over them and squishes them the end
Squish juggs? Good luck with that!
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#7  Edited By dawsey28

The one that has the impregnable shield. I think he is considered Classic Juggernaut.

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#8  Edited By ssejllenrad

DC team via majority. Meaning Supes and Wonder Woman survives due to Juggs having no capability of beating them, Cain survives cause the DC team can't beat him, mags is dead.

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#9  Edited By cattlebattle
@ssejllenrad said:
DC team via majority. Meaning Supes and Wonder Woman survives due to Juggs having no capability of beating them, Cain survives cause the DC team can't beat him, mags is dead.
how is it he can't defeat them?? not starting anything, just asking
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#10  Edited By Xtremeperson

Might take a while, Magneto goes down fast but Juggernaut can stay for a bit. Don't see how he can beat both WW and Superman though.

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#11  Edited By ssejllenrad
@cattlebattle: There's no way for him to hit them. They're too fast for him and can fly.
 
@Xtremeperson said:

Might take a while, Magneto goes down fast but Juggernaut can stay for a bit. Don't see how he can beat both WW and Superman though.

Goes the other way round as well... :D
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Team 2 stomps. They have no way of beating Juggs and Mags could always drain Supes. Plus Supes and WW have been nerfed significantly, which further decreases their odds.
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#13  Edited By BMEZY

there will be no squishing of any kind, superman in character will not blitz or try to kill them, same for WW.. just putting it out there

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#14  Edited By OmegaDynasty

@BMEZY said:

there will be no squishing of any kind, superman in character will not blitz or try to kill them, same for WW.. just putting it out there

True, plus there is also a lot of magical..metal things on Diana.

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#15  Edited By the_stegman  Moderator

morals on, i'm leaning towards team 2 
 
morals off and...well i just wouldn't want to see Wonder woman and Superman with no morals...

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#16  Edited By OmegaDynasty

@The Stegman said:

morals on, i'm leaning towards team 2 morals off and...well i just wouldn't want to see Wonder woman and Superman with no morals...

Well I see Magneto using Wonder Woman's weapons against Sueprman, seeing how in not immune to magic.

Just think Magneto controlling that.

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#17  Edited By Pokeysteve

Can Magneto control Thor's or BRB's Hammers?

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#18  Edited By RainEffect

What exactly can Magneto do here? 
 
Use Juggs as a human cannonball?

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#19  Edited By XR

team 1 superman and wonder woman with super speed and super strength.
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#20  Edited By cattlebattle
@RainEffect said:
What exactly can Magneto do here?   Use Juggs as a human cannonball?
that would be pretty funny.....and cool
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#21  Edited By slick23

@cattlebattle said:

@RainEffect said:
What exactly can Magneto do here? Use Juggs as a human cannonball?
that would be pretty funny.....and cool

I'd buy that comic..they'd call it "THE SUPER ULTIMATE MAGNETO JUGS CANNONBALL..." Orsomething like that.

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#22  Edited By Voodoom

Here is the way I see it.   
 
The issue is not only are we talking Classic Jugs, WW, Supes, and Magneto. 
 
Not matter what I beleive Magneto shouldn't find any iron in Supes blood (my take on this is due to an Exile Comic where Magneto tries this on Superion). 
 
Magneto should be able to lock down Wonder Woman though with her lasso and Bracelets. 
 
Jugs vs Superman is a waste of time if we are talking Classics here.  They can't hurt each other. 
 
If Supes takes out Magneto I beleive that Superman and Wonder Woman would find some way to deal with Juggs.   
 
I either call it DC Win or a very boring draw. 

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#23  Edited By eatmore_payless

what version of superman are we talking about?

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#24  Edited By HellionVulcan

In the end Juggernaut would use his shield to catch one of them & finish them off magneto dies after awhile but no one on team 1 defeats juggernaut .

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@OmegaDynasty said:

@The Stegman said:

morals on, i'm leaning towards team 2 morals off and...well i just wouldn't want to see Wonder woman and Superman with no morals...

Well I see Magneto using Wonder Woman's weapons against Sueprman, seeing how in not immune to magic.

Just think Magneto controlling that.

You missed the part when Superman is grabbing his neck and gasping for air lol.
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#27  Edited By Saren

Magneto will eventually die, but I don't see how anyone can win between Supes & Diana vs Juggs. Marko might win if he can't get exhausted.

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#28  Edited By nickthedevil

No. This one is magneto's and juggernauts. in a city?

Magneto can control portions of the earths gravitational fields, andhas control over the entire landscape, and all the magical metal wonder woman brought with her.

and juggernaut has the cyttorak power.

Even though its obvious who will win this, i would still pay to watch this battle. mostly to see supermans face as he realizes he's fought through 70 years of comics just to die here.

I never liked superman.

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#29  Edited By tron_bonne

Magneto could actually augment his physical strength magnetically to match these guys. It's was canon that he did this when he fought Hercules, Thor, Colossus and other super strengthened super heroes and also in a non-canon arc, he used the same strength augmentation to fight against Superman and later Thor-El. Back to canon, he's lifted 1,000,000,000 tons of island so he should be most than capable to go physical if he really needs to. 

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#30  Edited By Dex_Starr

@tron_bonne said:

Magneto could actually augment his physical strength magnetically to match these guys. It's was canon that he did this when he fought Hercules, Thor, Colossus and other super strengthened super heroes and also in a non-canon arc, he used the same strength augmentation to fight against Superman and later Thor-El. Back to canon, he's lifted 1,000,000,000 tons of island so he should be most than capable to go physical if he really needs to.

In other words, he never did this canonically. Good to know.

Magneto dies, but since this team can't harm Juggernaut and Juggernaut can't land any hits on them it's ultimately a stalemate.

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My Juggernaut 101 is really rusty.

Which one was it that could use magic?

If he can in this scenario, Team Marvel wins, otherwise it's a stalemate.

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#32  Edited By NeonNemesis

I'm looking at WW and thinking how Mags will use her as a bullet on Superman seeing on how she has metal on her arms, waist, chest and head, this is almost a 3 on 1.
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#33  Edited By the_stegman  Moderator
@OmegaDynasty: yeah, that will probably happen if morals were on, which is why i gave it to team 2, but morals off, magneto gets speed blitzed by superman, and then they double team Jugs 
 
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#34  Edited By Postacrat

Superman does not need help with Juggernaut, I wish people would stop overrating this guy's power by mentioning things he has either never done but can do or can do but doesn't do. Most of the unlimited potential Juggs is capable of and that people bring up is mostly in comics hear say, which people only bring up for battles such as these. I don't see Juggernaut do things that are that powerful more than I see someone talk about it, even in comic books they have characters make these statements about his powers yet you rarely see it out side of Super strength and invulnerability. If the Hulk can redirect Juggernauts Unstoppable force to defeat him then Superman could easily do it. Juggernaut's official powerset in the books, is no where near the fan speculation of it. He is extremely powerful and probably stronger than the hulk or Thor, yet he has less impressive feats than either of them. Juggernaut has never beaten anybody in the MU that is on the same power level as Wonderwoman or Superman and he has been stopped (or delayed or taken out of a fight) by people who are weaker than both of them. Someone with sufficient physical strength or magical stregnth can beat Juggernaut, and Supes is more than capable of doing it by himself. Juggernaut may be a threat in the Marvel Universe, but in a Universe like DC he is nothing special, and there are more than enough hero's in the DC universe powerful enough put him down. There is no DC power levels in marvel characters unless the character is cosmic or divine, while DC has tons of Marvel power levels on Earth alone. Tell you what when I stop seeing the juggernaut struggle to overcome heroes like Hulk whom it has been noted officially as much weaker then Supes then I'll bite his Hype. Till then Juggernaut is not beating Superman. I'm not even going to get into the whole magneto thing, he can barely beat the X-men. Superman and Wonder Woman, STOMP!

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#35  Edited By Outside_85

Team one, they are too fast. Mag will get dropped before he can do anything about/with Wonder Woman. Juggs will give a good fight but I don't see him doing it, if anything Wonder Woman can just tie him up using her unbreakable lasso.

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Team two is winning. No matter how fast they are, they can not escape magnetism. It's everywhere. And with no BFR means you just sentenced team one to death because Superman and Wonder Woman are vulnerable to exertion. 

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#37  Edited By dawsey28

Not sure how long it will take Superman or Wonder Woman to break through Magneto's shields, but Magneto starts the fight with his shields up.

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#38  Edited By thanobomb1124

IDK who wins.

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#39  Edited By Joygirl

Juggybug has magic. He has some... rather impressive magic. He just prefers to squish things. With no BFR he will eventually have the time to realize he is unable to Juggysmash Supes and Wondy, and he'll have to improvise. Maybe use his magic to suck them back into his forcefield and hold them like he held Mjolnir, then bearhug them until they are eventually smushed. Team Marvel wins, Juggz has too much going for him when you can't BFR him.

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#40  Edited By Lvenger

Well let's see. Magneto's force fields have stood up to some pretty destructive things like nuclear missiles, attacks from multiple superheroes at once, attacks from Thor and I think even Galactus. However, Superman or WW's speed would mean that the forcefield would be down in seconds and even with the ability to enhance his strength, durability and stamina, he would go down pretty quickly compared to the strength level of Superman or Wonder Woman. Now on the other hand, Juggernaut is a problem. He's pretty much as invulnerable as Superman and incredibly strong to boot. However, Cain won't be able to land a hit on Supes or WW due to the fact they can fly and are a lot faster than him. So basically it's a real stalemate. Superman and Wonder Woman will probably think of some way to beat Juggy but not by physical force.

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#41  Edited By alcoholbob

Only Superman is stupid enough to get into a slugging match with Juggs, it will take a hell of a long time, like Doomsday vs Supes...except won't end well for Supes.

Like the other guy said, WW might tie up Juggs and leave him there lol.

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#42  Edited By Chibio

Can someone prove me that Superman / Wonder Woman would not be able to simply bullrush through Magnetos shields and knock him out?

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#43  Edited By jimroote99

team 2 wins. the merging of juggs and magnetos force fields makes them untouchable, while magneto disrupts the blood flow in their brains and kills them both

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Juggernaut steals their speed!

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#45  Edited By Floopay

@7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning said:

Juggernaut steals their speed!

Given that and Mags starts with his shields up, this should go to Team 2.

Thanks for reading,

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#46  Edited By Evil-Incarnate

Superman/Wonder Woman rush mags and Wonder Woman ties up Juggs the end.

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#47  Edited By catofellow

@Chibio said:

Can someone prove me that Superman / Wonder Woman would not be able to simply bullrush through Magnetos shields and knock him out?

They wouldn't have to. Light passes through Magneto's shields. Superman's heat vision could incinerate Magneto. The question I have is what could Juggernaut do to stop WW from lassoing him and throwing him into the sun. They could just work with his momentum.

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#48  Edited By jeanroygrant

Juggernaut can't lose here...

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Juggernaut solos.

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#50  Edited By Experio

Stalemate.