"ahhhhh a Gladz vs. Supes fight....cracks his neck and breaks out the scans... before i start which supes is this? "
Hey Now there is more than just Superman and Gladiator here... and this is the Post Crisis Superman "
yeah but it always ends up that way... anyway Mon-El is as strong as if not stronger than super woman and gladiator is based on pre crisis supes so he can over power this supes so yeah team two takes it
"ahhhhh a Gladz vs. Supes fight....cracks his neck and breaks out the scans... before i start which supes is this? "
Hey Now there is more than just Superman and Gladiator here... and this is the Post Crisis Superman "
yeah but it always ends up that way... anyway Mon-El is as strong as if not stronger than super woman and gladiator is based on pre crisis supes so he can over power this supes so yeah team two takes it "
First of all I was using the Mon El of the Post Crisis...
then wonder woman owns him with her gauntlets and gladz is out numbered i dont think he can defeat both of them unless his heat vision can pierce there skin and im not too sure that it can...
"then wonder woman owns him with her gauntlets and gladz is out numbered i dont think he can defeat both of them unless his heat vision can pierce there skin and im not too sure that it can... "
Why do you say Wonder Woman owns Post Crisis Mon El ? Post Crisis Mon El is physically near Superman just like Wonder Woman is... its not a curbstomp at all here
"then wonder woman owns him with her gauntlets and gladz is out numbered i dont think he can defeat both of them unless his heat vision can pierce there skin and im not too sure that it can... "
Why do you say Wonder Woman owns Post Crisis Mon El ? Post Crisis Mon El is physically near Superman just like Wonder Woman is... its not a curbstomp at all here"
but with her power gauntlets she is above supes strength wise which makes her more physically stronger than Mon-El its not a curbstomp but she isn't over exerting herself either
"then wonder woman owns him with her gauntlets and gladz is out numbered i dont think he can defeat both of them unless his heat vision can pierce there skin and im not too sure that it can... "
Why do you say Wonder Woman owns Post Crisis Mon El ? Post Crisis Mon El is physically near Superman just like Wonder Woman is... its not a curbstomp at all here"
but with her power gauntlets she is above supes strength wise which makes her more physically stronger than Mon-El its not a curbstomp but she isn't over exerting herself either "
Really ? So she will just beat someone with Kryptonian level speed and strength to a pulp huh with relative ease because of her Gauntlets ? She may win here... but I dont see her just running through Mon El... not when Wonder Woman caught hell fighting a Green Lantern the last time I checked her out
"then wonder woman owns him with her gauntlets and gladz is out numbered i dont think he can defeat both of them unless his heat vision can pierce there skin and im not too sure that it can... "
Why do you say Wonder Woman owns Post Crisis Mon El ? Post Crisis Mon El is physically near Superman just like Wonder Woman is... its not a curbstomp at all here"
but with her power gauntlets she is above supes strength wise which makes her more physically stronger than Mon-El its not a curbstomp but she isn't over exerting herself either "
Really ? So she will just beat someone with Kryptonian level speed and strength to a pulp huh with relative ease because of her Gauntlets ? She may win here... but I dont see her just running through Mon El... not when Wonder Woman caught hell fighting a Green Lantern the last time I checked her out"
i dont see speed being a huge factor with a whole bunch of heavyweights plus they are all in the same range of speed so i believe it simply comes down to who is just more powerful, now if i was to switch it up and pit gladz against her that would be a tougher fight for them both, but gladz is maybe a little bit stronger and has the potential to come out on top, between Superman and Mon-El, Mon-El is not as strong as Superman, he never was, so i dont see what would change here
"then wonder woman owns him with her gauntlets and gladz is out numbered i dont think he can defeat both of them unless his heat vision can pierce there skin and im not too sure that it can... "
Why do you say Wonder Woman owns Post Crisis Mon El ? Post Crisis Mon El is physically near Superman just like Wonder Woman is... its not a curbstomp at all here"
but with her power gauntlets she is above supes strength wise which makes her more physically stronger than Mon-El its not a curbstomp but she isn't over exerting herself either "
Really ? So she will just beat someone with Kryptonian level speed and strength to a pulp huh with relative ease because of her Gauntlets ? She may win here... but I dont see her just running through Mon El... not when Wonder Woman caught hell fighting a Green Lantern the last time I checked her out"
i dont see speed being a huge factor with a whole bunch of heavyweights plus they are all in the same range of speed so i believe it simply comes down to who is just more powerful, now if i was to switch it up and pit gladz against her that would be a tougher fight for them both, but gladz is maybe a little bit stronger and has the potential to come out on top, between Superman and Mon-El, Mon-El is not as strong as Superman, he never was, so i dont see what would change here "
I dont know about them being in the same range of speed... but I move on. First of All... who said that Superman had to fight Mon El ? What if Superman faces up with Gladiator and Mon El takes on Wonder Woman ? How do you figure the fight would go then ?
it depends then on who beats who first...gladz should be able to take superman down and idk know who the winner would be between Mon-El and Wonder Woman, Mon-El is faster but not so fast that he can over whelm her, and her combination of different equipment (lasso, gauntlets etc.) will always add a new element to the fight that Mon-El will either have to adapt too so idk it depends on how fast gladaiator beats superman...
other way around light. maybe gladiator flies faster in deep space, but on earth superman's speed feats are much faster, especially during fights. superman's got better strength feats too, even after he was depowered. in fact his strength has been creeping higher and higher since his crisis depowering.
"other way around light. maybe gladiator flies faster in deep space, but on earth superman's speed feats are much faster, especially during fights. superman's got better strength feats too, even after he was depowered. in fact his strength has been creeping higher and higher since his crisis depowering."
doesnt superman still move under the speed of light though
"other way around light. maybe gladiator flies faster in deep space, but on earth superman's speed feats are much faster, especially during fights. superman's got better strength feats too, even after he was depowered. in fact his strength has been creeping higher and higher since his crisis depowering."
doesnt superman still move under the speed of light though "
there are scans showing him move several times faster than light speed. but neither of them fight at anything over light speed. gladiator only goes faster than light speed when he's flying in deep space and he's almost never shown fighting at super speeds. but we've seen superman fighting at super speeds. if you were talking about a race from one side of the galaxy to another i'd pick gladiator but the quickest one in a fight is superman.
"other way around light. maybe gladiator flies faster in deep space, but on earth superman's speed feats are much faster, especially during fights. superman's got better strength feats too, even after he was depowered. in fact his strength has been creeping higher and higher since his crisis depowering."
doesnt superman still move under the speed of light though "
there are scans showing him move several times faster than light speed. but neither of them fight at anything over light speed. gladiator only goes faster than light speed when he's flying in deep space and he's almost never shown fighting at super speeds. but we've seen superman fighting at super speeds. if you were talking about a race from one side of the galaxy to another i'd pick gladiator but the quickest one in a fight is superman."
gladiator has been seen using super speed in a fight... ex is the time he fought the fantastic four
King Saturn said:
"What is Gladiator actual strength level ? That is something that is so unclear"
it is as strong as he believes he is, his confidence in himself is what determines how powerful he is and it allows him to do things that are scientifically impossible, like lifting the baxter building
"other way around light. maybe gladiator flies faster in deep space, but on earth superman's speed feats are much faster, especially during fights. superman's got better strength feats too, even after he was depowered. in fact his strength has been creeping higher and higher since his crisis depowering."
doesnt superman still move under the speed of light though "
there are scans showing him move several times faster than light speed. but neither of them fight at anything over light speed. gladiator only goes faster than light speed when he's flying in deep space and he's almost never shown fighting at super speeds. but we've seen superman fighting at super speeds. if you were talking about a race from one side of the galaxy to another i'd pick gladiator but the quickest one in a fight is superman."
gladiator has been seen using super speed in a fight... ex is the time he fought the fantastic four
King Saturn said:
"What is Gladiator actual strength level ? That is something that is so unclear"
it is as strong as he believes he is, his confidence in himself is what determines how powerful he is and it allows him to do things that are scientifically impossible, like lifting the baxter building
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super speed against the fantastic four? who are all ridiculously slow? thats not impressive. and then they say he's as strong as he wants to be but lifting a building is one of his strongest feats. post crisis superman was one of three people pulling a moon. that's much stronger than gladiator. saying someone is as strong as he wants to be is like saying somone has the power of a million exploding suns. it doesnt mean anything unless you have something to prove it.
Team 1 7/10..Mon-El and Wonder Woman are about equal in strength..His durability well exceeds Diana as well..Still going with Team 1 in a damn good fight..
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